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Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
July 09 2011 18:18 GMT
#341
In live chat they have gunrun moding he hasnt given any info and they even have someone in red chat trying to reduce trolling lol! Ok dont fix your production and audio problems... just get someone to try to silence trolls hhaaha
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
July 09 2011 18:18 GMT
#342
On July 10 2011 03:18 h0peless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 03:14 JoeAWESOME wrote:
Also now Day9's voice is rly high while Incontrols voice is normal


Day9 is a wonderfully expressive caster and alayst. But he also has room to grow. One of the best things he could do is to learn to control his volume. He can learn to amp the intensity in his voice without raising volume to the point where the sound team has to scramble. This seemed to be a problem for him at Dreamhack too.


There is the sound guy who just screw...
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 09 2011 18:19 GMT
#343
Audio guy please increase volume of commentary!
Veritask
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
July 09 2011 18:25 GMT
#344
It seems like tournaments really take the "casting archon" term seriously. Why can't nasl and mlg split up tastosis?
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 09 2011 18:26 GMT
#345
On July 10 2011 03:18 h0peless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 03:14 JoeAWESOME wrote:
Also now Day9's voice is rly high while Incontrols voice is normal


Day9 is a wonderfully expressive caster and alayst. But he also has room to grow. One of the best things he could do is to learn to control his volume. He can learn to amp the intensity in his voice without raising volume to the point where the sound team has to scramble. This seemed to be a problem for him at Dreamhack too.


I don't like how extremely over the top day9 can be when he casts. I mean on his dailies he's pretty mellow, then when he casts at a big event he seems to try too hard.

As for NASL, you really need to cut the fluff. Most people just want to watch the games and don't want to spend 8+ hours watching only a few games. Also, as has been said, the sound really ought to improve for such a major tournament.

Other than that though, I would just say everything else people are complaining about is nitpicky. Get your shit together next season.

I will still say that the net result of NASL has still definately been good. We still see some great games and the players are earning some dough. It could just be a lot better.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 09 2011 18:28 GMT
#346
Ret #1 seed gets bounced out in 10 minutes from the 16th and he's out of the tournament.. I have some qualms with that

The audio was terrible throughout day1 and the delays between matches were stupid long.
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Greggor
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden119 Posts
July 09 2011 18:31 GMT
#347
Anyone else who is annoyed by the mouseclick sounds ?

click click click

driving me crazy !
what ?
Schenkee
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland322 Posts
July 09 2011 18:33 GMT
#348
Just tuned in and my god the sound quality is bad, one sec im turning my sound down next back but then getting my ears blown out. Plus traveling around half the world to play for 10 mins is stupid, please open your eyes and look at how other tournys shuchs as mlg/dh are doing it.
Slike
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece127 Posts
July 09 2011 18:41 GMT
#349
On July 10 2011 03:28 Alejandrisha wrote:
Ret #1 seed gets bounced out in 10 minutes from the 16th and he's out of the tournament.. I have some qualms with that

The audio was terrible throughout day1 and the delays between matches were stupid long.


Kinda agree. Needs a losers bracket or something of that sort that gives people a second chance. Being #1 after 9 weeks of games (or what was it) then being out of the tournament in 15 mins is not that cool.

About the complaints on production issues , I didnt really see first day so I cant comment :p
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 18:45:12
July 09 2011 18:44 GMT
#350
My. Ears. Ouch...

I am sitting here with volume super low since the sound quality really is too terrible, thinking about muting it but then again I really like the commentating.
Adsee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
July 09 2011 18:54 GMT
#351
I dislike how the open tournament winner is matched up against the 1st seed. It doesn't really make sense to me, since the winner of that is pretty much guaranteed to be a strong player. Also, since the open tournament was played after the playoffs, gives Ret even less time to prepare for his opponent than everyone else.
Veritask
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
July 09 2011 18:56 GMT
#352
On July 10 2011 03:54 Adsee wrote:
I dislike how the open tournament winner is matched up against the 1st seed. It doesn't really make sense to me, since the winner of that is pretty much guaranteed to be a strong player. Also, since the open tournament was played after the playoffs, gives Ret even less time to prepare for his opponent than everyone else.

Plus the open winner gets to get into the big tournament without going through the 9 weeks of matches that everyone else did. It just seems like the open winner has an unfair advantage.
Jcuervo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States52 Posts
July 09 2011 19:00 GMT
#353
1-During interviews, the sound is horrible for people watching stream, increase internet audio of interview, can hardly listen to the interviews

2-Camera man wtf?!?!?

