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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 29 2011 07:18 GMT
#81
MLG gives out way more prize money to the COD and halo scene, and is probably not breaking even in those areas(maybe halo). The sc2 prizepool is small by comparison, yet it is their most popular event. I'd like to see some rebalancing.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
July 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#82
Give me a bar stating the amount of memberships and what they got to go and I'll contribute
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Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
July 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#83
besides the last MLG all others where failed in terms of streaming and sheduling, i rather buy 20more GSL seasons.
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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
July 29 2011 07:20 GMT
#84
On July 29 2011 16:18 Disquiet wrote:
MLG gives out way more prize money to the COD and halo scene, and is probably not breaking even in those areas(maybe halo). The sc2 prizepool is small by comparison, yet it is their most popular event. I'd like to see some rebalancing.


No they don't give out more money to Halo/Cod, SC2 actually gets more of the prize money in total.

Also is everyone forgetting that MLG is gonna expand to South America? A lot of the 50 million investment could be for that.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
July 29 2011 07:22 GMT
#85
50 million, I hope your kidding. Thats a huge fucking number. I had never heard a figure like that before and I have been following MLG for a long long time.
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:26:39
July 29 2011 07:22 GMT
#86
On July 29 2011 16:06 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 15:57 FXOpen wrote:
Ummm, first they announce the investment of 52 million? (wasnt that the figure). Put on some events with little prize money (to fly from anywhere outside north america, it costs 50% of prize money to go to MLG).

Then ask for a huge increase in income to justify a prize increase.

Let me guess, the owner drives a ferrari? OR something of similar cost.

Why not just not make hype about the inevitable (the 100k subscribers is inevitable) and just raise the prize purse?


the thing is, the prize pool should be atleast always what the players put into. If the players put in 19 grand worth of money, the prize pool should be 19 grand... just think about it. That is how much the players put in for entry fees right now. Yet the prize pool is around 14 grand meaning that mlg is already making roughly 5 grand off of the gamers buying into the tournament alone.

Why should that be so? What is wrong with making 5 grand off of buy ins? I trust the people who run MLG know more about it's inner workings than we do and they would be more qualified than people on TL to decide if investing another 5 grand into the prize pool will make them more money in the short or long run. Personally, I really don't see increasing the prize pool by 5 grand making, MLG more than an extra 5 grand in profits or any significant impact on the long term success of the company. Maybe I'm wrong but even if I am that still doesn't have anything to do with buy ins.
ZuesSc2
Profile Joined June 2011
United States35 Posts
July 29 2011 07:23 GMT
#87
Lets not forget MLG gave out free HD streams i think i saw a comment saying that was a $500,000 loss. I do agree the prize pool should be increased but I'm fully confident MLG has all the numbers and will do their very best to reward the players. <3
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 29 2011 07:23 GMT
#88
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!

im sure they're not at 0 subscribers haha . but his statement is pretty silly
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:25:03
July 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#89
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!


It's really funny... I just came up with a business plan.


Everybody send me money, I will use some of it to create a tourney with a pricepool depending on how much money you give me...

Before you decline, think twice. Not sending me money, is hurting ESPORTS!



On July 29 2011 16:23 ZuesSc2 wrote:
Lets not forget MLG gave out free HD streams i think i saw a comment saying that was a $500,000 loss. I do agree the prize pool should be increased but I'm fully confident MLG has all the numbers and will do their very best to reward the players. <3


After the major fuckups on the events before Dallas, this was not really a "gift".
Blurzz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
July 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#90
On July 29 2011 14:21 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +

Is this a reasonable goal?


No. No it is not. Yes, MLG needs to increase their prize pools to be considered a genuine major in the line up of SC2 tournaments. No, more memberships are not going to give them the desperately needed cash to do that. Prize pools are probably less than 1% of their budget. Miniscule.

That tweet is the kind of cynical shit that makes me NOT want to throw money MLG's way. I'd buy a second NASL pass before I'd pay for their stream upgrade.

Edit: what InControl said. I'll go further and address Sundance myself: dick move.

Pretty much agree 100% with this. MLG will be getting none of my money.
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Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
July 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#91
Huh, funny how no one mentioned how much Blizzard might make from this
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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
July 29 2011 07:31 GMT
#92
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!

On July 29 2011 14:21 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +

Is this a reasonable goal?


No. No it is not. Yes, MLG needs to increase their prize pools to be considered a genuine major in the line up of SC2 tournaments. No, more memberships are not going to give them the desperately needed cash to do that. Prize pools are probably less than 1% of their budget. Miniscule.

That tweet is the kind of cynical shit that makes me NOT want to throw money MLG's way. I'd buy a second NASL pass before I'd pay for their stream upgrade.

