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On July 25 2013 03:00 Viserion wrote:
I personally feel like TvZ might use some tweaks, but with a extra caution, Maru vs. Symbol in game 3 made me remember the dim last year of WoL with the horrible TvZ metagame.
I personally would suggest a very tiny immunity to widow mine after a unit gets hit by it, perhaps just by 2 seconds. This would stop things like a flock of mutas getting instakilled by widow mines.
It exists (1.5 sec), if you move your mutas back within that time, the WM does not fire.
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On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing.
i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP
if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein
if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese)
the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous
the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers.
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On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers.
what advantage do corruptors have over mutas? they are maybe slightly vetter at killig mesivacs during combats.
anything else im missing?
for a thousand disadvantages...
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On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers.
what you write is alot of bullshit.
1. WOL ZvT was fixed with infestor nerf and raven buff.
2. The major imbalanced were favouring terran heavily in WOL (in the beginning for about almost a year)
3. Ling/Bling/Muta vs Bio in WOL was balanced without mines, the imbalance came with the infestor and infestor broodlord.
4. Now an already fixes matchup has been becoming heavily T favoured with mines hellbats and boost medivacs.
5. The imbalanced in TvZ in late WOL were quite small compared to super imba terran in beginning of WOL. Why dont you remember to this?
6. You pretend to be a random player, thats very funny. Why would you play random if you say T is your main and at the same time T is op? just lol
7. You are on of the guys who probably switched to terran in beginning of WOL because it was heavily op and then after things were evened out you quickly switched to other races cause you could not abuse OP mechanics anymore.
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1. WOL ZvT was fixed with infestor nerf and raven buff.
LOL this is hilarious. But then I got to
The imbalanced in TvZ in late WOL were quite small compared to super imba terran in beginning of WOL. Why dont you remember to this?
Um...I guess that's why Zerg won how many GSLs in a row at the end? How many tournaments were ZvZ finals at the end of WoL?
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On July 25 2013 03:42 Shiori wrote:LOL this is hilarious. But then I got to Show nested quote +The imbalanced in TvZ in late WOL were quite small compared to super imba terran in beginning of WOL. Why dont you remember to this?
Um...I guess that's why Zerg won how many GSLs in a row at the end? How many tournaments were ZvZ finals at the end of WoL?
Yeah, I didn't want to break his little world when I read that. He seems so sure that terran was OP and BL-winfestor was just slightly OP. I thought the truth would be to much for him.
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you can lol as much as you want, its a matter of fact that even where T was heavily favoured (begininning of WOL) a zerg won GSL that nobody expected and that was considered as absolutely impossible.
After infestor nerf and raven buff WOL was already at its ending. ppl were preparing for hots already and there was no time to let the metagame change.
TvZ was fixed with these changes as noone played infestor opening anymore and in the endgame ravens were by far superior to any Z endgame composition as they are still now. Remember my words once terran get fixed so that we see ravens in endgame more oftenly. Then you will see how OP ravens now are.
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On July 25 2013 03:33 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers. what advantage do corruptors have over mutas? they are maybe slightly vetter at killig mesivacs during combats. anything else im missing? for a thousand disadvantages...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Corruptor
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mutalisk_(Heart_of_the_Swarm)
not wanting to get into another retarded argument here, so i'll let you figure it out. more HP, more armor, faster than a medivac, just like the mutalisk (not when it's boosting obviously, just like the mutalisk), can be morphed into broodlord, can corrupt ground units after medivacs die. etc. i'm not trying to make a holy grail argument for the corruptor, all i'm saying is you cannot bitch about not being able to use a lair tech composition all game vs a terran who techs to T3 (for terran, more accurately it's T3/3). I constantly think to myself when i narrowly beat a Zerg who made 30+ mutas in a game, "what if he just made 15, never lost them and instead put that 1500 gas into roaches, or banelings, or hive tech earlier, or anything else really?"
here, lets do an experiment
1500 extra gas to play with
-100 for burrow
-1400 for banelings
grats, you now have 15 mutas and 48 burrowed banelings on the map ready to fuck up terran's plans and force his scans, do you really think the utility of 15 extra mutalisks is better than having 24 "kill 30 marines at once" traps on the map?
