[QUOTE]On July 29 2011 14:21 MisterFred wrote:
[QUOTE]
Is this a reasonable goal?[/QUOTE]

No. No it is not. Yes, MLG needs to increase their prize pools to be considered a genuine major in the line up of SC2 tournaments. QUOTE]

Problem is MLG is a circut so it's not an event once or twice a year.

Giving out 50k for 5-6 events is a shit to of money. Plus they have COD and HALO

Hikari

1914 Posts

July 29 2011 05:32 GMT

#26

Part of me received the message negatively: MLG KNOWS how strong the sc2 community is and what the prize pools of other leagues are like. They should have already voluntarily raised it to "standard levels" without asking for 100k purchases.

"I(f) we sell 100,000 memberships before the national championship I will raise the prize pool. A lot. Next season too."

"if we don't sell at least 100,000 memberships before the national championship I will not raise the prize pool."

Frastic

United States96 Posts

July 29 2011 05:35 GMT

#27

On July 29 2011 14:32 Hikari wrote:
Part of me received the message negatively: MLG KNOWS how strong the sc2 community is and what the prize pools of other leagues are like. They should have already voluntarily raised it to "standard levels" without asking for 100k purchases.

"I(f) we sell 100,000 memberships before the national championship I will raise the prize pool. A lot. Next season too."

"if we don't sell at least 100,000 memberships before the national championship I will not raise the prize pool."

Not only will he not raise the prize pool, he'll cut it, so that sounds more like a threat than anything else :/

zaii

Guam2611 Posts

July 29 2011 05:36 GMT

#28

No point in raising the prize pool if they don't have the budget for it.

TooN

1046 Posts

July 29 2011 05:36 GMT

#29

Its pretty expensive to host a three day event that includes other games. Don't think they are making a ridiculous amount of money.

Hikko

United States1126 Posts

July 29 2011 05:38 GMT

#30

On July 29 2011 14:30 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Did the free stream ever even top 100k viewers for Columbus? Seems to be a pretty ridiculous benchmark.

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2828/

22.5 million views, so probably over 100k actual viewers?

This is a dumb announcement. Like iNcontrol said, it's minuscule compared to the income he's asking for. I'd rather donate the money I'd spend to supporting my favorite player.

WoundedKite

United States17 Posts

July 29 2011 05:38 GMT

#31

Um... The prize pool for the national championship is pretty big already:

+ Show Spoiler +

National Championship (1) Event:

1st $50,000.00
2nd $25,000.00
3rd $15,000.00
4th $10,500.00
5th $7,500.00
6th $5,250.00
7th $3,750.00
8th $3,000.00

I think it's completely fair for him to say if they sell X memberships he'll raise that and next seasons... In fact, I find myself more likely to purchase a membership now.

MLG Columbus was an amazing event, if they put on a repeat performance of awesome at Anaheim this weekend, I'll gladly purchase.

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

July 29 2011 05:39 GMT

#32

Was the goal here to try and get more people to sign up?

Because this definitely isn't the way to go about it.

CosmicSpiral

United States15275 Posts

July 29 2011 05:39 GMT

#33

On July 29 2011 14:38 Hikko wrote:

Show nested quote +

Did you even read the comments below? Those numbers are enormously inflated.

ggblizz

1 Post

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#34

I'd really like a guarantee that this money is just going to sc2 not halo and cod.

MisterFred

United States2033 Posts

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#35

Ok, so we have a yearly budget of $50 million dollars a year, give or take $15 million. So for prize pools to be 1% of their total budget, they'd need to be giving out $500,000 in total prize pool.

Grand total prize pool for SC2 in 2011: $170,000 dollars. So if prize pools for the other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars (and they may well be, MLG pays them way more per viewer than SC2), then MLG pays somewhere between 1-2% of their budget to prize pool.

If total prize pools for other games combined are greater than $330,000 dollars, then MLG probably is paying less than 1% of their budget as prize pool.

Suck on math, bitches.

For the record, I hope MLG does well & raises their prize pools. And I plan to enjoy watching their tournament. Hell Sundance, worry not, I'll buy a few Dr. Peppers I wouldn't have. But I'm not going to pretend SC2 pros aren't getting a raw deal for the second year in a row. Edit: nor should the community demand companies give a certain % of their budget or profit to prize pools. But I still refuse to call $5,000 for first prize a major tournament. The championship will be a major tournament. This is a sponsor fest or minor circuit event. /Edit

But if you want to support SC2 e-sports on a budget, watch the standard MLG stream and buy a computer peripheral from a sponsor of your favorite team. Sponsorships are why your favorite players show up to Anaheim.

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#36

On July 29 2011 14:30 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Did the free stream ever even top 100k viewers for Columbus? Seems to be a pretty ridiculous benchmark.

You do realize that if a stream reaches 100 000 viewers live then the number of total viewers a A LOT higher?

zaii

Guam2611 Posts

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#37

If I remember correctly, MLG has been losing money for a long time. Only last year did they managed to profit, and after Dallas didn't sirscoots mentioned on twitter that MLG had to spend 2-3 million $ to fix the stream.

Nerski

United States1095 Posts

July 29 2011 05:40 GMT

#38

I think to significantly increase their prize pools (closer to like 25 to 50k) something like 100k memberships makes sense.

I think even if they fall short with SC2 clearly becoming the flagship game of the MLG and with sponsors galore it at least has to go up from where it is. I don't think it'd be reasonable 100k or not for it to not at least go up by 5 to 10k.

TooN

1046 Posts

July 29 2011 05:41 GMT

#39

After nationals they will go through their accounts and see the results of the years profit.

If the profit chart seems to be at a great increase, then they will make great changes with everything the next season.

It makes sense. 50,000 dollars for the nationals seems to be a great prize winner to me.

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

July 29 2011 05:43 GMT

#40

hope I end up being wrong, but I seriously doubt they'll reach the 100K figure

they had somewhere around 450K unique viewers for MLG Columbus

hopefully that number will grow to 500K+ for MLG Anaheim, but like others have said, most viewers will be willing to accept the free stream quality

if unique viewers were in the 1M+ range, then I could see the 100K membership figure being plausible

anyways, it's better to set lofty goals and start working towards them than being satisfied with mediocrity