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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:00 L3g3nd_ wrote: what? he has a valid point. memberships will give them a shit ton of money, seems obvious they would raise prize pool. No he has a point. Incontrol was real quick to knock the TL staff for criticizing the NASL. Saying something along the lines that organizers of another tournament shouldn't publicly criticize other tournaments. | ||
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Garfunko
Canada121 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:05 Garfunko wrote: I don't think the TL staff said anything that harsh about NASL, trial 1. The truth hurts, but I mean this was NASL's first tourney, so you cant expect TSL 3 or DreamHack experience / performance either. The criticism was based on Liquid'Ret going out overall no#1 from groupplay being seeded against the #1 out of the korean-stacked openbracket in first round (Open bracket champ was ofc. Puma who eliminated Ret and won the event) This is totally unrelated though, lets stay on topic | ||
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Good1
Russian Federation138 Posts
You must ask yourself only 1 thing: Is the product worth the money? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10991 Posts
On July 29 2011 20:59 Garfunko wrote: Some people are in the mindset that they should have the best players fly in across the world every event and watch the stream for free in HD with no ads ..just because...!? These types of people are hurting esports by not supporting them, and have to move out of mamas basement and live in the real world for a change. Everything cost money, and if you wanna keep seeing more sc2 events of this high quality, you gotta support it man, just common sense really. No one said anything like that. The "problem" with the statement for me is I read it like: "Pay us 30$ or we will keep our kinda low pricepool" I mean? WTF? I most probably won't buy it anyway (and never said I would), but that’s because I can't watch the whole thing anyway. I don't care about adds and the quality on the free stream was "ok" (last time I saw it, which is some time ago  )... If I buy it, I will do it spontaneous while the event is running... In advance whiteout even knowing if MLG will fuck it up again? Not a chance... The "give us money for bigger pricepool" just feels dikish to me.Btw1: ROFL for your "HURTING ESPORTS" comment... rofl.. Btw2: 30$ seems pretty expensive? I doubt this will entertain me more than the Homestory Cup (which I bought for HD) and costs 6 times more? | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:15 Velr wrote: No one said anything like that. The "problem" with the statement for me is I read it like: "Pay us 30$ or we will keep our kinda low pricepool" I mean? WTF? I most probably won't buy it anyway (and never said I would), but that’s because I most can't watch the whole thing anyway. I don't care about adds and the quality on the free stream was "ok" (last time I saw it, which is some time ago )... If I buy it, I will do it spontaneous because while the event is running... In advance whiteout even knowing if MLG will fuck it up again? Not a chance... The "give us money for bigger pricepool" just feels dikish to me.Btw1: ROFL for your "HURTING ESPORTS" comment... rofl.. Btw2: 30$ seems pretty expensive? I doubt this will entertain me more than the Homestory Cup (which I bought for HD) and costs 6 times more? You do realise that you don't have to buy the 30$ pass to be a member? | ||
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Riskr
Germany403 Posts
God bless America  | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
Also if you buy one now, you will have 3 HQ streams (Anaheim, Raleigh and Orlando), so that is like 3.33$ for one event. Quite good price if you ask me.... | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On July 29 2011 14:20 iNcontroL wrote: Uhhh if you give me a million dollars I will raise the prizepool??? Wow! That is amazing! Why do you always talk like that? Like your texts wouldn't be scrutinized? Just curious... doesn't always put you in good light. | ||
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Coolwhip
927 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:15 Velr wrote: No one said anything like that. The "problem" with the statement for me is I read it like: "Pay us 30$ or we will keep our kinda low pricepool" I mean? WTF? I most probably won't buy it anyway (and never said I would), but that’s because I can't watch the whole thing anyway. I don't care about adds and the quality on the free stream was "ok" (last time I saw it, which is some time ago )... If I buy it, I will do it spontaneous while the event is running... In advance whiteout even knowing if MLG will fuck it up again? Not a chance... The "give us money for bigger pricepool" just feels dikish to me.Btw1: ROFL for your "HURTING ESPORTS" comment... rofl.. Btw2: 30$ seems pretty expensive? I doubt this will entertain me more than the Homestory Cup (which I bought for HD) and costs 6 times more? You also realise that it costs 6 times as more because you get 6 times the content? Its not only $30 for one MLG, its for the year | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On July 29 2011 14:21 MisterFred wrote: No. No it is not. Yes, MLG needs to increase their prize pools to be considered a genuine major in the line up of SC2 tournaments. No, more memberships are not going to give them the desperately needed cash to do that. Prize pools are probably less than 1% of their budget. Miniscule. Edit: what InControl said. I'll go further and address Sundance myself: dick move. Yea what a Dick, provide the best tournaments in North America. You could do the NASL thing and throw money at people and HOPE that the product measures up. You could do the MLG thing of laying down a solid foundation and growing steadily. They've got all the best players coming. No one is not coming because the prize pool is too low. Just because a few fringe players want 10th place to be worth a few more bucks, doesn't warrant risk the stability of the best eSports league that NA has going. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:22 Krehlmar wrote: 100 000 members is a dreamgoal, not going to happen imo Why do you always talk like that? Like your texts wouldn't be scrutinized? Just curious... doesn't always put you in good light. Foot in mouth disease. | ||
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:15 Velr wrote: No one said anything like that. The "problem" with the statement for me is I read it like: "Pay us 30$ or we will keep our kinda low pricepool" I mean? WTF? I most probably won't buy it anyway (and never said I would), but that’s because I can't watch the whole thing anyway. I don't care about adds and the quality on the free stream was "ok" (last time I saw it, which is some time ago )... If I buy it, I will do it spontaneous while the event is running... In advance whiteout even knowing if MLG will fuck it up again? Not a chance... The "give us money for bigger pricepool" just feels dikish to me.Btw1: ROFL for your "HURTING ESPORTS" comment... rofl.. Btw2: 30$ seems pretty expensive? I doubt this will entertain me more than the Homestory Cup (which I bought for HD) and costs 6 times more? Well, you are reading the statement wrong...it says that if we buy 100k passes, they will increase prize pool, it says nothing about what happens if we don't buy the passes. | ||
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TooN
1046 Posts
MLG will profit. Players will profit. People buying the membership will get the perks. Who loses? Why are people so outraged by the idea of it. To Incontrol: Why are you always quick to criticize everything. You always complain about how posters flame you and stuff and you wonder why. Just practice, show up at tourneys, and try to win. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On July 29 2011 21:26 RoyalCheese wrote: Well, you are reading the statement wrong...it says that if we buy 100k passes, they will increase prize pool, it says nothing about what happens if we don't buy the passes. "UPDATE Sorry I was reading through his twitter and saw a guy tweet Sundance saying that number is way too high. Sundance replied with the following: Sundance wrote: "if that number is to high than I need to cut prize money next year."" | ||
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