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sad312
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada56 Posts
July 29 2011 10:38 GMT
#141
lol is the silver good enough?
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 29 2011 10:48 GMT
#142
I'm already a gold member, got a deal as a old HQ pass customer.

15 bucks for a HQ, no ads stream the whole season? Yes, please. There are a lot of perks, but I don't care about anything else.

The dollar is low, so it is just win win.

And about the millions, camaros etc. 52 millions in total funds, 10 million extra Q1 from Legion and Oak investement Partners (Legion is run by MLGs co-founder/Chairman). MLG also owns Agora games, so I bet that the 52 million is not only going into running the events. Just look at the exec team, people like that doesn't work for free

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/mlg/executive

I hope they reach 100 000 members, silver and gold. The prize money should go up anyway.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2011 10:50 GMT
#143
They will raise the prizepool, I am certain of it. Even if they sell 0 memberships.
I got the gold membership already for a month. It is ridiculous cheap. Everybody should buy it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 29 2011 10:55 GMT
#144
Seem's like it was a joke tweet that people are taking seriously, esp with the 2nd one lol.

But seriously, you never have to hear WE CAN'T BE DEFEATED! ever again.

Forgot about that didn't you?
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BenW
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
July 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#145
On July 29 2011 17:13 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 16:32 justinpal wrote:
On July 29 2011 16:24 Velr wrote:
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!


It's really funny... I just came up with a business plan.


Everybody send me money, I will use some of it to create a tourney with a pricepool depending on how much money you give me...

Before you decline, think twice. Not sending me money, is hurting ESPORTS!


This is what TB is doing (granted he's not just asking for most of the money). I love him for that.



In short: NO.

In long: Not at all

TB is using the money he gets from his streaming (and probably donations, if he gets some) to fund his tournament.
MLG is asking to send them money/buy their product so they can increase the price pool and make more money themselves.

TB is essentially "giving back" something (even if he makes profit with it, which I doubt).
MLG is begging to send them money so they can use it in a future event to raise the pricepool (and earn more money in general).

How is this the same?


How does MLG make more money by effectively donating their MLG membership fees to prize pots?
King of Kings
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany481 Posts
July 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#146
On July 29 2011 19:50 Koshi wrote:
They will raise the prizepool, I am certain of it. Even if they sell 0 memberships.
I got the gold membership already for a month. It is ridiculous cheap. Everybody should buy it.


Yep, they need to if they want to push their SC2 Tourneys. But at the end they need to make a profit.
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hjkim1304
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)105 Posts
July 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#147
im little wary of his attitude saying that if we don't buy it, they'll decrease it? it just seems as though he's indirectly threatening us to buy the membership... Last time I heard, sc2 and its community brought mlg out of deficit....
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 29 2011 10:59 GMT
#148
On July 29 2011 19:48 Jiddra wrote:
I'm already a gold member, got a deal as a old HQ pass customer.

15 bucks for a HQ, no ads stream the whole season? Yes, please. There are a lot of perks, but I don't care about anything else.

The dollar is low, so it is just win win.

And about the millions, camaros etc. 52 millions in total funds, 10 million extra Q1 from Legion and Oak investement Partners (Legion is run by MLGs co-founder/Chairman). MLG also owns Agora games, so I bet that the 52 million is not only going into running the events. Just look at the exec team, people like that doesn't work for free

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/mlg/executive

I hope they reach 100 000 members, silver and gold. The prize money should go up anyway.

yeah, that was my point. I understand where he's coming from since a good portion goes into the production, and by all means i would love MLG to achieve this goal.

But regardless of whether on not they meet this number, the pros deserve a bigger prize pool, they are a huge part to it's success (even the core of why it works) and since MLG has grown greatly because of them give back regardless
durbarak
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria54 Posts
July 29 2011 11:03 GMT
#149
To everybody that mentioned $50 million:

In December 2010 MLG raised $10 million from investors. This brought MLG's total funding to $52.5 millions(since its foundation in 2002).
source

As you can see these $50 million have nothing to do with bankroll or the 2011 budget. Unless you provide sources, stop throwing around random numbers.
"Oh, I see sth." "What did he build?" "He built a CIRCLE!"
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
July 29 2011 11:03 GMT
#150
I was considering buying it.
After this.. No way
no dude, the question
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:05:39
July 29 2011 11:04 GMT
#151
On July 29 2011 19:56 hjkim1304 wrote:
im little wary of his attitude saying that if we don't buy it, they'll decrease it? it just seems as though he's indirectly threatening us to buy the membership... Last time I heard, sc2 and its community brought mlg out of deficit....

It is a joke... They will raise the prize pool even if they sell 25 000 tickets.
The finals this year will have a 50.000$ first place. Impressive already. Total of 120 000 dollar prize pool.
I had a good night of sleep.
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
July 29 2011 11:45 GMT
#152
On July 29 2011 18:29 JoFritzMD wrote:
My favourite part is that it doesn't matter what the prize pool is. They could be playing for free and we would all still watch and the pro's would still go.

Why will we watch? Because it's a great event. All of the worlds top players are there. It is THE competition to win.

Why will the pros go? Because it is great publicity for their sponsors and it has, as I mentioned above, the greatest competition in terms of who is there.

I looked at the Championship Bracket this year and in half of the groups there is no one player who is above the rest. In the groups that you do have a player who is clearly better, the second spot is a toss up between everyone in the group.

Then you look at the Open Bracket and I cry when I think about how many great players aren't able to get through just because of how few open spots there are.

