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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
Also - 30 bucks for not having phrases like "STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNS!" imprinted in your brain forever, is an easy choice for me.. And yes, I would gladly pay that to having to juggle the two streams and muting them every time there is a commercial I have paid 110 dollars for Starcraft streams this month (GSL, GSTL and MLG) and I feel proud to say that I supported these organizations | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 29 2011 16:41 Disquiet wrote: Maybe, but they still give out much more money to halo and cod. thats because they are in teams wtf, Halo/Cod doesn't get more prize money then SC2. | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On July 29 2011 16:49 zaii wrote: thats because they are in teams wtf, Halo/Cod doesn't get more prize money then SC2. Halo/Cod players don't. Halo/Cod as a whole does. The whole is what is more important. | ||
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DtorR
Australia171 Posts
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
100k sounds rather arbitrary, but it paying members are a guaranteed audience. It'll help MLG find potential sponsors for future events, if anything else. That opens up a lot of doors for more "mainstream" forms of advertisement (outside of cheap internet advertising) which could potentially grow the prestige of e-sports through said advertisement. There's lots of reasons, but I'd say this is a good start. 100k is a great number to toss at for future marketing prospects. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 29 2011 16:51 JJH777 wrote: Halo/Cod players don't. Halo/Cod as a whole does. The whole is what is more important. they have to split the money which is equal to SC2. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10741 Posts
On July 29 2011 16:32 justinpal wrote: This is what TB is doing (granted he's not just asking for most of the money). I love him for that. In short: NO. In long: Not at all TB is using the money he gets from his streaming (and probably donations, if he gets some) to fund his tournament. MLG is asking to send them money/buy their product so they can increase the price pool and make more money themselves. TB is essentially "giving back" something (even if he makes profit with it, which I doubt). MLG is begging to send them money so they can use it in a future event to raise the pricepool (and earn more money in general). How is this the same? | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:13 Velr wrote: In short: NO. In long: Not at all TB is using the money he gets from his streaming (and probably donations, if he gets some) to fund his tournament. MLG is asking to send them money/buy their product so they can increase the price pool and make more money themselves. TB is essentially "giving back" something (even if he makes profit with it, which I doubt). MLG is begging to send them money so they can use it in a future event to raise the pricepool (and earn more money in general). How is this the same? MLG is giving an option to increase the prize pool earlier there what they're planning. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
Just to make a comment about prize pools being similar.. It shouldn't matter if they are a team sport or not. What matters is which bring more success. If Sc2 is getting the same draws as Halo then the prize pool needs to be the same. Does not matter if one person gets that $20K. That's just the nature of the eSport as it is played. Prize winnings for doubles in tennis aren't twice as large as singles. That's simply cause singles are the main event. | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:13 Velr wrote: In short: NO. In long: Not at all TB is using the money he gets from his streaming (and probably donations, if he gets some) to fund his tournament. MLG is asking to send them money/buy their product so they can increase the price pool and make more money themselves. TB is essentially "giving back" something (even if he makes profit with it, which I doubt). MLG is begging to send them money so they can use it in a future event to raise the pricepool (and earn more money in general). How is this the same? They're not asking for donations, they're selling a product. MLG has spent a lot of money to fix their stream and make the event amazing, I'm pretty sure they lost a lot of money this year. They probably need something to show to the people who invested in the company: here are the stream views, and here are the suscribers, your money has been wasted. It would suck for MLG to run into big financial troubles, so I understand why they need to prove their business model before the end of the year. However I think it's some bad PR, it gives the impression that MLG is greedy, sundance could have worded it better. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On July 29 2011 16:47 ELA wrote: Also - 30 bucks for not having phrases like "STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNS!" imprinted in your brain forever, is an easy choice for me.. And yes, I would gladly pay that to having to juggle the two streams and muting them every time there is a commercial I don't know, thinking about it afterwards, it really was a certain experience watching those commercials over and over again  But yeah, they really have to raise the cash for MLG. These tourneys(before end of the year) have such a low price pool, that the cost of going there must cost a fortune compared to it. Heck I'd guess the main reason progamers bother is not because of sponsors but rather because of the insanely fun atmosphere around MLG. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:13 Velr wrote: In short: NO. In long: Not at all TB is using the money he gets from his streaming (and probably donations, if he gets some) to fund his tournament. MLG is asking to send them money/buy their product so they can increase the price pool and make more money themselves. TB is essentially "giving back" something (even if he makes profit with it, which I doubt). MLG is begging to send them money so they can use it in a future event to raise the pricepool (and earn more money in general). How is this the same? Your post is meant to say In even longer: I guess. I believe during Shoutcraft he was describing how he got donations. I didn't say he was doing anything similiar to MLG at all. Just what I quoted. If you had read my post I said he's not asking for most of the money, which is the money he receives from streaming. I never said he made any profit. I was just implying what you stated that he takes what the community gives and gives it straight to the players. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:31 justinpal wrote: Your post is meant to say In even longer: I guess. I believe during Shoutcraft he was describing how he got donations. I didn't say he was doing anything similiar to MLG at all. Just what I quoted. If you had read my post I said he's not asking for most of the money, which is the money he receives from streaming. I never said he made any profit. I was just implying what you stated that he takes what the community gives and gives it straight to the players. I think you are forgetting the value that you get for the 30$ - Isn't that somewhat important as well?? I mean, people here are talking like they're just giving away 30 bucks.. You actually get a product for that money as well, don't forget *EDIT* Here's what you get for the 30 bucks: Access to HQ Pro Circuit Streams Ad Free Streams VoD HQ Rebroadcasts Premium Ladders and Tournaments Premium Support Official MLG Rank Members Only Forums Community Recognition Additional Customization Options Avatar treatment Discounts on MLG Products Discounts on Partner Products Discounts on Pro Circuit Passes 50% off Pass Transfer Frees Early Access to Pro Circuit Passes Early Access to the Venue for Pro Circuit Events | ||
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Fjolle
Denmark25 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:27 Bobster wrote: If you can't increase the prize pool budget, just take the money from the CoD and Halo circuits, ridiculous that they're getting anything close to the same amount of prize money per person when SC2 is the event that brings in the publicity, attention, people and as a result - the money. I guess that it's because when they decided on the prize pools the starcraft event was in a small dark corner of the venue while Halo/CoD were on the main stages. This has changed, and i assume that when they revise the prizes they will that it into account. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:37 ELA wrote: I think you are forgetting the value that you get for the 30$ - Isn't that somewhat important as well?? I mean, people here are talking like they're just giving away 30 bucks.. You actually get a product for that money as well, don't forget *EDIT* Here's what you get for the 30 bucks: Access to HQ Pro Circuit Streams Ad Free Streams VoD HQ Rebroadcasts Premium Ladders and Tournaments Premium Support Official MLG Rank Members Only Forums Community Recognition Additional Customization Options Avatar treatment Discounts on MLG Products Discounts on Partner Products Discounts on Pro Circuit Passes 50% off Pass Transfer Frees Early Access to Pro Circuit Passes Early Access to the Venue for Pro Circuit Events This. Its not like Sundance is just saying, hey give me $30 so I can raise the prize pool. MLG is giving you a product in return for that $30. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 29 2011 17:27 Bobster wrote: If you can't increase the prize pool budget, just take the money from the CoD and Halo circuits, ridiculous that they're getting anything close to the same amount of prize money per person when SC2 is the event that brings in the publicity, attention, people and as a result - the money. All the prizemoney from CoD is coming from SONY, and Halo always gets sold out. | ||
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