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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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he's banned but there's more than one or two ways to get onto the site
more than 'hurting' his feelings with words about his attitude, i believe in people who have a philosophy on the lines of, 'it's better to wrong than to be wronged', and Dox seems to be that way
it's taking the heat, and sharing responsibility for someone you know to be in the wrong
of course, there are rules-somewhat like with kespa-that are created solely because of something not predicted, or in this case trust that was abused
i haven't even heard of majOr before SC2, but he seemed like a solid/strong player with good sense
making several 'mistakes' at once and trying to bully a tournament admin at the same time?
that's straight up attitude
i wouldn't even know how to begin trying to help him out
but goodluck with that sixjax and friends :/...
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I don't particularly care, still a fan of his play 
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i really want to like major, but shit like this kind of screws that up
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On July 18 2011 13:00 nalgene wrote:
He just participated in a tournament when the rules weren't definitive as they should have been until at a later point in time. How'd they get "cheated" anyways if they were going to lose in those games?
This was a tournament clearly for SEA players. Major is not a SEA player. You can argue semantics if you'd like but you know that this is the truth, plain and simple.
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If Major wants to respond he can just borrow a diamond players tl account
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On July 18 2011 13:11 .Aar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 13:00 nalgene wrote:
He just participated in a tournament when the rules weren't definitive as they should have been until at a later point in time. How'd they get "cheated" anyways if they were going to lose in those games? This was a tournament clearly for SEA players. Major is not a SEA player. You can argue semantics if you'd like but you know that this is the truth, plain and simple.
Also Major contacted an admin who specifically told him that he could not play.
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On July 18 2011 13:00 nalgene wrote:
He just participated in a tournament when the rules weren't definitive as they should have been until at a later point in time. How'd they get "cheated" anyways if they were going to lose in those games?
If the original account holder was actually the person playing, I can guarantee you those players would not have been eliminated by him. I really don't see how this is so confusing to you.
If you were playing in a tournament against a Diamond League player who actually had Liquid`HuK playing on his account, wouldn't you feel cheated?
You're also failing to recognise he participated in a tournament (ON SOMEONE ELSE'S ACCOUNT) 5 days after he was told he was not an eligible participant.
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Wow, obviously this isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but still embarrassing for the people involved (or anyone related to them).
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Gosi terran child's tantrum continues
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On July 18 2011 13:01 ThaZenith wrote:The people saying "omg ima hate Artosis now" sound kind of dumb to me. Unless you can somehow prove he was in on this, lol. This definitely makes Major a failure, but Artosis is as awesome as ever. 
Yea I don't wanna see Artosis dragged through the muck over this. I mean if he was hiring hostage negotiators, it might matter. Major however is 18 years old and he probably expected him to mature.
For others saying it's not a big deal, remember that Major knocked out a ton of people who felt cheated. It's not just that he was a smurfing pro-gamer, but that he was literally not supposed to be in the tournament, so several people are asking themselves, "what if?"
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On July 18 2011 13:16 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Wow, obviously this isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but still embarrassing for the people involved (or anyone related to them).
Sick of this "SEA doesn't matter" attitude.
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On July 18 2011 12:52 Dox wrote:
If anyone is looking to hear the story from MajOr's side, there are screenshots of our chat posted in this thread. It's quite clear that his motivation was, "ur being a fag."
If you go this route I have to play devil's advocate:
He said "u made me buy an account" in the same "sentence" with the fag thing.
And then I'd like to have to the see conversation log/screenshot between Major & deL 5days prior to the event.
The screenshotted conversations took place between you & Major ~15min before the event (according to your post) or later on the the smurf acc.
Looking at page2 of the sc2sea forum I only see the quote from deL "MajOr had specifically asked Dox and myself about playing in the event and we had both made it very clear he is ineligible."
Looking at the tournament requirements (which didnt include the citizenship multiply times) I wouldnt completely rule out that deL only stated the rules to Major saying "SEA Account". Which would make Major inelegible according to the rules but might give Major the impression that, if he had a SEA acc, he could participate.
As long as there's no log / screen of the Major / deL conversation (or both saying something) you cannot rule out the possibility that deL made a (human) error and told Major the wrong thing "You're not elegible look at the rules man!"
Back from devil's advocate and arguing against myself:
Even if this would be true - it would still be against the rules. It might explain Major's language (someone just told you you could participate if you fulfill a certain condition but after paying money for that you couldnt) but wouldnt make him elegible to enter the tournament. Especially after the screenshotted conversation (btw the tournament doesnt have a "you cannot use another ones account" rule - which is quite common if you look at i.e. DH and other tournaments (MKP playing as ZephyrPrime)).
But considering Major's notoriety... well 
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Almost all the people saying that this wasn't a big deal, only saying that because it happened in SEA.
What if he did it in a tournament in NA or EU. Would it be a big deal then?
Doesn't matter where it happens, He broke tournament rules and deserves backlash for it.
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Thanks for letting us know. I'll know to never cheer for him (not that I've had any reason to so far).
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Can't say i didn't see something like this coming
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
this isn't really a big deal, it's only SEA. Major is better than everyone who competed anyway.
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On July 18 2011 12:51 Dox wrote:I'm currently working very closely with a range of partners to grow the SEA scene, and if all goes as planned, by this time next year we'll see those efforts culminate into an "MLG Circuit" of our own.
Damn, thats so awesome.
Keep it up man!
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In my opinion not the most serious of offenses but it definitely still requires some sort of retribution.
Not much of a surprise I suppose. He's always been a very talented and hardworking player but is exceedingly immature. I just hope he learns from whatever punishment he receives because I believe that he could be a strong contender in the foreign scene and could do very well with Korean-style training.
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ultra bm, stubborn as hell, full of lies, and homophobic?
Major takes the cake for douche move of the week
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EPT
