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just wait for DotA 2 it's going to have a UI that will make you cream your pants and it SHOULD force Blizzard into actually putting work into b.net interface
stuff like dota tv, able to join any game as a spectator and watch the game in progress as it happens (supports thousands of spectators and a delay) will have built in tournaments, if you want to run a tournament you need only click a button, people can register and play, brackets are updated all inside the games UI.
it will make b.net look awful in comparison and i cannot wait.
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On July 18 2011 19:19 Joseph123 wrote: Blizzard don't care guys.. You should've realized that by now..
Are we talking about the same blizzard? Because the Blizzard I know made the greatest games I've played, and they do seem to care a whole lot.
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Rematch ideas promote trading points.
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Some good points here. As far as voice goes thou, many games implement voice chat but it is so horrible that people use external programs anyway (big example being wow). They might just have not wanted to waste time on it if it was not going to get used anyway.
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On July 18 2011 19:23 Stromming wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:19 Joseph123 wrote: Blizzard don't care guys.. You should've realized that by now.. Are we talking about the same blizzard? Because the Blizzard I know made the greatest games I've played, and they do seem to care a whole lot.
It's the blizzard owned by Activision we're talking about.
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On July 18 2011 20:41 simansh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 19:23 Stromming wrote:On July 18 2011 19:19 Joseph123 wrote: Blizzard don't care guys.. You should've realized that by now.. Are we talking about the same blizzard? Because the Blizzard I know made the greatest games I've played, and they do seem to care a whole lot. It's the blizzard owned by Activision we're talking about.
Blizzard has always and, at least for the foreseeable future, will always make amazing games, that's why, although people on here bitch constantly about Blizzard's shortcomings, they all have at least bought this game and I would venture to say at least one or two more.
Blizzard is a business and cares first and foremost about making money. If you're going to tell a billion dollar company that 'if you do X to a game, then 100% of customers will be annoyed; however, they will all still buy this game and 50% more customers will also buy the game,' that's what the company is going to do. You buying their games is a business deal, not a friendship pact. They want money, and if something they do to piss off customers starts costing them money, you bet your ass they'll change their ways.
That being said, you're forgetting that Blizzard has shown time and time again that they value their customers and they do realize who gives them their money, they've also shown that they do keep tabs on the community and are aware of what's being said about their actions. For proof, look at their April Fool's Patches 4.1.XX for SC2 and WoW. They address problems, obviously jokingly, that the community doesn't think they know about.
Just keep in mind when you guys are bitching about the small inconveniences of BNet 2.0 that this is the company that has made The Warcraft RTS series, Dota, which although not Blizzard in any way, is a new fucking genre that would never have happened without WC3:TFT's map editor and heroes (also, Dota 2 is on the way, and that IS a result of Blizzard), World of Warcraft, SC:BW, Diablo series, and they game we all love, SC2. Trust them when they say shit will get fixed, or that it will be better, because, although it will take 2 years longer than the original release date, it will come out.
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Agree with everything in the OP. I really think that wc3 (and sc:bw to a degree) have a supperior bnet user interface and functionallity. SC2's user interface seems dumbed down a lot. Many shinny stars and icons, achievements points and whole menus dedicated to you playing 5000 games vs a computer and get a REWARD achievement and put it in your showcase -_-
Chat channels are a fail... with the tiny windows(I know you can make them bigger but still) looking like an open notepad and no admin features. Lack of clantags as mentioned ... (sad).
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this is the best post on tl in the last month or two
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alot of the features, like clan support and tournament support, have already been vaguely talked about by blizzard, so they're probably working on them in some capacity. My guess is that we won't see any of these features until HotS is released though.
but yeah, totally agree with everything you said. all of these things need to happen
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On July 18 2011 14:40 LinGz wrote: 3. Diary Battle.Net tournament and Clan Wars sponsored by Blizzard inside Battle.net About the tournaments Some people use this game for play for fun and others for competitive, tournaments inside battle.net is something so competitive and great… in WC3 Battle.net u can see automated tournaments every single day… we can see 1vs1, 2vs2, 3vs3 and 4vs4 tournaments believe it or not that’s makes you play more and stay more in battle.net… cause is feeling great being part of those tournaments to test your skill.
Blizzard should look to Funcom's Bloodline Champions to see how an ingame tournament system is done. Its brilliant, as you won't have to look thought 100 different websites to find a tourney for you (Thank god for the TL tracker).
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On July 18 2011 19:23 MavercK wrote: just wait for DotA 2 it's going to have a UI that will make you cream your pants and it SHOULD force Blizzard into actually putting work into b.net interface
stuff like dota tv, able to join any game as a spectator and watch the game in progress as it happens (supports thousands of spectators and a delay) will have built in tournaments, if you want to run a tournament you need only click a button, people can register and play, brackets are updated all inside the games UI.
it will make b.net look awful in comparison and i cannot wait.
This. One thing that really gets me hyped up about DotA2 is that they just get it, they know what a good platform needs and they plan to bring it. To mention some extra things that DotA2 will have that Blizzard aren't even dreaming of is an advanced reconnect system, in-game coaching system, live observing and replay editing (add commentary to your replays, point out things etc etc).
I don't care if blizzard just copy+pastes these features, in fact, I hope they do.
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Battle.net 2.0 is fail.
The one thing I don't understand is how fast they put in chat channels after everyone bitched for months and now everyone is bitching for name change and clan support and its not being put in.
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Blizzard will only change things if its in their best interest profit-wise. They could not give an ounce of care about what the people playing their game want.
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Turn it into a petition or something. Seriously, if enough people just back it up, Blizzard will have to at least answer to it.
Change doesn't pass over one day, the changes they've made with b.net and chat rooms might seem enough to them. To me it's not enough, but Blizzard probably thinks the discussion is over.
I hereby sign a eventual petition if the points from the op don't change!
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Why do people want the chat do use the full window? Do you want to go back to only being allowed in one channel at a time?
I'd love it actually if bnet chat would be just a frontend for IRC where you can also login with any IRC client and your bnet credentials without having to start up the game.
Other than that, BNet is not really that bad imho, it's different but it's ok, it does exactly the things i need it to do.
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On July 18 2011 21:43 Morfildur wrote: Why do people want the chat do use the full window? Do you want to go back to only being allowed in one channel at a time?
Full windows + tabs is possible you know !
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Will blizzard take the time to do all this or are they too busy creating the campaign for HoTS? They've already promised to add in watch replay together. Dunno about anything else.
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How about being able to know how many players are actually in a custom game lobby, instead of having a stupid popularity bar beside the game, which i dont think anyone actually pays attention to. If i can see that someone is waiting in a lobby for tal darim altar, then maybe i wont have to play xel naga caverns every fucking warm up game
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