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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.

Leave the racial bias at the door while you are at it as well pretty please.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
July 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#261
It was a comp FOR SEA, not so US smurfs can come and cheat us out of our own money.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
July 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#262
"cause your being a fag" That made me chuckle. Oh Juan... : (
Wishing you well.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 18 2011 04:38 GMT
#263
On July 18 2011 13:37 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:03 Kiarip wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:54 Probe1 wrote:
Just don't invite sixjaxMajor.

I read the chat log screen shots, the forum posts and anything else posted here and I've come to the conclusion that Major really is a dick. Fuck him.

Even if he apologizes. No no no, fuck him.


On July 18 2011 12:52 moltenlead wrote:
I don't see what the massive discussion is about.


The most common thing I've read is people saying "fuck him". Having a massive thread is good. It gives the tournament good exposure and lets more people know that sixjax was beyond reprehensible.


Kid wanted to play.
Kid found an account even through it was a smurf.
Kid played and did not win money.

Don't see the issue. Even if he did win and took the money who the hell cares unless this is a tournament made to support the Code B players of the SEA region.


Are you stupid? He doesn't qualify to be in the tournament. He got disqualified luckily before he actually won it (assuming he would.)

It's a big deal, because the tournament is trying to support the SEA scene.


I don't care if he qualifies or not lol. And for you to insinuate that I am stupid because I don't care if players follow a tournaments rules then you should probably brush up on what reasonable logic is. I wish he had won it and had the cash in his pocket I see no reason to give $500 to a worse player just because the other guy lives elsewhere. Developing the SEA scene isn't that important lol.

So basically you lack empathy?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 18 2011 04:39 GMT
#264
On July 18 2011 13:35 reneg wrote:
That's ridiculous.
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I'm glad you were able to catch him before he won the whole thing. it's a shame he wasn't caught earlier, but i mean, i can understand how something like that would go unnoticed for a few rounds.

Hopefully you'll continue to have fantastic major tournaments and people like major won't crap all over them by specifically breaking tournament rules.

Best of luck

Edit:

On July 18 2011 13:35 Probe1 wrote:
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On July 18 2011 13:32 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Hopefully sixjax punishes him somehow. This really makes them all look bad.


I don't recognize Major's actions reflecting unto sixjax. Perhaps to others it will but I don't want to blame Artosis or anyone else for the actions of an individual - or even call for his dismissal from the team.

I only vote with my viewership to not support Majors stream any more.



At some point, you have to view major as part of an organization, and even though he was acting on his own (theoretically), the organization should take SOME sort of stance on the issue. It's one of their players afterall.

Teams are basically putting their stamp of approval on players, and when one of them cuts up and does something wrong, it speaks for the entire team. While it might not be the stance of the team, it's extremely difficult for them to be able to distance themselves from it.


The real heart of what I'm saying comes from evoli's post. They won't care. If I get pissed at them it won't make a difference. Should they stop embarrassing Western players? Yes. If this behavior continues to emanate from the team will they lose respect? Yes.

But this thread won't make them care. However we can use it to show Dox our support. <3 Dox <3 SEA
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
July 18 2011 04:40 GMT
#265
On July 18 2011 13:38 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:37 NoobSkills wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:03 Kiarip wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:54 Probe1 wrote:
Just don't invite sixjaxMajor.

I read the chat log screen shots, the forum posts and anything else posted here and I've come to the conclusion that Major really is a dick. Fuck him.

Even if he apologizes. No no no, fuck him.


On July 18 2011 12:52 moltenlead wrote:
I don't see what the massive discussion is about.


The most common thing I've read is people saying "fuck him". Having a massive thread is good. It gives the tournament good exposure and lets more people know that sixjax was beyond reprehensible.


Kid wanted to play.
Kid found an account even through it was a smurf.
Kid played and did not win money.

Don't see the issue. Even if he did win and took the money who the hell cares unless this is a tournament made to support the Code B players of the SEA region.


Are you stupid? He doesn't qualify to be in the tournament. He got disqualified luckily before he actually won it (assuming he would.)

It's a big deal, because the tournament is trying to support the SEA scene.


I don't care if he qualifies or not lol. And for you to insinuate that I am stupid because I don't care if players follow a tournaments rules then you should probably brush up on what reasonable logic is. I wish he had won it and had the cash in his pocket I see no reason to give $500 to a worse player just because the other guy lives elsewhere. Developing the SEA scene isn't that important lol.

So basically you lack empathy?


