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SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 03:36:13
August 19 2011 03:27 GMT
#141
I just checked and LA players have now access to the PTR <3

Thanks Blizzard <3

It seems they just updated it today, so maybe there are plans for PTR really soon? I hope so, I need the replays from MLG that won't be released till they fix whatever is the problem >.<
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 19 2011 06:34 GMT
#142
If so, SDream, I'll be happy to spam you on the PTR to test these feature.
Cheprus
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2 Posts
August 19 2011 22:34 GMT
#143
Hi everyone,, i have problem and i hope you guys can help me a little bit:

I am still stucked in bronze for like months now,, and i am only playing against silver, gold, and sometimes even plat for weeks now and i am winning like 75% of these matches but i am not promoting..

the last 2 weeks i have played like 50 matches and against 4-5 bronze players, the others are all silver or higher skilled players, but i am not getting promoted no matter how much of these matches i am winning, for example: yesterday i played 8 matches and won them all,, only 1 bronze player. but still not getting promoted.

do anybody knows what i am doing wrong??
This REALLY pisses me off.

grtz Rick "Cheprus" van Gils
niks
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
August 19 2011 23:01 GMT
#144
You're not doing anything wrong, it's just that the system doesn't know where to put you. You just have to keep playing, I'm afraid.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 19 2011 23:01 GMT
#145
/sigh. Cheprus this comes up often enough that it kills me. Blizzard should really have put a disclaimer that said results may vary on ranks :\

You're not doing anything wrong. Sometimes people just have rotten luck and basically, you have to wait for a new division to open. The best advice I can give is to keep playing and winning. Every day if you can. As long as you have a win every day the system should be trying to place you in a higher division. But it's barely uncommon to read what you're saying. The only thing I can really do is link you the Leagues and Ladder guide which I'm sure you've read and wish you the best of luck.

Keep on winning, it doesn't matter what stupid icon is next to your rank as long as you know you've won 10 straight. Good luck.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KarlMax
Profile Joined April 2011
France10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 23:17:18
August 19 2011 23:16 GMT
#146
Using a hotkeyed SCV to detect banelings landmines, by just using the print of a command center (or other building). If one of the green squares is red, then there's a landmine and you can scan it.

I don't know if someone else proposed it before, i just thought of it, and if someone already mentionned the idea, then great.
Could it work with a matching APM ? Are some people already using it ? Just wondering if this is a realistic idea.
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 23:58:12
August 19 2011 23:57 GMT
#147
On August 20 2011 08:16 KarlMax wrote:
Using a hotkeyed SCV to detect banelings landmines, by just using the print of a command center (or other building). If one of the green squares is red, then there's a landmine and you can scan it.

I don't know if someone else proposed it before, i just thought of it, and if someone already mentionned the idea, then great.
Could it work with a matching APM ? Are some people already using it ? Just wondering if this is a realistic idea.


It doesn't show a red square. At least with lings, I don't think it would apply differently to banes.
KarlMax
Profile Joined April 2011
France10 Posts
August 20 2011 00:16 GMT
#148
Thought it did. Thanks =)
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
August 20 2011 00:52 GMT
#149
On August 20 2011 08:57 Indrium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 08:16 KarlMax wrote:
Using a hotkeyed SCV to detect banelings landmines, by just using the print of a command center (or other building). If one of the green squares is red, then there's a landmine and you can scan it.

I don't know if someone else proposed it before, i just thought of it, and if someone already mentionned the idea, then great.
Could it work with a matching APM ? Are some people already using it ? Just wondering if this is a realistic idea.


It doesn't show a red square. At least with lings, I don't think it would apply differently to banes.


haha, if only T's had a baneling minesweeper.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
August 20 2011 01:28 GMT
#150
On August 17 2011 09:06 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Random question: Did Select do his mandatory military service in Korea yet?