I couldn't care less what Sundance did. He could drive through the streets of LA in a lamborghini throwing money out of the window as he laughed at the people who spent 30$ so they didn't have to see ads and could make out the supply count. I would still watch it. I would still pay my 30$ and I'm pretty sure 90% of the other people who pay for the HD stream would do the same.


You have absolutely no clue how these things work. The prizepool is EVERYTHING. The reason Dreamhack is big? The prizepool. The reason GSL is big? The prizepool.

The prizepool says all about an event's class. The bigger sponsors -> the bigger prizepool -> the bigger the event. Players (Like MMA, DRG, IdrA, HuK, Naniwa) wouldn't show up to MLG like this if the prizes were 1 dollar for 1st place, 0 for second. Even if the event was as big as now.

Yes, it's a chance for sponsors to show up, but we as spectators get even more into the tournaments, when the prizes are big. And so do the players.

Even with their salaries, it's still a nice catch that you make 5K extra pocketmoney for winning. Or even a % as that amount if some such is contracted.

Talking about eSports exisiting without prizemoney, is like saying you could have huge pokertournaments without prizemoney.
Flaf?
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#153
Well it seems like completely reasonable thing to say to me. They already pay shitton of money over a year on prizes so if people want more, they may aswell contribute.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 29 2011 11:53 GMT
#154
On July 29 2011 20:45 Jamial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 18:29 JoFritzMD wrote:
My favourite part is that it doesn't matter what the prize pool is. They could be playing for free and we would all still watch and the pro's would still go.

Why will we watch? Because it's a great event. All of the worlds top players are there. It is THE competition to win.

Why will the pros go? Because it is great publicity for their sponsors and it has, as I mentioned above, the greatest competition in terms of who is there.

I looked at the Championship Bracket this year and in half of the groups there is no one player who is above the rest. In the groups that you do have a player who is clearly better, the second spot is a toss up between everyone in the group.

Then you look at the Open Bracket and I cry when I think about how many great players aren't able to get through just because of how few open spots there are.

I couldn't care less what Sundance did. He could drive through the streets of LA in a lamborghini throwing money out of the window as he laughed at the people who spent 30$ so they didn't have to see ads and could make out the supply count. I would still watch it. I would still pay my 30$ and I'm pretty sure 90% of the other people who pay for the HD stream would do the same.


You have absolutely no clue how these things work. The prizepool is EVERYTHING. The reason Dreamhack is big? The prizepool. The reason GSL is big? The prizepool.

The prizepool says all about an event's class. The bigger sponsors -> the bigger prizepool -> the bigger the event. Players (Like MMA, DRG, IdrA, HuK, Naniwa) wouldn't show up to MLG like this if the prizes were 1 dollar for 1st place, 0 for second. Even if the event was as big as now.

Yes, it's a chance for sponsors to show up, but we as spectators get even more into the tournaments, when the prizes are big. And so do the players.

Even with their salaries, it's still a nice catch that you make 5K extra pocketmoney for winning. Or even a % as that amount if some such is contracted.

Talking about eSports exisiting without prizemoney, is like saying you could have huge pokertournaments without prizemoney.


-.- You are completely and utterly wrong.

The reason MLG is so big, is because of the huge amounts of media/coverage. It's at these events, that sponsors are getting their money back, and then some.

Pricepool everything? NO! Get your facts straight!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
July 29 2011 11:54 GMT
#155
MLG Columbus was worth $30 of entertainment. Anything after that is just gravy.

You earned your money, MLG. Here's my $30 for the gold membership. I don't even watch streams in HD.

For ESPORTS.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:55:39
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#156
On July 29 2011 20:03 ZaaaaaM wrote:
I was considering buying it.
After this.. No way

Seriously? I really want to know what thoughts went through your head making that decision.

"Whaaaaaat ? They give more money to the players when they get more money? They should sell their houses to give the players all the money!!!11" ... I hope it's nothing like this, but this comes to my mind when I read your post.

I really don't understand how people can think negative about this.
It's perfect business sense that we experience here.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 29 2011 11:57 GMT
#157
On July 29 2011 20:55 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 20:03 ZaaaaaM wrote:
I was considering buying it.
After this.. No way

Seriously? I really want to know what thoughts went through your head making that decision.

"Whaaaaaat ? They give more money to the players when they get more money? They should sell their houses to give the players all the money!!!11" ... I hope it's nothing like this, but this comes to my mind when I read your post.

I really don't understand how people can think negative about this.
It's perfect business sense that we experience here.


He's just trolling.. He wasn't gonna buy it anyway - Don't bite, it's not worh the discussion
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Theo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
July 29 2011 11:58 GMT
#158
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!


What a hypocrite, he cried so much about people flaming NASL and then comes right back does it to another organization.

Frog? No. HIPPO
Garfunko
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada121 Posts
July 29 2011 11:59 GMT
#159
Some people are in the mindset that they should have the best players fly in across the world every event and watch the stream for free in HD with no ads ..just because...!?

These types of people are hurting esports by not supporting them, and have to move out of mamas basement and live in the real world for a change. Everything cost money, and if you wanna keep seeing more sc2 events of this high quality, you gotta support it man, just common sense really.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 29 2011 12:00 GMT
#160
On July 29 2011 20:58 Theo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing!


What a hypocrite, he cried so much about people flaming NASL and then comes right back does it to another organization.


what? he has a valid point. memberships will give them a shit ton of money, seems obvious they would raise prize pool.
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