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On July 29 2011 14:40 MisterFred wrote:
Ok, so we have a yearly budget of $50 million dollars a year, give or take $15 million. So for prize pools to be 1% of their total budget, they'd need to be giving out $500,000 in total prize pool.
Grand total prize poor for SC2 in 2011: $170,000 dollars. So if prize pools for the other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars (and they may well be, MLG pays them way more per viewer than SC2), then MLG pays somewhere between 1-2% of their budget to prize pool.
If total prize pools for other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars, then MLG probably is paying less than 1% of their budget as prize pool.
Suck on math, bitches.
For the record, I hope MLG does well & raises their prize pools. And I plan to enjoy watching their tournament. But I'm not going to pretend SC2 pros aren't getting a raw deal for the second year in a row.
But if you want to support SC2 e-sports on a budget, watch the standard MLG stream and buy a computer peripheral from a sponsor of your favorite team. Sponsorships are why your favorite players show up to Anaheim.
Are you saying that MLG is a 50 million dollar yearly business?
Where can I see these numbers. Or are you assuming?
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I'm not sure how serious sundance is about this whole thing. But, I bought my pass anyways. I was going to buy it eventually so might as well buy it now.
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On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!
Gentleman and a scholar
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I bought a pass because of what Sundance said about the prize pool increasing
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The new yearly pass is a steal. The only reason not to buy one if you're an SC2 fan is if you're a broke teenager with no credit card.
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Well it's about time, MLG now has arguably the biggest representation of all scenes out of any LAN.
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I'll probably buy a pass for the remaining MLGs after I return to the states early September. No idea what MLG makes from these events in correlation to the prize pools though. If the stream quality impresses me then I'll probably spring for a yearly pass next year.
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On July 29 2011 14:43 TooN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 14:40 MisterFred wrote:
Ok, so we have a yearly budget of $50 million dollars a year, give or take $15 million. So for prize pools to be 1% of their total budget, they'd need to be giving out $500,000 in total prize pool.
Grand total prize poor for SC2 in 2011: $170,000 dollars. So if prize pools for the other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars (and they may well be, MLG pays them way more per viewer than SC2), then MLG pays somewhere between 1-2% of their budget to prize pool.
If total prize pools for other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars, then MLG probably is paying less than 1% of their budget as prize pool.
Suck on math, bitches.
For the record, I hope MLG does well & raises their prize pools. And I plan to enjoy watching their tournament. But I'm not going to pretend SC2 pros aren't getting a raw deal for the second year in a row.
But if you want to support SC2 e-sports on a budget, watch the standard MLG stream and buy a computer peripheral from a sponsor of your favorite team. Sponsorships are why your favorite players show up to Anaheim. Are you saying that MLG is a 50 million dollar yearly business? Where can I see these numbers. Or are you assuming?
I did a google search and finally found a rumor about their 2010 budget, then increased it by an arbitrary amount because I heard on state of the game earlier in the year they had a larger budget than last year. So they're by NO means official numbers. But ok for a poorly-constructed ballpark.
Note: budget is not profit.
Edit: What Mayor said below (if your internet/monitor can handle the quality increase).
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The pass is a good deal, Sundance's request however, is quite unreasonable.
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!
LOL
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(assumption):I think they're counting on League of Legends community to make up for the rest of the subscriptions, since they're adding it to MLG by Raleigh (next month) and They show great numbers in Dreamhack. But I'm not sure if League of Legends community can deliver since they're new to subscriptions/membership viewing and they're mostly free to play community. I guess it might just be me being pessimistic but we'll see the result after the nationals.
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I don't think they will hit it, but I love how egocentric this community is. You guys do realize there are 2 other games at this event?????!?!?!?!
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On July 29 2011 14:43 udgnim wrote:
hope I end up being wrong, but I seriously doubt they'll reach the 100K figure
they had somewhere around 450K unique viewers for MLG Columbus
hopefully that number will grow to 500K+ for MLG Anaheim, but like others have said, most viewers will be willing to accept the free stream quality
if unique viewers were in the 1M+ range, then I could see the 100K membership figure being plausible
anyways, it's better to set lofty goals and start working towards them than being satisfied with mediocrity
As people said it benefits them either way since it will motivate people to buy a pass and when they don't get 100k they still probably got more than they would have and potentially not raise prize pool substantially.
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I don't think people realize that the MLG has been based on a tour system. The Nationals is where you pull in the big bucks. That's where the prize pool comes into play
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Canada340 Posts
Well if we can't make it this season then we'll try again the next and hopefully one day raise the prize pool... But for now this is a pretty tall order >.>
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Uh, yeah... Good luck with that.
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Maybe I will just as a donation as I'll still watch the standard quality. Bandwidth is so bad in Australia (at least for me) that only the low quality can be watched.
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@Tour/Main championship
I understand how MLG "works". However from the viewer perspective it is just another "major sc2 tournament".
MLG doesn't just get income from subscriptions: advertisement (@convention+stream), sponsorship, etc also fund the event.
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On July 29 2011 15:33 Hikari wrote:
@Tour/Main championship
I understand how MLG "works". However from the viewer perspective it is just another "major sc2 tournament".
MLG doesn't just get income from subscriptions: advertisement (@convention+stream), sponsorship, etc also fund the event.
Don't the players have to pay to register or am I crazy?
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Dont know how often i did read "When will MLG raise the Prizepool?"
Now Sundance kind of answered and everyone is annoyed.
Get over it, he just stated a fact. Noone is forced to buy anything.
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EPT
