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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
At least with nowadays internet speed it isn't that big of a problem... Edit: The blue Rhastion from Brazil forums confirmed that it was a "bug" that led LA players from having access to PTR and that's why we don't have a full support to it yet. We still can play there though, just have to download the enUS client and install PTR there. | ||
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galivet
288 Posts
Might be a good opportunity to switch races if it's a clean slate. | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
1. Why does roaches get +2 dam every missile upgrade? 2. Why does a roach comes out even vs a stalker (who btw like the hydra only gets +1 dam every missile upgrades) | ||
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Baseic
Netherlands310 Posts
On August 27 2011 06:25 Zuxo wrote: Two questions I have been wondering about for a long time. 1. Why does roaches get +2 dam every missile upgrade? 2. Why does a roach comes out even vs a stalker (who btw like the hydra only gets +1 dam every missile upgrades) Roach fires way slower, but I too have been wondering about the imbalance of roach upgrade, as a 3-3 roach is actually way strong than a 3-0-3 stalker. | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
On August 27 2011 07:06 Baseic wrote: Roach fires way slower, but I too have been wondering about the imbalance of roach upgrade, as a 3-3 roach is actually way strong than a 3-0-3 stalker. Yeah I know. I also tried to put a 3/3/3 stalker vs a 3/3 roach with speed and on creep. The results were that they both died ( and yes I know stalkers can shoot air and the roach can't but still). | ||
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HardBoy359
Portugal48 Posts
I would make one but I don't now any BO, I suck because of that and I think that more people share my problem, a centralized page for standard strats and BOs would be great :D another thing what do you guys think about the 12 pool 19 hatch topic? | ||
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HardBoy359
Portugal48 Posts
On August 27 2011 10:05 Zuxo wrote: Yeah I know. I also tried to put a 3/3/3 stalker vs a 3/3 roach with speed and on creep. The results were that they both died ( and yes I know stalkers can shoot air and the roach can't but still). Roaches are not imbalanced x.x Make immortals. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Edit: I actually got back out of bed cos I felt I gave a very weak response. An 11 pool 18 hatch and a 12 pool 19 hatch are the same principle. A fast queen, the ability to defend against early aggression. Most notably a ZvZ build that encompasses pure or extremely heavy zergling until a fast lair/infestor where you easily out upgrade your opponent, then getting a ultra fast hive for ultralisks, rolling a pure roach/roach infestor army with 3/0/5 ultras 3/0/3 lings and infestors. It's a fun alternative to the standard roach infestor roach muta roach roach roach ZvZ style. Also roach immortal pretty good, | ||
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HardBoy359
Portugal48 Posts
On August 27 2011 14:30 Probe1 wrote: A 12 pool 19 hatch is the same thing as a 11 pool 18 hatch only with weird ass timings. Edit: I actually got back out of bed cos I felt I gave a very weak response. You didn't have to, that was really awesome of you to do thanks :D | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:00 HardBoy359 wrote: Roaches are not imbalanced x.x Make immortals. I know they aren't just thought about the upgrade aspect of it compared to Hydra/Stalker. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On August 27 2011 06:25 Zuxo wrote: Two questions I have been wondering about for a long time. 1. Why does roaches get +2 dam every missile upgrade? 2. Why does a roach comes out even vs a stalker (who btw like the hydra only gets +1 dam every missile upgrades) 1. All units get around a 10% damage boost for each weapon upgrade. Taking rounding into account, it is only consistent that the stalker gets 10+1 (+4 vs armored) and the roach gets 16+2. Just like the zealot by the way, who gets 2x(8+1) and thus profits just as much as the roach. Look around Wikipedia, you'll find that almost all units behave like this. 2. The stalker is fast, flexible, has superior range, can learn blink and attacks air. For all these benefits, of course you are less cost efficient than a roach in a straight-up fight. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Looking at damage output alone stalkers seem to get the worse end of the deal. But Stalkers have bonus damage against armored. A 3/0/0 stalker does 12 damage per shot and a 0/3/0 Roach does 20. Doesn't seem fair at all? Look at the attack speed. A Stalker fires .5 seconds faster than a Roach! In a Stalker-Roach fight they will trade pretty evenly. But when you add in Blink, the Stalker will come out on top. You might say, well roaches have burrow you know. But you can't fire when a roach is burrowed. Blink backs allow you to maintain fire on the enemy army while regenerating shields. Stalkers have more total health (80 hp 80 shield vs 145), fire faster and have a superior range. Sure in a theory bubble Roaches will eat Stalkers but with micro and positioning a Stalker is the stronger unit. I'd say this was the last thing that needed to be said on Roach//Stalker without adding in well what about lings et cetera. HardBoy359 were you looking for a standard set of build orders like + Show Spoiler [this?] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9q0Gh.jpg) The Liquipedia page for strategy pretty much has that O.o Zerg Strategy | ||
