I like how they count tabbing thru your production buildings as spam but actually spamming mouse clicks with your scv on the same spot over and over counts as real actions. o.o

Grampz

United States2147 Posts

September 22 2011 02:54 GMT

#605

i had 190 apm not i have 110 average, i didnt even spam before...jokes

ene13

50 Posts

September 22 2011 02:54 GMT

#606

WHoa, man, I used to have an apm of 110, now its down to ~70!

I didnt know i spammed so much, i mean 40 wasteful actions per minute, I'm glad i found out now!

DjRetro

Chile309 Posts

September 22 2011 04:31 GMT

#607

On September 22 2011 10:44 RezChi wrote:
I had APM of pre 1.4 of 130~150 Now..... 70~90.....

Me too hahaha. It's pretty sad...

DrakanSilva

Chile932 Posts

September 22 2011 05:12 GMT

#608

I wonder why they did this.

Since lots of the changes they do to the UI or stats and stuff like that is to help the players to learn something about their gameplay (like the clock, hotkeys on the buttons, don't remember more now hehe)

Maybe they were thinking that now people can realize if they are spamming (Macroing??) too much so if they do then it means that you should focus more on other buttons beside the numbers. (producing, using your mouse, that kind of stuff)

I'm sure someday we will have a blue post about this on battle.net :D.

chenchen

United States1136 Posts

September 22 2011 05:15 GMT

#609

Switching between hotkeys isn't even spam.

Most of the time, it's just checking production cycles or switching through different parts of the map, both pretty important parts of the game (macro and scouting/micro).

I don't really understand this change. If anything . . . change apm to real minutes instead of blizzard "faster" minutes.

K3Nyy

United States1961 Posts

September 22 2011 05:16 GMT

#610

150~ apm with Protoss before. 140~ apm in the two games I played today.

I guess my spam was almost nonexistent. ><"

Leyra

United States1222 Posts

September 22 2011 05:17 GMT

#611

What a stupid change. People say "well you were just spamming"... and that's not even true, lol, Cycling through buildings is not "Spam" in mid-game if you're cycling checking build times, etc, and even so, repeated button sequences aren't counted either, so it's not just repeated spam presses. Essentially their APM stat means something completely subjective now, and now longer has any use whatsoever, lol.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

September 22 2011 05:18 GMT

#612

110+ APM to 70 whoa a huge drop

PeZuY

935 Posts

September 22 2011 05:19 GMT

#613

I dont really give a shit about this change in either way. I don't play the game because to value my speed.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10366 Posts

September 22 2011 05:19 GMT

#614

Why not just show both APM and EAPM? would be cool to see

shakenbake

United States207 Posts

September 22 2011 05:20 GMT

#615

like most other ppl here my apm significantly dropped. 100-110 to 70-80.

would really love to see a replay of merz or vibe post patch. apm would go from like 400 to 100. lol

SpiritAshura

United States1271 Posts

September 22 2011 05:21 GMT

#616

Does blizzard seriously not realize that pros cycle control groups with a purpose? who cares if a bunch of noobs gets a higher APM....it just gives the newbs a sense of happiness from a high APM even though it means nothing. pointless to me.

Medrea

10003 Posts

September 22 2011 05:22 GMT

#617

I used to have 450 APM before, now I have a modest 100 or so.

Vul

United States685 Posts

September 22 2011 05:24 GMT

#618

They should just post both numbers in the APM tab, as people have said. It won't take up more space than the production tab...

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10366 Posts

September 22 2011 05:25 GMT

#619

On September 22 2011 14:21 SpiritAshura wrote:
Does blizzard seriously not realize that pros cycle control groups with a purpose? who cares if a bunch of noobs gets a higher APM....it just gives the newbs a sense of happiness from a high APM even though it means nothing. pointless to me.

Thing is, cycling through helps you macro, and thus do effective actions, meaning that cycling still raises your "APM", just not as much as it did before. But relativity to other players is what matters.

MMello

279 Posts

September 22 2011 05:26 GMT

#620

This is really only the blizzard way of measuring APM.. I Use a program called SC2 Gears that measures real time apm.( I think so anyways.. I normally find that my Average APM in-game and on SC2 Gears are different). I really don't see this being a big problem , i think i will help in the long run to determine the APM in sc2 ( compared to Real time and BW).