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On September 16 2011 00:39 sekritzzz wrote:
I don't get it and am kinda confused, don't players/teams have to pay ONLY if there is no qualifier In their region? Escw obviously doesn't cover everywhere but they cover a large part of the most famous places.
That's true. ESWC Netherlands is paying for everything for 2 SC2 players (trip, accommodation, license). The €200-to-enter is just an extra service being offered to countries' players which had no qualifiers.
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wow, this is just ridiculous. Registration fees are part of any major tournament but to have them INSTEAD of a qualifier and just let teams buy their way into the the qualifiers? That's hurting ESPORTS
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The boycotting doesnt make much sense. Ill reserve my judgement. I dont like teams pushing tournament organizers around either.
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What a terrible idea, what would make them think this is good...
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On September 16 2011 00:51 bRuTaL!! wrote:
The boycotting doesnt make much sense. Ill reserve my judgement. I dont like teams pushing tournament organizers around either.
So you agree with the new rule about buying your way into the playoffs? wow... How do you call yourself a gamer.
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This is atrocious, how dare they let money guide the tournament. Players are defined by skills not how many sponsers they have backing them.
Hope this teaches them a lesson.
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On September 16 2011 00:52 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 00:51 bRuTaL!! wrote:
The boycotting doesnt make much sense. Ill reserve my judgement. I dont like teams pushing tournament organizers around either. So you agree with the new rule about buying your way into the playoffs? wow... How do you call yourself a gamer.
You can win in qualifiers and get in for free right? If someone wants to risk $200 + travel expenses to play in ESWC then I dont mind. If he wins then he deserved that place in the first place, if he loses then what difference does it make?
The other option is no option of playing at all...
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I read somewhere that WCG lost lots of sponsorship money so I guess they are desperate
Though honestly don't think many people will be buying their way into it tbh
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On September 16 2011 00:57 bRuTaL!! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 00:52 GreEny K wrote:On September 16 2011 00:51 bRuTaL!! wrote:
The boycotting doesnt make much sense. Ill reserve my judgement. I dont like teams pushing tournament organizers around either. So you agree with the new rule about buying your way into the playoffs? wow... How do you call yourself a gamer. You can win in qualifiers and get in for free right? If someone wants to risk $200 + travel expenses to play in ESWC then I dont mind. If he wins then he deserved that place in the first place, if he loses then what difference does it make? The other option is no option of playing at all...
If this is the actual explanation I don't get the problem at all.
If there's no qualifiers, and you still want areas without qualifiers to be able to send players, a high entry fee actually makes sense. Helps keep the 12 yo's out.
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On September 16 2011 00:42 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 00:39 sekritzzz wrote:
I don't get it and am kinda confused, don't players/teams have to pay ONLY if there is no qualifier In their region? Escw obviously doesn't cover everywhere but they cover a large part of the most famous places. That's true. ESWC Netherlands is paying for everything for 2 SC2 players (trip, accommodation, license). The €200-to-enter is just an extra service being offered to countries' players which had no qualifiers.
This boycott makes no sense. For players in countries without qualifiers... it's either a high entry fee or no ability to play at all. This option is much better. I think a lot of these teams are kinda butt hurt that their players won't / have not qualified while some players from other countries can pay money. This seems a bit selfish.
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From the replies posted to this thread it seems like many people read 1-2 lines from the OP which is about 1% of the information available on the subject and form an opinion.
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Funny how this boycott happens right after they announced MC, Nada and MKP were going.
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On August 29 2011 22:07 Arcanne wrote:
This is hilarious. Might as well sell 1st place.
why sell it when they can ebay it?
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On September 16 2011 01:20 Zzoram wrote:
Funny how this boycott happens right after they announced MC, Nada and MKP were going.
You should look when this thread started :p
@ Noam
Yeah it's really scary how many poeple are not able to/refuse to read, they are hurting esports and not ESWC
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It's actually shocking how many people get on a high horse and talk about "hurting E-sports" without even reading the response / interview....
