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Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
September 16 2011 18:57 GMT
#161
On September 17 2011 01:10 perestain wrote:
its quite disgusting to see teams go so far and try to make the community believe that the tournament is actually selling the top spots in the finals, thereby damaging the image and integrity of a tournament permanently, just because they dont agree with an entrance fee and want to put pressure on the organisers.

this is horrible.



The teams are really being unrealistic and borderline disgusting.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
September 16 2011 20:08 GMT
#162
Stuff like this is so stupid that it doesn't even bother me because i just think that the organizers are going to get punished for their own stupidity very very soon.
sc2trainer
Profile Joined August 2011
63 Posts
September 16 2011 20:38 GMT
#163
On September 17 2011 03:57 Loodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 01:10 perestain wrote:
its quite disgusting to see teams go so far and try to make the community believe that the tournament is actually selling the top spots in the finals, thereby damaging the image and integrity of a tournament permanently, just because they dont agree with an entrance fee and want to put pressure on the organisers.

this is horrible.



The teams are really being unrealistic and borderline disgusting.


borderline disgusting because they disagree? do you like your right to free speech?
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:07:13
September 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#164
Well if there was a misunderstanding between the teams and the ESWC, it might be cleared quickly. ESWC committee dropped the attendance fee today. Now teams have no excuses anymore...
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
September 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#165
On September 17 2011 06:06 Koorb wrote:
Well if there was a misunderstanding between the teams and the ESWC, it might be cleared quickly. ESWC committee dropped the attendance fee today. Now teams have no excuses anymore...


no excuses except the $170,000 owed from the 08/09 season?
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
September 16 2011 21:12 GMT
#166
On September 17 2011 03:57 Loodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 01:10 perestain wrote:
its quite disgusting to see teams go so far and try to make the community believe that the tournament is actually selling the top spots in the finals, thereby damaging the image and integrity of a tournament permanently, just because they dont agree with an entrance fee and want to put pressure on the organisers.

this is horrible.



The teams are really being unrealistic and borderline disgusting.

I think this also has something to do with ESWC not paying the winning players. I remember some WC3 teams boycotted ESWC last year for that reason.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:18:01
September 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#167
well, MLG charges ppl and you can buy your way in so I don't see to much of a difference. Sure this is more extreme and I say I also disagree but why has no1 been complaining about MLG? $70 is pretty steep for $5000. which is a fraction of what the total entry money adds up to be.

overall tho, glad to see these teams boycotting :-)
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
September 16 2011 21:43 GMT
#168
On September 17 2011 06:17 PhiliBiRD wrote:
well, MLG charges ppl and you can buy your way in so I don't see to much of a difference. Sure this is more extreme and I say I also disagree but why has no1 been complaining about MLG? $70 is pretty steep for $5000. which is a fraction of what the total entry money adds up to be.

overall tho, glad to see these teams boycotting :-)

Because ESWC didn't pay price money in the past, went bankrupt, came back LAST YEAR and 1 year later wanted to charge people an entry fee.

MLG has been consistent on all fronts.

When you have a good history people will pay for your product.
When you don't people question it.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
September 16 2011 22:54 GMT
#169
On September 17 2011 06:10 taLbuk wrote:
no excuses except the $170,000 owed from the 08/09 season?


That is not the reason that the teams gave to explain their boycott. Indeed, unlike you, they are aware of the fact that the company which currently use the brand ESWC is not the company that went bankrupt a few years ago, leaving the prize unpaid.
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DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
September 16 2011 23:16 GMT
#170
On September 17 2011 07:54 Koorb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 06:10 taLbuk wrote:
no excuses except the $170,000 owed from the 08/09 season?


That is not the reason that the teams gave to explain their boycott. Indeed, unlike you, they are aware of the fact that the company which currently use the brand ESWC is not the company that went bankrupt a few years ago, leaving the prize unpaid.