He's a US citizen now, isn't he? I don't think he has to unless he were to move back to Korea.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
zhongxinaru
Profile Joined August 2011
China2 Posts
August 20 2011 03:30 GMT
#151
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alan3467
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#152
Recently it feels that protoss players have the lowest WIN/ LOSE ratio out of all the races. with recent patches from nerfing warp gate upgrade time, to buffing other units , new strategies seem to be overpowering the protoss. Infestors and ghost have become great counters to the current protoss army composition. and with nerfing on protoss high templar it can no longer compete with its other race counter parts. It just no longer seems to be that the protoss is that all mighty powerful race it use to be. Do you agree that blizzard should buff the protoss? if not can someone give me a way to counter them?
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 05:35:14
August 20 2011 05:29 GMT
#153
On August 20 2011 14:00 alan3467 wrote:
Recently it feels that protoss players have the lowest WIN/ LOSE ratio out of all the races. with recent patches from nerfing warp gate upgrade time, to buffing other units , new strategies seem to be overpowering the protoss. Infestors and ghost have become great counters to the current protoss army composition. and with nerfing on protoss high templar it can no longer compete with its other race counter parts. It just no longer seems to be that the protoss is that all mighty powerful race it use to be. Do you agree that blizzard should buff the protoss? if not can someone give me a way to counter them?


Protoss army is still strong, that is not the problem right now. Problem is that you don't have a good harass unit. You could mass pheonix, you can invest in DT, but you don't have marine drop, blue flame drop, banshee nor baneling drop nor mass mutas efficiency. That means it is easy to feel somewhat safe against you. You best harass is possible walking zealots into mineral lines u.u

Also, your macro mechanic (chrono) just fail. Zerg has the queen, that is actually worth one more hatchery, it's awesome. Terrans have mules AND scan. Protoss can make units/tech faster, but then it becomes so standard that all it does is more nerfs to you. Chrono needs to work with warping buildings and to increase the regen of energy of units and maybe increase their attack speed as well. Then you will have options that are interesting. They could actually nerf chrono to buff some things on protoss and it could probably be benefitial to protoss.

But army power isn't the problem, maybe Terran army power is a problem? EMP, marauder with stim, I don't know, I only play zerg so PvZ, but I still think protoss can be fixed with a better macro mechanic + a really good harass unit (reaver??).

That is only my opinion, as a zerg. ZvP is imbalanced, but you can still hide a tech and kill me by surprise, that means you still wins sometimes (Losira just lost to 4 gate and is now in UP & Down, isn't he? I didn't watch it, I just heard). So you can still win with the nerfed "4 gate", 4 gate is still strong, problem is that if we know you are doing whatever, we can counter, And your sneaky abilities (DT) aren't strong enough to make us that worried

Yeah, protoss needs help IMO, but buffing colossus, high templar etc won't help with the actual problem, army power isn't the problem >.>

Sorry for my terrible english u.u
WEMADEJT
Profile Joined August 2011
8 Posts
August 20 2011 05:50 GMT
#154
Yeah I'll agree withe the most.But also Socke beats often Zerg with his Templar heavy Build.

But did any of you notice that right now in the GSL Code S the most in the Round of 16 are Terrans.
But I don't think that Terran is imbalanced. I just think that one year ago many Pro Player switchs to SC2 and at this time Terran was simply Imbalance.
Right now they don't wantto switch races. Thats why there are so many korean Pro Terrans.
What do you think about that? Do you think its a Problem?
alan3467
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 20 2011 06:15 GMT
#155
The main problem i feel is still this, while the colossus and high templar do high DPS, however they only excel at killing large amount of lower tier units, they are weak to high tier unit because its so easy to hard counter the protoss army by just killing the templar or the colossus, because gate way units are weak when compared to the roach hydra or marine marauder,

However i have to disagree with you in terms of army power, as each race has its own traits like zerg massing , or terran d fence and long life, the protoss falls under the category of having higher power base army, so in idea a max 200 protoss should be stronger than a max zerg or terran. However the protoss army still does not truly shine till they get those higher teir units like col temps , there gateways units are relativity weak when compared to those of the zerg and terran

Also i have to complain that the ghost and infestor either have to be nerffed or that the templar regain its kadarian amulet. What i feel most people didn't realize is that the ghost and infestor fungle growth and EMP are equal to the templars storm, its just that not until recently have they been used, while protoss have been using templars before them.