put them everywhere, put them on auto unburrow if you want. honestly man, anything is better than losing 15 mutas killing scvs which do not even matter anyways (mules, 3scvs production at a time), remaking them and then trying to hold with magical baneling connections every game vs T
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On July 25 2013 03:46 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:38 LSN wrote:On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers. what you write is alot of bullshit. 1. WOL ZvT was fixed with infestor nerf and raven buff. 2. The major imbalanced were favouring terran heavily in WOL (in the beginning for about almost a year) 3. Ling/Bling/Muta vs Bio in WOL was balanced without mines, the imbalance came with the infestor and infestor broodlord. 4. Now an already fixes matchup has been becoming heavily T favoured with mines hellbats and boost medivacs. 5. The imbalanced in TvZ in late WOL were quite small compared to super imba terran in beginning of WOL. Why dont you remember to this? 6. You pretend to be a random player, thats very funny. Why would you play random if you say T is your main and at the same time T is op? just lol 7. You are on of the guys who probably switched to terran in beginning of WOL because it was heavily op and then after things were evened out you quickly switched to other races cause you could not abuse OP mechanics anymore. Seems like you are batting 50/50 here. 1. Not really, Terran was still doing very poor vs Zerg towards the very end. 2. Over the course of WOL Terran and Zerg won about the same 3. Agreed 4. Source? 5. Didn't play at the start of WOL but from what I hear that stuff was changed quickly 6. Agreed, that actually is quite funny and the only account I can find with his name is gold ^^. 7. Maybe, very likely actually
if you agree 3., 4. is a logical consequence for everybody who can use his brain.
5. stuff was not fixed quickly at all. Only the queen buff made a change and Z didnt die in 50% of games to a random unstoppable terran unit_x + scv all-in.
6. + 7. for sure.
I know alot of these guys who switched to terran in beginning of WOL cause it was strong and later on switched races again when the heavy imbalances where taken away (imbalances that directly won you games vs Z, not a late/endgame composition like BL/inf that didnt have effects in many games anyway). He is for sure one of these guys and he already admitted it
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On July 25 2013 03:46 LSN wrote:
you can lol as much as you want, its a matter of fact that even where T was heavily favoured (begininning of WOL) a zerg won GSL that nobody expected and that was considered as absolutely impossible.
After infestor nerf and raven buff WOL was already at its ending. ppl were preparing for hots already and there was no time to let the metagame change.
TvZ was fixed with these changes as noone played infestor opening anymore and in the endgame ravens were by far superior to any Z endgame composition as they are still now. Remember my words once terran get fixed so that we see ravens in endgame more oftenly. Then you will see how OP ravens now are.
You talking to a protoss player since launch, you don't need to tell me about terran being favored during the early part of SC2. But the part about the Raven buff and infestor nerf "fixing" zerg at the end of WoL is a little silly.
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On July 25 2013 03:46 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:38 LSN wrote:On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers. what you write is alot of bullshit. 1. WOL ZvT was fixed with infestor nerf and raven buff. 2. The major imbalanced were favouring terran heavily in WOL (in the beginning for about almost a year) 3. Ling/Bling/Muta vs Bio in WOL was balanced without mines, the imbalance came with the infestor and infestor broodlord. 4. Now an already fixes matchup has been becoming heavily T favoured with mines hellbats and boost medivacs. 5. The imbalanced in TvZ in late WOL were quite small compared to super imba terran in beginning of WOL. Why dont you remember to this? 6. You pretend to be a random player, thats very funny. Why would you play random if you say T is your main and at the same time T is op? just lol 7. You are on of the guys who probably switched to terran in beginning of WOL because it was heavily op and then after things were evened out you quickly switched to other races cause you could not abuse OP mechanics anymore. Seems like you are batting 50/50 here. 1. Not really, Terran was still doing very poor vs Zerg towards the very end. 2. Over the course of WOL Terran and Zerg won about the same 3. Agreed 4. Source? 5. Didn't play at the start of WOL but from what I hear that stuff was changed quickly 6. Agreed, that actually is quite funny and the only account I can find with his name is gold ^^. 7. Maybe, very likely actually
yes, because my teamliquid account is the same name as my sc2 account (note, sarcasm). Reality check, ive been a TL member since 2011, the chance that i am still playing as the same account name is so fucking low you must be so mod/a moron to have actually searched for it. I mained Terran in wings of liberty, got tired of losing 80% of my TvZ's because of queendralisks, quit, then got HOTS the day it came out and went random
nice job making the argument personal, it proves to me that among the huge amount of evidence showing zergs as equal at pro level now, you weren't able to find anything to refute my claims
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If the warhound returned mech would be in a better spot. It was really stupid and rash for blizzard to just remove it because mech needs a marauder that has factory upgrades, ffs.