Edit: what InControl said. I'll go further and address Sundance myself: dick move.


I hope you actually weren't being sarcastic, iNcontrol. If you were, I completely, and utterly disagree with you.

I believe it's fine that MLG is saying the community should pitch in. No other sport has free viewing without ads. If you want to watch SC2 with no ads, you pay a little money. How in the world is that going to hurt eSports?

I want to support this statement. His remark with the number being too low meaning slashing prize pools is obviously sarcasm. The number is NOT too low, and what does it matter if there aren't 100K unique live viewers. People pay to watch the VOD's because they can't watch it live. Subscribers has nothing to do with live viewers.

Get behind MLG, get behind eSports. I don't see how either can hurt us.
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 29 2011 07:32 GMT
#93
On July 29 2011 16:24 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!


It's really funny... I just came up with a business plan.


Everybody send me money, I will use some of it to create a tourney with a pricepool depending on how much money you give me...

Before you decline, think twice. Not sending me money, is hurting ESPORTS!


This is what TB is doing (granted he's not just asking for most of the money). I love him for that.
Never make a hydralisk.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:33:22
July 29 2011 07:32 GMT
#94
If i get a progress bar I'll pay the money.

5K is not enough for our heros that bring us 3 days of solid entertainment.
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
July 29 2011 07:34 GMT
#95
Speaking of this...

Has the stream quality increased at all since last MLG? I thought Columbus was a great event, but the HD stream quality left a lot to be desired for me. Maybe it;s just that DreamHack, NASL, and other major tournaments spoiled me with their stream qualities
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
July 29 2011 07:35 GMT
#96
um let's all buy memberships? haha support esports i guess

this time we're "guaranteed" to benefit since he said he would raise the prize pools, but no promise i guess o.o
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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 29 2011 07:37 GMT
#97
On July 29 2011 16:20 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 16:18 Disquiet wrote:
MLG gives out way more prize money to the COD and halo scene, and is probably not breaking even in those areas(maybe halo). The sc2 prizepool is small by comparison, yet it is their most popular event. I'd like to see some rebalancing.


No they don't give out more money to Halo/Cod, SC2 actually gets more of the prize money in total.

Also is everyone forgetting that MLG is gonna expand to South America? A lot of the 50 million investment could be for that.

Please don't spout absolute bullshit, Halo has a 50k prizepool, cod ~30k, sc2 has 14k.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 29 2011 07:40 GMT
#98
On July 29 2011 16:37 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 16:20 zaii wrote:
On July 29 2011 16:18 Disquiet wrote:
MLG gives out way more prize money to the COD and halo scene, and is probably not breaking even in those areas(maybe halo). The sc2 prizepool is small by comparison, yet it is their most popular event. I'd like to see some rebalancing.


No they don't give out more money to Halo/Cod, SC2 actually gets more of the prize money in total.

Also is everyone forgetting that MLG is gonna expand to South America? A lot of the 50 million investment could be for that.

Please don't spout absolute bullshit, Halo has a 50k prizepool, cod ~30k, sc2 has 14k.


Halo teams are made up of 4 people, CoD is 4 too or 5? I don't really know. I'm pretty sure per person the prizes are the same.
Never make a hydralisk.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 29 2011 07:41 GMT
#99
On July 29 2011 16:40 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 16:37 Disquiet wrote:
On July 29 2011 16:20 zaii wrote:
On July 29 2011 16:18 Disquiet wrote:
MLG gives out way more prize money to the COD and halo scene, and is probably not breaking even in those areas(maybe halo). The sc2 prizepool is small by comparison, yet it is their most popular event. I'd like to see some rebalancing.


No they don't give out more money to Halo/Cod, SC2 actually gets more of the prize money in total.

Also is everyone forgetting that MLG is gonna expand to South America? A lot of the 50 million investment could be for that.

Please don't spout absolute bullshit, Halo has a 50k prizepool, cod ~30k, sc2 has 14k.


Halo teams are made up of 4 people, CoD is 4 too or 5? I don't really know. I'm pretty sure per person the prizes are the same.

Maybe, but they still give out much more money to halo and cod.
Archvil3
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark989 Posts
July 29 2011 07:44 GMT
#100
Prize pool is getting raised next season anyway. There is no way it will stay at 5k with MLG's recent success.

If he can push the amount of paying members he can push the prizes for the last MLG's this season as well, makes sence from a financial and business point of view.

Kind of a controversial way to put it out though with a tweet like that, making it a target for trolls and haters: OMG you will raise prize pool if you have enough room in your budget to do so!?!?!? NO way im gonna pay now!!

The reasonable response is just to ignore it, if you want HQ stream and VODS, then pay if that was your intention either way and if you didnt plan to do so dont let this tweet change your opinion.
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