It's part of the reason. They know ESWC is under new management, but the fact that they essentially are trying to buy the brand and everything good that comes with it (name recognition, fame, fond memories, etc), while ignoring the huge failure to pay out winners is something that cannot go unnoticed.

ESWC is under new management, and if that management wishes to continue to use ESWC's legacy as marketing, they should pay out those who were wronged. They're not legally obligated to, but it wouldn't hurt.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#171
I still think the entrance fee is a sham. It's more than double the next highest and its giving others a chance to compete*

*If they're willing to pay

Stupid. (And yes I read the whole thread and the link to the official explanation.)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
September 16 2011 23:18 GMT
#172
On September 17 2011 07:54 Koorb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 06:10 taLbuk wrote:
no excuses except the $170,000 owed from the 08/09 season?


That is not the reason that the teams gave to explain their boycott. Indeed, unlike you, they are aware of the fact that the company which currently use the brand ESWC is not the company that went bankrupt a few years ago, leaving the prize unpaid.


hah, i am fully aware that the company was bought, if you care, listen to the lo3 from a few weeks back where they talk about the whole thing, also they talked about eswc coming back on an episode about a year ago and about how they would have nothing to do with it until past dues were paid.
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
September 16 2011 23:26 GMT
#173
So Steve Jobs could buy the 1st place?
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MMello
Profile Joined October 2010
279 Posts
September 16 2011 23:31 GMT
#174
Yes!!! I can finally make it to the grand finals of big tourny!!!! I should just pay for first because im only diamond league but it's still nice to know that i can get a major unfair advantage by just spending some money... This seems like those Korean games that are Free to play but have a store where you spend real money to negate having to try or learn anything!.. This will be really cool for me but the only thing im not looking forward too is not being able to see some of the best players in the world.. Just diamond kids like me with money
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00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
September 17 2011 01:03 GMT
#175
Don't you guys read? You need to APPLY first in order to get the option to play for 200$. They will take into account your past accomplishments online and on LANs. And NO you diamond guy couldn't buy your way into this tournament even with 2000$
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 17 2011 01:08 GMT
#176
Still arguing over something that was returned to its normal status today. You guys are pathetic and quite frankly, you should read more before talking like know-it-all.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 17 2011 09:19 GMT
#177
On September 17 2011 05:38 sc2trainer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 03:57 Loodah wrote:
On September 17 2011 01:10 perestain wrote:
its quite disgusting to see teams go so far and try to make the community believe that the tournament is actually selling the top spots in the finals, thereby damaging the image and integrity of a tournament permanently, just because they dont agree with an entrance fee and want to put pressure on the organisers.

this is horrible.



The teams are really being unrealistic and borderline disgusting.


borderline disgusting because they disagree? do you like your right to free speech?

Wow, really? You're pulling that card?

It's borderline disgusting because they're manipulating what the community sees and are deliberately trying to paint the organizers as the bad guys when they're ultimately not doing anything wrong.

Free speech is one thing...trying to slander an organization is entirely different.
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Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
September 17 2011 12:54 GMT
#178
On September 17 2011 18:19 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:38 sc2trainer wrote:
On September 17 2011 03:57 Loodah wrote:
On September 17 2011 01:10 perestain wrote:
its quite disgusting to see teams go so far and try to make the community believe that the tournament is actually selling the top spots in the finals, thereby damaging the image and integrity of a tournament permanently, just because they dont agree with an entrance fee and want to put pressure on the organisers.

this is horrible.



The teams are really being unrealistic and borderline disgusting.


borderline disgusting because they disagree? do you like your right to free speech?

Wow, really? You're pulling that card?

It's borderline disgusting because they're manipulating what the community sees and are deliberately trying to paint the organizers as the bad guys when they're ultimately not doing anything wrong.

Free speech is one thing...trying to slander an organization is entirely different.


I completely agree. IF they want to trash on ESWC because the previous managers didn't pay the winners - that's one thing. Obviously they have their bones to pick. But to basically say "Hey they are buying out slots to undeserving players" is slanderous. It's just not true - It's dishonest.
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