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HardBoy359
Portugal48 Posts
what I was saying is that someone that know the standard ones could make a page of Standard Builds so they are easier to find :D | ||
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Zambozo
United Kingdom63 Posts
When I play ladder and i get cheese few times in a roll I am just pissed I go in nerd rage and i just hate the game(in this moment ONLY). I am very competev. I play terran and when it happen to win a game with tactic and timing and everything go good for me. I just get called names and that i play th OP race and i will not get a win if i was not playing as T. That just make me sick inside. When i lose a game (not a cheese play) i will always admit the gg and wp. No matter what. When I lose 4-5 games in a roll (yes i do that!) I hate it !!! But re watch the replay and trying to find out what i did wrong.But with the cheese just i want to find that person and to smack him in the face hard(few times). What do you think and what you do when y are in a bad mode and how do you get out of it. P.S. I love the game and i do not think to stop it for nothing right now.  GL and HF ! | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
8/27/11 15:12 EST | ||
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Zambozo
United Kingdom63 Posts
On August 28 2011 04:15 PopcornColonel wrote: [MLG Raleigh] Does anyone know why day[9] isn't casting trimaster vs incontrol right now? I missed JP's and Husky's introduction, they probably said it during that. 8/27/11 15:12 EST voice problem they sad ... hope he is back JP is doing good but i prefer Day9 | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
On August 28 2011 04:35 Zambozo wrote: voice problem they sad ... hope he is back JP is doing good but i prefer Day9 Same =) I hope he gets better though! I did hear his voice getting messed up earlier. Sounded a litter hoarse. Honestly, I would rather have him quit the tournament completely than get injured. | ||
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Zambozo
United Kingdom63 Posts
On August 28 2011 04:51 PopcornColonel wrote: Same =) I hope he gets better though! I did hear his voice getting messed up earlier. Sounded a litter hoarse. Honestly, I would rather have him quit the tournament completely than get injured. Injury is hard to say he just got tired i think. But also may there is the lunch break as Tastless and Artosis said they will go to lunch break may be day9 is there and he will replace Husky .... With JP( i just hope he is ok, thats why my imagination is working overtime :D | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
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HardBoy359
Portugal48 Posts
On August 28 2011 02:45 Zambozo wrote: How do you cope with losing? For those who do not understand what i mean : When I play ladder and i get cheese few times in a roll I am just pissed I go in nerd rage and i just hate the game(in this moment ONLY). I am very competev. I play terran and when it happen to win a game with tactic and timing and everything go good for me. I just get called names and that i play th OP race and i will not get a win if i was not playing as T. That just make me sick inside. When i lose a game (not a cheese play) i will always admit the gg and wp. No matter what. When I lose 4-5 games in a roll (yes i do that!) I hate it !!! But re watch the replay and trying to find out what i did wrong.But with the cheese just i want to find that person and to smack him in the face hard(few times). What do you think and what you do when y are in a bad mode and how do you get out of it. P.S. I love the game and i do not think to stop it for nothing right now. GL and HF !Well I usually don't really mind loosing if I played well in that game, it makes me really sick when people cheese me -.- T is not OP! I think that you should take all those insults as complements, you played so much better than the opponent that you made your race seam op :D But loosing makes me tilt a lot, when you loose and you want to rush to another game or you feel really fucking disapointed and angry at yourself just calm tha f*ck down, play other games, LoL will keep you mouse hand warm, and wow or other hotkey based MMO will keep your fingers ready, and then when it passes you can go back to SC2 :D I had a huge streak of losses, I was 7th silver, and then I started loosing and loosing and then I go injured in my mouse hand and I still played because I wanted to get top 7 again and then I stoped and now I have't played for a month. I decided that I need to rest and define my BOs and openings and then begin to train them, after MLG I should begin playing again and I intent to get to gold :D Hope it helps ^^ | ||
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