For Zerg it would definately have to be DRG.

The creative use of burrow, for vision, with muta-bating and banelings at expansions is what sets his muta-ling style apart from everybody elses.

leperphilliac

United States399 Posts

July 10 2011 05:56 GMT

#144

Er, mods, I'm new to posting here so I guess I don't really know, but why was NEXPanDa perma banned? I mean, he only has two posts, and the thing he posted here was pretty on topic...

Wren

United States745 Posts

July 10 2011 06:07 GMT

#145

I have to add my support for Kyrix as a zerg trendsetter. His impact is stylistic, not a build, but it's permeated zerg play.

Ditto for MC, but I'm pretty sure he gets a lot of credit for 4gate and 6gate play too.

On July 10 2011 14:56 leperphilliac wrote:
Er, mods, I'm new to posting here so I guess I don't really know, but why was NEXPanDa perma banned? I mean, he only has two posts, and the thing he posted here was pretty on topic...

automated ban list has your answer: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=802#16058

manicshock

Canada741 Posts

July 10 2011 06:40 GMT

#146

On July 10 2011 14:45 AndreiDaGiant wrote:
that build puma did against july was definitely new and i bet we will start seeing stuff like that

Isn't really new at all. sC used it vs DRG in the LG3D tourney finals on one of the newer GSL maps. Puma's used it before as well in the weekly cups. I've seen it toyed with by other players long before this as well.

lunchforthesky

United Kingdom967 Posts

July 10 2011 07:23 GMT

#147

Nestea invented a lot of Zerg timings and tricks. Not massive things but so much of the small details that are actually really key are Nestea's creation.

lunchforthesky

United Kingdom967 Posts

July 10 2011 07:24 GMT

#148

On July 10 2011 14:21 Syben wrote:
I really think that HuK has really popularized the use of heavy heavy blink stalkers in PvZ. He used it quite effectively against Idra at HSC3 that I really have not seen any where else to the degree he used them. Just my opinion.

For Zerg I think it was Dimaga that really started with the heavy infestor hyper aggressiveness, he would be a nice candidate.

The heavy infestor use was popularised by Blizzard when they buffed fungal.

Yamulo

United States2096 Posts

July 10 2011 07:27 GMT

#149

On July 10 2011 09:20 iamke55 wrote:
I think Tyler invented the 5/6 gate all-in for PvZ.

Tyler was 6 gating zergs in October I think. I know he did it 3 times to idra in some show match

Djagulingu

Germany3605 Posts

July 10 2011 07:32 GMT

#150

For Zerg, I'd say Fruitdealer, Losira, NesTea and DongRaeGu. First 3 don't actually need an introduction but DongRaeGu also popularized low tech style of ZvT. CoCa might also be worth mentioning for his ZvP style of ling-baneling-infestor-ultralisk. Spanishiwa also requires a special mention. Yesterday I heard Gisado shouting him out in one of CrazymovING's games.

extempest

Canada77 Posts

July 10 2011 08:08 GMT

#151

the zerg should include spanishiwa definitely,
he sets the trend for people to actually use effective transfusion and queen use

Eknoid4

United States902 Posts

July 10 2011 08:12 GMT

#152

DRG popularized low tech ZvT?

low tech ZvT has existed forever.

The problem with this thread is that no one is checking their sources and just about everyone is completely wrong about when something first started it and when it first became common.

henreiman

United States407 Posts

July 10 2011 08:14 GMT

#153

After today's NASL I might suggest throwing PuMa onto that Terran list...although I guess at least the double reactored fact had been used before.

I feel like the tip top level pros are always the innovators - that's what they use to set themselves apart. Players like MVP, Nestea, MC understand that people will both:

a) always be threatening their micro/macro skill superiority just because of human limits

b) targeting them because they are the best.

So how do you counter that? Come up with new builds!

I would DEFINITELY add CatZ to Z though. He invented 7 pool, neh? And masterminded 1 base infestor also? He's a crazy awesome dude

TiBe

Mexico200 Posts

July 10 2011 08:24 GMT

#154

For zergs:

- Spanishiwa (no doubt)

- Kyrix ("high economy baneling aggression")

RaiKageRyu

Canada4773 Posts

July 10 2011 08:32 GMT

#155

On July 10 2011 09:12 Froadac wrote:

Show nested quote +

Really/ I was under the impression painuser was actually among the first to do that, although admittedly my GSL viewership has been... inconsistent.

It's wasn't called the Polt Timing Attack for nothing.

Denzil

United Kingdom4193 Posts

July 10 2011 08:37 GMT

#156

Partial troll but also true.

BitByBit.Prime should be part of the Terran list.

Idra should go for Zergs he was the one trying to force macro games in a time of cheese and all ins.

koolaid1990

831 Posts

July 10 2011 08:57 GMT

#157

Zerg: kyrix for high economy baneling play
Terran: BitByBit for scv marine all ins which is still popular today
Goody, known as the mech terran who goes mech no matter what
Protoss: None but MC and genius, especially MC who displayed the all mighty 6gate. Whitera most credited for warp prism play, but MC has been doing warp prism play since day 1. He even used it on Rain in the finals.

SgtCoDFish

United Kingdom1520 Posts

July 10 2011 09:01 GMT

#158

For terran Jinro's always worth a mention. To paraphrase IdrA, Jinro was playing macro when everyone else was doing all-ins.

For zerg, Dimaga is amazing. His ultra-rush builds in ZvP are really fun, and he's generally had some wacky styles that have a lot of use in a BoX series.

Spanishiwa obviously does a lot of stuff that few others do. He's known for the ice fisher build, for mass queen + 'hero' units (ultras or broods that get healed), harassing for an entire game... and a lot more. He's really creative and has impeccable scouting so that he knows when his creative stuff can work.

There are more, but I think those two first come to mind as people I've tried to copy for creative stuff. Obviously I've also tried to copy NesTea and IdrA for solid play.