As for the harass unit, i feel that its more of a equalizer, the more harass a race has, it takes away from the other parts, vise versa, so the fact that the protoss has relativley no harass should be said that there army should be stronger, or that production be better. the zerg and terran both have harass units, ( thou i still believe zerg to have the best if used correctly) while there armies are now relativly equal to a protoss, if not more powerful.

the main reason i feel on the protoss nerfs are for helping the lower levels of SC 2 out. where most people would just sit on 2 base or 3 base, get 200 200 and push, while then the protoss army would win. but in higher tier games while more is happening it won't be as easy to get 200 200, plus thing of micro of storms and kill the col first are things that don't happen at the lower teirs, but at higher teirs they do.

i believe that they should either nerf ghost and infestor, or buff the standard gateway unit
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 11:51:39
August 20 2011 11:22 GMT
#156
I don't seem to remember bronze-silver players doing storm warp ins which was one of the capitulations of Khydarian amulet. And gateway units are already so strong that other races cannot beat them without upgrades like tunneling claws, attack range for hydras, stim, combat shield/conc shell.

And warp prisms are the most underrated uber unit in the game. As a zerg player I'm terrified that one day Protoss will learn that they can win late games with the uber power of warping in 9 chargelots and a sentry, killing a hive+all tech and forcefielding the ramp so I can only respond with certain units.

Feedback is still fucking amazing,, storm is still OP, Colo/voidray is still nearly unbeatable and if you want a better harass unit than DTs then I think you're just saying the grass is greener on the other side.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
August 20 2011 14:54 GMT
#157
I've moved to China and tried to play on EU but it lags too much.

Can't for the life of me figure out how to get an account on the Chinese server. Anyone willing to help? PM and I'll love you forever
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 15:00:28
August 20 2011 14:56 GMT
#158
On August 20 2011 20:22 Probe1 wrote:
I don't seem to remember bronze-silver players doing storm warp ins which was one of the capitulations of Khydarian amulet. And gateway units are already so strong that other races cannot beat them without upgrades like tunneling claws, attack range for hydras, stim, combat shield/conc shell.

And warp prisms are the most underrated uber unit in the game. As a zerg player I'm terrified that one day Protoss will learn that they can win late games with the uber power of warping in 9 chargelots and a sentry, killing a hive+all tech and forcefielding the ramp so I can only respond with certain units.

Feedback is still fucking amazing,, storm is still OP, Colo/voidray is still nearly unbeatable and if you want a better harass unit than DTs then I think you're just saying the grass is greener on the other side.


try this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255254

edit: I don't think we need two active threads where we discuss balance, just IMO though.
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 20 2011 14:58 GMT
#159
My post was in response to the one directly.. above it. Tbh I don't really care about people putting words in pros mouths to justify the reason they're in platinum.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
August 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#160
On August 15 2011 14:38 SDream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 05:32 SDream wrote:
It seems that the bronze ogsnada wasn't fake after all.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/profile/1574314/1/oGsNaDa/

He was intentionally at bronze in season 2, so he could go 150 wins 0 losses into season 3 till master+.

I watched one replay and it really seems to be him, or at least a very skilled player (it's not a hack!!).

Nada exploited the ladder system to look even cooler than he already is!! XD

Edit: replay here: http://sc2shr.com/cK


Can someone that is a Nada fan look at the replay and tell me what do you think, is this guy the real deal?

KSHolly is a korean descendent and he said he talked to this player after the game and that he typed as if korean was his first language (fast and precise).



anyone know about this guy? i just checked his match history and he beat fxo optikzero last night so he must be pretty good, i also played him in a 2v2 tournament and his sign in info on the tournament website said beastyqt, but i watched our 2v2 replay and then a beastyqt replay and the hotkeys were completely different so its obviously not him... also hes 174-7 in 1v1, 145-11 in 2v2, 120-3 in 3v3, and 77-0 in 4v4... something seems weird about this guy, anyone know watsup?
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