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silly is expecting a change in balance to take effect on patchday. And there was no time to let it take effect as hots was in preparation. Anyway all people agree it was the infestor. For sure this has been getting fixed with the infestor nerf and the additional raven buff in lategame.
To repeat myself the raven is right now and here heavily imbalanced. You ppl dont just see it yet because bio+mine is enaugh to decide 98% of games.
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The funny thing is that you terran guys don't even admit that there is something wrong with the matchup and terran design that terran dont has to adapt at all and basically builds just (converted to zerg units) zergling, roach, hydra constantly attacks and wins games on prolevel with it combined with dropping some of these units with dropships that heal the units and you build them anyway for the reason of healing.
There is no spellcaster that needs to used. Nothing besides some split micro that has become fairly easy with speedvacs and mines+maurauder clearing banelings cost efficiently.
Even a blind guy can see that there is something wrong and heavily in favour for terran. But nvm. We need to wait probably another 4-6 months until blizzard recognizes it too and does anything about it (another 6 months) like in the beginning of WOL.
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On July 25 2013 03:59 LSN wrote:
The funny thing is that you terran guys don't even admit that there is something wrong with the matchup and terran design that terran dont has to adapt at all and basically builds just (converted to zerg units) zergling, roach, hydra constantly attacks and wins games on prolevel with it combined with dropping some of these units with dropships that heal the units and you build them anyway for the reason of healing.
Even a blind guy can see that there is something wrong and heavily in favour for terran. But nvm. We need to wait probably another 4-6 months until blizzard recognizes it too and does anything about it (another 6 months) like in the beginning of WOL.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League#Tournaments
Z - 9 gsl wins, 4 back to back, the most recent 4
T - 7 gsl wins hasn't won gsl since 2012 when MVP beat parting
P - 3 gsl wins
keep crying buddy, your race has had a tremendous amount of success and has basically dominated since zerg was buffed in may 2012, your race is not going to win this season, it's not the end of the world.
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On July 25 2013 03:38 LSN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 03:26 c0sm0naut wrote:On July 25 2013 03:12 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 25 2013 02:15 c0sm0naut wrote:
jesus christ this thread feels like a fucking time portal to 2010 or some shit
zergs, protip
dont spend 3k gas on mutas every game, build 12, dont lose them because given their speed there is no excuse for that, go immediately to ultras, even if it means delaying your 2/2 or 3/3, get them out and its smooth fucking sailing
dont spend 1k gas on a bane bust, just because you have mutas and terran took a third. this isn't wings of liberty anymore, you're not doing anything but putting yourself extremely behind going for these cheap wins I always laugh at random nobodies trying to tell pros how to play. If they think getting a large flock of Mutas and going for all ins is the way to beat Terran then it probably is. And if it isn't they will figure it out eventually and not thanks to some diamond player that thinks he knows what he is doing. i always laugh at zergs who mash square pegs into a circular hole, then whine to blizzard that circular holes are OP if mutas, lings, and banes are countered by mines + bio, why not try something else instead of mindlessly making the same composition. "“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - einstein if you think i'm diamond, you're wrong, i'm masters as every race (1k as random with like 200 pool, i announce race every match and do not cheese) the suggestion earlier in the thread "getting corruptors" is smart as fuck, but none of the zergs crying in this thread are listening. it's been two weeks since hellbats were nerfed, zerg for the first time since 2012 isn't going to win a GSL. the amount of entitlement i read in these and other threads is absolutely ridiculous the reason i know that "trying new things" works is because during WOL i mained T and had a like 30% win rate against garbage zergs, simply because the matchup was broken beyond belief. I didn't just post and cry about it, i practiced and tried new stuff constantly. It worked sometimes, but it required good decisions and scouting. the matchup had a genuine imbalance in it that was solved with the implementation of widow mines and speedboost for medivacs. If you want to play the "we've tried everything card" try something besides one strategy, and don't cry about losing to 3/3 bio when you delay your 3/3 only to crank out more 100/100 harass units that are ultimately redundant past 12-15 of them anyways. this thread always delivers. what you write is alot of bullshit. 1. WOL ZvT was fixed with infestor nerf and raven buff.
Oh that irony.
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lol you guys can not even admit a matchup is wrong in a general gameplay perspective. This is what also makes your points on balance pointless cause its just terran bias. Everyone who knows broodwar and its different ways to make the opponent adapt to your play for every race and compares it to SC2 hots can see that this is heavily unbalanced as terran basically has to build only 4 different units every game and nothing else no matter what strategy the zerg plays. Not even a spellcaster in there rofl. Just some basic tier 1 units make it in every game.
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