Okay so. Hi. I'm Dox/VVoLF/Derek/whatever you want to call me. I'm the one who hosted the tournament. Allow me to give a little background before I respond to the posts below. I'm basically going to repeat what I said on Kelly's stream during the event.
This event was specifically designed to encourage the SEA community to step up their game and embrace the global success of StarCraft 2 competitive eSports. Consider it an investment on my part. I inject money into the community, and the community produces higher quality gamers. Eventually these players will build the skills and confidence they need to represent SEA on the world stage (see: mOOnGLaDe).
The original post was written and posted for SC2SEA.com. I decided to copy/paste it over here to provide a little more exposure for the players who frequent TL more often than our own site. Thus, the "valid SEA account" part was somewhat vague in a global context. The "SEA Citizen" requirement was included on the tournament calendar, but I didn't have the foresight to edit it into the OP.
5 days before the event, sixjax.MajOr got in touch with deL, asking him if he was able to compete. deL contacted me immediately with the question, and I responded concisely. "No, SEA citizens only." 4 days later, MajOr decided to sign up anyway, obviously in an attempt to exploit this loophole.
The screenshotted conversation you would have seen throughout this thread took place 15 minutes before the event went live. As you can see, I tried to be as civil and accommodating as possible towards MajOr, however he wasn't satisfied. He eventually gave up on harassing me, logged out, and I assumed he'd finally took no for an answer. But as his stream revealed, he approached one of the diamond-league players who was participating in the event (SayfT / Gerlan), and asked if he could use his account.
He proceeded to eliminate several players from the event, going unnoticed until he went up against one of the top seeds (aLt.iaguz, who fell 1 game short of winning the entire event) and drew a lot of attention to himself when he won. After analysing the replays and comparing them to some of MajOr's replays, it was quite clear that all of the hotkeys/APM/style were identical. We checked his stream and that's when it became quite clear that he decided to play on someone else's account after being refused entry several times. I eliminated him from the event and rewarded iaguz with the walkover, however I could do nothing but apologise to the players he had eliminated from the event in the earlier rounds. These players felt pretty cheated.
There are so many posts on so many forums which claim that his behaviour was justified because the rules weren't clear. But please understand that he had been denied access to the event several days before he even signed up. The brackets were already full before he signed up. His behaviour was inexcusable.
On July 18 2011 11:08 archflames wrote:
so you get ready for a $500 tournament and then you're told you can't play?, i dunno i'd be mad too cuz he most likely already spent some time getting ready for that tournament etc., both sides are wrong here imo, bad tournament organization is bad
As I said above, he was told he couldn't play before he registered for the event. Thanks for the positive feedback for a tournament you didn't participate in though.
On July 18 2011 11:17 Msr wrote:
The admins there are beyond terrible and the tournament is horrendus. I would say he cheated, but I doubt they verified that everyone who entered was from SEA, i know several who weren't.
Who are you? Can you please provide some constructive reasons why I'm beyond terrible and why the tournament was "horrendus." Who do you know of who wasn't from SEA? I'd be very interested to know, because every player who submitted replays to me was from South East Asia with the exception of MajOr.
On July 18 2011 11:25 ffadicted wrote:
Honestly, it was against the rules and all, but this is exactly why I feel restricting people based on where they're born/where they live is a stupid thing to do. Why exactly does it matter if it's just people from SEA? How does the tournament benefit at all from limiting the player pool based on nationality?
As I mentioned earlier, this was an investment in the SEA region. I've said it in a few locations, but just to be clear, I absolutely intend on including international participants in the next Dox Cup. This was just a dry run for me to gauge participant numbers and interest from our region alone.
On July 18 2011 11:42 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
When you're playing games, of all things, to make a living, you have to make ends meet. Major plays for money, just like any other athlete, whether e-sport or not. He has his reasons, even if they were against others, to make money. Besides, not many of the people who are complaining in this thread have devoted their career to play games, so not many of us can truly comprehend how important winning money tournaments are, regardless of the methods used.
This is possibly the worst justification I've ever seen. I work hard for my money, and I don't appreciate someone trying to take it from me fraudulently. You're essentially saying it's okay to steal from others to make ends meet. If he needs money that desperately and he's not finding monetary success in eSports, perhaps it's time to consider a new career path.
On July 18 2011 11:45 ffadicted wrote:
Isn't this the exact same argument people have over inviting koreans to MLG/NASL/etc?? And it's been widely agreed that it's much better to open up tournaments for everyone who wants to participate no matter where they live/are born/currently play?
I'm pretty sure it's largely agreed that inviting koreans is a good decision, and it's the same issue here. I'm all for limiting people based on whether or not they are pros/what league they're in just so it's not a massive skill level difference, but not letting major participate just because he's not from SEA is a silly decision in general.
As I said above, I'll be inviting international players for the next event. I'm sorry that you feel my decision was silly.
It's honestly disheartening that the general opinion is, "Oh well, it's only SEA, they don't matter." But if this happened in one of the TL Opens (which has less than half the prize money associated), it'd be a big deal.