3-awkward moments during interviews

4-booth cameras are way too dark and out of position, borrow booth design from MLG

5-Ask MLG for advice and lessons learned

6-map rotation WTF?

7-one bo3 and out? i wouldnt travel 2k miles to play 1 bo3

8-game observer was/is fail
GhettoGosu
Profile Joined August 2010
19 Posts
July 09 2011 19:00 GMT
#354
Whats the song they use for Puma's Journey to the finals video? The one thats like electro with "I cant let you go"
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
July 09 2011 19:04 GMT
#355
Yeah, I don't understand why puma gets to qualify for next season AND play in the finals. If he ends up winning the tourney, that would be really annoying for the other players, especially since puma didn't need to play the first 9 weeks.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 09 2011 19:05 GMT
#356
I wanted to address many people saying why do we complain when it is all free even if you didn't pay for HD pass.
This is way wrong thinking. Do you think they have a free stream for lulz?
No, it is to show those viewers that they should buy a HD pass.
Or it is too show adds to them.
Or it is to show viewer numbers to their current or future sponsors.

So while the HD viewers do get more to say about this we others are almost as important.
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
July 09 2011 19:09 GMT
#357
On July 10 2011 04:04 MechKing wrote:
Yeah, I don't understand why puma gets to qualify for next season AND play in the finals. If he ends up winning the tourney, that would be really annoying for the other players, especially since puma didn't need to play the first 9 weeks.


There is people on a short list waiting for that.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 09 2011 19:10 GMT
#358
On July 10 2011 03:56 Veritask wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 03:54 Adsee wrote:
I dislike how the open tournament winner is matched up against the 1st seed. It doesn't really make sense to me, since the winner of that is pretty much guaranteed to be a strong player. Also, since the open tournament was played after the playoffs, gives Ret even less time to prepare for his opponent than everyone else.

Plus the open winner gets to get into the big tournament without going through the 9 weeks of matches that everyone else did. It just seems like the open winner has an unfair advantage.

Open winners plays as many games, is not allowed to lose any of them and does not have time to prepare for each match and opponent. He has more then earned his place among the top 16. And him winning his ro16 match so easily only confirms it was done well.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 19:33:45
July 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#359
Suggestions:

I like the concept of a 'spartan' stage, and think it can work. It almost gives the event a theatrical feel. In fact, it might be far less expensive to book an actual theatre than rent an entire convention hall plus the equipment. Most decent theatres have lighting grids, sound boards, and a lot of the extra infrastructure you're spending a small fortune on. You can even hire their technicians and stage crew to help things run smoothly.

The cost of taking an entirely blank space and giving it character is brutally expensive. Until you can afford it, don't.

I'm not sure why you're doing this in Ontario, California versus LA. The location of a multi-day event is very important. I'm not sure what kind of spaces are available in LA, or how expensive they are, but this seems like a poor managerial decision.

The coordination of all design is poorly, poorly thought out. The sponsorship banner not being flush mounted to the surface of the desk, for example, just looks sloppy.

The booths look overbuilt -- the windows are far too small to get reasonable camera shots of the players, and the the trim on all the furnishing, including the casting desk, is inexplicably bulky.

There should be low level lighting in the booths. Not only will you be able to capture the players, but it will be harder for the players to see the audience, in the darkness.

You can be 'minimalistic' -- personally, I think the elaborate GSL sets are corny -- but the less you have, the cleaner and more consistent all the design has to be.

The person operating the camera should be fired. He is singlehandedly ruining your entire broadcast with incompetence. There are moments were it looks like some is lazily bumping the camera, jumping around and vibrating the camera ... it's betrays a lackadasical, unprofessional attitude towards his responsibility.

You also need cameras in far better positions for shots. Whoever was responsible for this had obviously never composed a shot or done camera set-ups in their lives.

Obviously, the audio is an issue. I don't know how to fix it.

My recommendation: Hire a stage manager, a stage/set designer, a graphic designer (not just production guys that know how to use photoshop) and an event planner to help design and manage your next event. The oversights and kind of mistakes being made have more to do with a lack of coordination and accountability than actual dedication or effort.

Good luck, guys.





Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 09 2011 19:30 GMT
#360
Anyone calling Xeris an amateur at hosting tournaments clearly has no fucking clue what has gone on in the NA scene for the past 13 years.

Somtimes It makes me rage too much to read TL, nowadays.
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