Basically, he's not human.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 18 2011 04:41 GMT
#266
He's a forum poster.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 18 2011 04:41 GMT
#267
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
July 18 2011 04:44 GMT
#268
On July 18 2011 11:42 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
When you're playing games, of all things, to make a living, you have to make ends meet. Major plays for money, just like any other athlete, whether e-sport or not. He has his reasons, even if they were against others, to make money. Besides, not many of the people who are complaining in this thread have devoted their career to play games, so not many of us can truly comprehend how important winning money tournaments are, regardless of the methods used.

So armed robbery is fine then, by your justification. He broke the rules, plain and simple, and then proceeded to berate the admins and the organiser of the tournament who forked out his own cash for the prizemoney. And allegedly stuck around in the tournament chat room for three hours to abuse people.

I fail to see how anyone in their right minds who has read all the evidence presented in the OP can empathise with major here.
Ucs
Profile Joined October 2010
264 Posts
July 18 2011 04:44 GMT
#269
The guy who opened the thread is such a drama queen. Major didn't cheat, he didn't do anything fishy, he just wanted to play a tournament like everyone else. As FXOtgun is registered that means there was no skill cap on registering for the tournament. So the only problem was location, which nobody cares about.

Overall you are just trying to stir stuff up and I see that its somewhat working... a shame that the community just jumps the band wagon to write c**p about some people for something that dosen't really matter.
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
July 18 2011 04:46 GMT
#270
On July 18 2011 13:44 Ucs wrote:
The guy who opened the thread is such a drama queen. Major didn't cheat, he didn't do anything fishy, he just wanted to play a tournament like everyone else. As FXOtgun is registered that means there was no skill cap on registering for the tournament. So the only problem was location, which nobody cares about.

Overall you are just trying to stir stuff up and I see that its somewhat working... a shame that the community just jumps the band wagon to write c**p about some people for something that dosen't really matter.

People do care about.

It's a tournament for SEA players... hm... somehow Mexico isn't part of Southeast asia, why doesn't Major go ahead and compete in NA cups? o wait he doesn't actually win those.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 18 2011 04:46 GMT
#271
On July 18 2011 13:37 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:03 Kiarip wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:54 Probe1 wrote:
Just don't invite sixjaxMajor.

I read the chat log screen shots, the forum posts and anything else posted here and I've come to the conclusion that Major really is a dick. Fuck him.

Even if he apologizes. No no no, fuck him.


On July 18 2011 12:52 moltenlead wrote:
I don't see what the massive discussion is about.


The most common thing I've read is people saying "fuck him". Having a massive thread is good. It gives the tournament good exposure and lets more people know that sixjax was beyond reprehensible.


Kid wanted to play.
Kid found an account even through it was a smurf.
Kid played and did not win money.

Don't see the issue. Even if he did win and took the money who the hell cares unless this is a tournament made to support the Code B players of the SEA region.


Are you stupid? He doesn't qualify to be in the tournament. He got disqualified luckily before he actually won it (assuming he would.)

It's a big deal, because the tournament is trying to support the SEA scene.


I don't care if he qualifies or not lol. And for you to insinuate that I am stupid because I don't care if players follow a tournaments rules then you should probably brush up on what reasonable logic is. I wish he had won it and had the cash in his pocket I see no reason to give $500 to a worse player just because the other guy lives elsewhere. Developing the SEA scene isn't that important lol.


Do me a favor will you?
Get the fuck out. And don't come back.

Lets kill E-Sports because Major wants $500. Sounds like reasonable logic to me. Fuck the rules. Don't like them? Break them. A tournament to inspire better players from SEA? Obviously that's a great place to send already professional players from other regions.

Developing the SEA scene is important. Developing all the scenes is important. Sixjax.Major is not important. He's one of a billion "pros" who aren't winning anything. What we don't need is a cheater in the professional community, and we especially don't need people who not only support his illicit actions, but are COMPLETELY INDIFFERENT to the rules made by the guy who PAYED THE PRIZE MONEY.

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Superpower
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia212 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#272
On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.

money can make players practice harder, therfore getting better.
Taeja <3
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#273
On July 18 2011 13:44 Ucs wrote:
The guy who opened the thread is such a drama queen. Major didn't cheat, he didn't do anything fishy, he just wanted to play a tournament like everyone else. As FXOtgun is registered that means there was no skill cap on registering for the tournament. So the only problem was location, which nobody cares about.

Overall you are just trying to stir stuff up and I see that its somewhat working... a shame that the community just jumps the band wagon to write c**p about some people for something that dosen't really matter.

