EG signs PuMa, responds to criticism - Page 58

In the case of TSL, the only reason we did not speak with Mr. Lee first is that it was established between EG and PuMa, in our very first conversation, that - if he eventually decided he was interested in joining EG - he felt that the best first step (read: *first* step) to take would be for him to personally bring the issue to his coach. And then, after that initial conversation, EG's management could be put in touch with TSL's management. So, that's the path we took. PuMa brought up the issue with Mr. Lee, and their talk went well. And we were still waiting to speak with PuMa (to be briefed on the conversation, and also to get the next step of the process in motion - namely, EG being put in touch with Mr. Lee), when Mr. Lee went to the press. And then, as you all know, this became a massive public issue, literally, overnight. Mr. Lee went to the press so fast, in fact, that the news broke before we'd even been able to speak with PuMa, let alone arrange a meeting with Mr. Lee. EG actually only found out the details of PuMa and Mr. Lee's conversation (namely, that it was very friendly), well after the news was already published.

On July 27 2011 00:27 traxdatacd wrote:
in proffesional football (soccer) the rule is that u have to speak to the management FIRST.
than if they agree u can offer terms to the player.
if the rule is broken there are severe penaltys.

On July 27 2011 01:38 originalred04 wrote:
Thank you EG for making SC2 more viable for the long term

On July 27 2011 01:36 dampv wrote:


While this is true, do you really think that it is adhered to? Take the Ronaldo to Madrid saga and the more recent Fabregas to Barcelona, do you really believe Madrid/Barca didn't make contact with the players or their agents before they made an official bid to the respective clubs? I'm pretty damn sure they did, besides agents and clubs talk all the time. And as mentioned, these players are under contract, paid millions each year and there are bodies governing the sport, and even with these safeguards there are still players being tapped up.

In this case a player without contract was contacted by another organisation, that would have been legal in any sport. I fail to see how the coach of TSL (is that TheMarine by the way?) is a representative of PuMa, EG did nothing wrong here as far as I can see.

On July 27 2011 01:38 originalred04 wrote:
@Fermats_last

In any major sport the stars usually end up in the major cities of that sport. Football, Futball, Baseball, Basketball etc small market teams thriving is the exception to the rule, not the rule. Those sports are viable because of the large markets, in this case TL, EG, OGS, Slayers etc.

Thank you EG for making SC2 more viable for the long term

On July 27 2011 01:48 Fermats_last wrote:


This works if EG was 'a big city' of good players. Rather than 'a big city' of mediocre players with virtually no recent results aside from Idra. They didn't even get into the play offs in their purely foreigner team leage, where TL OGS Slayers weren't even present. TSL has players infinitely better than Incontrol, Axslav, StrifeCro, etc. They just aren't lucky enough to have the sponsorship YET.

On July 27 2011 01:48 Fermats_last wrote:
I.E taking Beckham from his local team to Manchester United is good because it will improve his skill as the team is better at Man U than his local team. But taking Beckham from A team full of talent to a team with little talent but lot's of money is a bad move as it won't improve his skill in any way.

On July 27 2011 01:52 Grimsong wrote:


Big city is big city, regardless of wins/losses.

The Lakers struggled in the mid 2000's, were they not a big city still? Did they not still generate more revenue than the majority of those small market teams that are more or less dead end. When it comes to marketting and potential profits, is a player best of in an obscure market (IE Milwaukee Bucks), or in a booming market (IE Los Angeles Lakers)? Similarly, regardless of results, EG has a pretty large pull/swing in the E-Sports scene. Don't think they have influence? Check out the other 500 or so pages between all of these separate threads that have sprung up.

On July 27 2011 01:49 Torumfroll wrote:
"Hello we have expressed our interest in player X. Even though hes not contracted to your team we felt the need to contact you since he is a part of your team/organization. Blah Blah..."
Showing a little respect is THAT hard. EG should have recognized TSL as an entity and not try to go through with something like this behind their backs. Yeah, Puma was supposed to talk to the coach, but they should have made an effort to speak with him as well, regardless of how Puma perceived how his talk with the coach went.

The Milkis thing is just ridiculous on their part. Milkis has no obligations towards anyone except himself on this forum, since as far as I know he is not a TL.net staff member. He translates because he enjoys contributing to the community, because there is a lot of interesting stuff to read on korean sites. Milkis is not a journalist and a forum post should not be a subject to journalistic rules and ethics, unless justified. He did make an effort to get a statement from EG, and they weren't interested in giving one at that time. Tough luck.