Literally takes 5 minutes to see their point of view on this - These tournament directors spoiled the teams, and now they are used to not paying.
If you can't read a fucking article, not only are you hurting Esports - you are slowly but surely killing the significance of journalistic integrity.
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A few years back, this would have been a really bad news. But I'm glad that in this day and age, we can just ignore the ESWC and get on with our SC2 lives.
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On September 16 2011 19:09 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 01:05 Loodah wrote:On September 16 2011 00:42 Grubby wrote:On September 16 2011 00:39 sekritzzz wrote:
I don't get it and am kinda confused, don't players/teams have to pay ONLY if there is no qualifier In their region? Escw obviously doesn't cover everywhere but they cover a large part of the most famous places. That's true. ESWC Netherlands is paying for everything for 2 SC2 players (trip, accommodation, license). The €200-to-enter is just an extra service being offered to countries' players which had no qualifiers. This boycott makes no sense. For players in countries without qualifiers... it's either a high entry fee or no ability to play at all. This option is much better. I think a lot of these teams are kinda butt hurt that their players won't / have not qualified while some players from other countries can pay money. This seems a bit selfish. Why should any Joe Average who happens to live in a country without a qualifier be able to pay for a spot when any Joe Average who happens to live in a country with a qualifier has to show that they're good enough for a spot? That's completely unfair, I totally back this boycott. EDIT: On top of how blatantly unfair this idea is, there is an added risk. People getting to the tournament by paying, without having shown they're good enough to be there, have the potential to lower the quality of the games that are played whilst simultaneously making it seem like certain players have had easier rides into the latter rounds, ruining the legitimacy of the tournament.
Read the god damn interview... jesus christ.
They can't afford to hold Offline qualifiers in most countries any more. Therefore they have online qualifiers and the option for the money is for players in countries where there are no online qualifiers. You also have to apply... it can't just be some random player who buys his way into it. That's just wrong. You get in based on a variety of factors determined by the community - A random bronze player with a lot of money can't get into the tournament.
Please read the fucking interview before you make idiotic posts like this.
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On September 16 2011 19:09 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 01:05 Loodah wrote:On September 16 2011 00:42 Grubby wrote:On September 16 2011 00:39 sekritzzz wrote:
I don't get it and am kinda confused, don't players/teams have to pay ONLY if there is no qualifier In their region? Escw obviously doesn't cover everywhere but they cover a large part of the most famous places. That's true. ESWC Netherlands is paying for everything for 2 SC2 players (trip, accommodation, license). The €200-to-enter is just an extra service being offered to countries' players which had no qualifiers. This boycott makes no sense. For players in countries without qualifiers... it's either a high entry fee or no ability to play at all. This option is much better. I think a lot of these teams are kinda butt hurt that their players won't / have not qualified while some players from other countries can pay money. This seems a bit selfish. Why should any Joe Average who happens to live in a country without a qualifier be able to pay for a spot when any Joe Average who happens to live in a country with a qualifier has to show that they're good enough for a spot? That's completely unfair, I totally back this boycott. EDIT: On top of how blatantly unfair this idea is, there is an added risk. People getting to the tournament by paying, without having shown they're good enough to be there, have the potential to lower the quality of the games that are played whilst simultaneously making it seem like certain players have had easier rides into the latter rounds, ruining the legitimacy of the tournament.
Joe Average still has to pay thousands of dollars for travel, hotel and the 200$
Winner of qualifier has to pay nothing, after winning his qualifier
If England doesn't have a qualifier, EG can still send Demuslim, and we would have english represantation at the Electronic Sport World Cup, to compete for a massive prize pool. I can't see what's the big deal here.
the point you made in your edit is the same as any open bracket, like MLG or Dreamhack. Some gets easier brackets than others, that's the way it's always been.
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