Designated Balance Discussion Thread - Page 1266

InfCereal

Canada1759 Posts

March 29 2017 21:11 GMT

#25301

On March 30 2017 04:59 IamBiSa wrote:
Revelation is the only reliable way in dealing with Lurkers. If you want to nerf revelation you have to buff other forms of detection for Protoss.

Maybe some kind of small, flying unit. And to make sure it doesn't die too easily, we should make it invisible.

That sounds good.

Majick

416 Posts

March 29 2017 21:21 GMT

#25302

On March 30 2017 06:11 InfCereal wrote:

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Maybe some kind of small, flying unit. And to make sure it doesn't die too easily, we should make it invisible.

That sounds good.

And let's give it a speed upgrade so that it can scale into late game!

pvsnp

7676 Posts

March 29 2017 21:47 GMT

#25303

Agree that Revelation's duration is just too long. 45 seconds or even 30 would be perfectly adequate. The weakness of an unbeatable Protoss lategame army is that it's slow and can be outmaneuvered. Revelation removes that weakness and contributes a great deal to Zerg frustration at invincible lategame Protoss.

brickrd

United States4894 Posts

March 30 2017 00:13 GMT

#25304

i main z and the idea that observers are any good against hydra lurker is fucking hilarious... lol

Kevin_Sorbo

Canada3217 Posts

March 30 2017 01:23 GMT

#25305

On March 30 2017 09:13 brickrd wrote:
i main z and the idea that observers are any good against hydra lurker is fucking hilarious... lol

still having perma revelation on the opponents army feels super strong dont you think?

c0sm0naut

United States1229 Posts

March 31 2017 01:13 GMT

#25306

On March 30 2017 10:23 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:

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still having perma revelation on the opponents army feels super strong dont you think?

it does but at the same time without this we would literally be back to WOL in the ultra late game.

the fact of the matter is, because you can advance creep in this game, static defense from zerg is extremely powerful late game. without revelation theres no way to reliably see lurkers and shoot broodlords with tempests. observers will never get valuable vision of a zerg army once they get a lot of spores/overseers up. every game would end up being zerg slow pushing with creep, or playing WOL style and moving around 30 spores/10 broods/10 casters/30 queens/30 hydras and sucking up the resources on the map one base at a time, totally unkillable. masters random

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