Obviously the person who funded and administrated the tournament cares, and Major did in fact cheat, and lie. A shame that people don't even give a shit that Major tried to scam this guy out of his 500 bucks for his tourney.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#274
On July 18 2011 13:44 Ucs wrote:
The guy who opened the thread is such a drama queen. Major didn't cheat, he didn't do anything fishy, he just wanted to play a tournament like everyone else. As FXOtgun is registered that means there was no skill cap on registering for the tournament. So the only problem was location, which nobody cares about.

Overall you are just trying to stir stuff up and I see that its somewhat working... a shame that the community just jumps the band wagon to write c**p about some people for something that dosen't really matter.

What he should get special treatment because he is such a FUCKING drama queen.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#275
On July 18 2011 13:37 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:03 Kiarip wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:54 Probe1 wrote:
Just don't invite sixjaxMajor.

I read the chat log screen shots, the forum posts and anything else posted here and I've come to the conclusion that Major really is a dick. Fuck him.

Even if he apologizes. No no no, fuck him.


On July 18 2011 12:52 moltenlead wrote:
I don't see what the massive discussion is about.


The most common thing I've read is people saying "fuck him". Having a massive thread is good. It gives the tournament good exposure and lets more people know that sixjax was beyond reprehensible.


Kid wanted to play.
Kid found an account even through it was a smurf.
Kid played and did not win money.

Don't see the issue. Even if he did win and took the money who the hell cares unless this is a tournament made to support the Code B players of the SEA region.


Are you stupid? He doesn't qualify to be in the tournament. He got disqualified luckily before he actually won it (assuming he would.)

It's a big deal, because the tournament is trying to support the SEA scene.


I don't care if he qualifies or not lol. And for you to insinuate that I am stupid because I don't care if players follow a tournaments rules then you should probably brush up on what reasonable logic is. I wish he had won it and had the cash in his pocket I see no reason to give $500 to a worse player just because the other guy lives elsewhere. Developing the SEA scene isn't that important lol.


Using your logic why don't we just give all the Esports money out there to the GSL code S winner?

care to explain this to me? Seems like a logical solution, the better player should get all the money.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#276
Wow, would not expected that from a pro player . Sixjax should really think about if they want a player like that repressing there team. Makes the whole team look bad even though it was only major that did something.

And i cant believe people are like "this is a SEA turny so is does not matter". It does not matter if is a big or small truny, no pro player should do something like this. Those people that got knocked out by major must be so mad.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 18 2011 04:47 GMT
#277
On July 18 2011 13:44 Ucs wrote:
The guy who opened the thread is such a drama queen. Major didn't cheat, he didn't do anything fishy, he just wanted to play a tournament like everyone else. As FXOtgun is registered that means there was no skill cap on registering for the tournament. So the only problem was location, which nobody cares about.

Overall you are just trying to stir stuff up and I see that its somewhat working... a shame that the community just jumps the band wagon to write c**p about some people for something that dosen't really matter.


Really? Did you actually read the OP, the thread or any of the links? Major did attempt to cheat the rules of the tournament via a smurf account (fishy)- all so he could win a tournament he wasn't qualified for (unlike everyone else). The point of the tournament was shared location.

Get the hell out of this thread.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
July 18 2011 04:48 GMT
#278
On July 18 2011 13:36 Baarn wrote:
Please invite some top level players next time.

Thanks for your input. I've explicitly stated multiple times that this is my intent.

On July 18 2011 13:37 Mauldo wrote:
I'm sure he means Dreamhack, MLG, stuff like that. Tourneys that multiple different pro players from the major teams come from multiple different countries. A SEA tourney with a big prize pool is all good, but unless the best from other countries are allowed to enter as well, a lot of the community won't accept them. I for one would see it as the recent IPL seasons not just yet accepting people from too many different countries, trying to keep it small you see, but whatever. People won't think you're big until the Idras and the White-Ras are allowed to play.

I understand that. I was moreso looking for a prize value which would constitute a "big deal."

On July 18 2011 13:37 NoobSkills wrote:
Developing the SEA scene isn't that important lol.

Are you aware that the majority of the top players on SEA currently hold high ranks in the NA GrandMaster League? What makes our region so inferior, out of curiosity?
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 18 2011 04:51 GMT
#279
On July 18 2011 13:47 Superpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:41 Maliris wrote:
Having more prizemoney isn't gonna grow SEA, money can't make good players.

money can make players practice harder, therfore getting better.


Wrong motivation imo. Playing for wrong reasons. Passion for game carries you further. More money attracts better players I reckon is what Dox is getting at.
There's no S in KT. :P
joshboy42
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia116 Posts
July 18 2011 04:51 GMT
#280
Well, this just gives me another reason to really dislike major. I don't care if he's an amazing player, the guy has shown time and time again that he's an incredible douchebag.
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