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problem with this game is i didnt see eny Epic game as in bw....
when HOTS come out i will whatch 1000 reps casts stims ... and dicide to by it... simply i dont like SC2 at all... i played SC1 played WC3 played diablo 2 WOw... every game blizz made...
but SC2 is lol game Look at ZvT gameplay.... its Joke A move Banglings VS A move Stimed marines... Seige tanks VS BANGLINGS... Gameplay (hahaha LOL)
whont to point out there is no Logic in curent Gameplay and no strategy....alos Dinamith pathing bring that that game dont LOOK like strategy....
PvZ is ok....only matchup that i like... and PvT alos joke... A move MMM vs A move Colloss Ball vs Ball...=joke...
SC1 is art ... WC3 is art but in diferent way... SC2 is = litle bether than EA games...(right now)
END (i am disapointed that i byed the game) ( i w8 plenty of time to game get bether but it didnt...)
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I think Protoss will get the long-awaited Atlas (flying, cloaked colossus with 20 range, upgradeable to 30 range).
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Honestly, why do so many people hate on the Collosus? I think it is one of the coolest units in the game. If most of you had this game it would be extremely bland...
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I want my Lurker back 
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was there a point in this thread?
looks like people want reaver, lurker and vulture back even though in the poll it says excluding them, its obvious what people are thinking.
You CANNOT give lurkers to zerg, without giving reavers back and seriously changing siege tanks. Lurkers in sc2 would simply be way too imba, unless they wer tier 3 and cost like 400 gas -_-
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On July 03 2011 00:52 Stress wrote:
Honestly, why do so many people hate on the Collosus? I think it is one of the coolest units in the game. If most of you had this game it would be extremely bland...
No, the Colossus is the most bland unit of all. It was voted so already in previous threads. It's boring, requires no micro, and is far too good considering that. It was a mistake replacing the Reaver with such garbage.
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On July 03 2011 00:52 Stress wrote:
Honestly, why do so many people hate on the Collosus? I think it is one of the coolest units in the game. If most of you had this game it would be extremely bland...
Because it's an a-move unit and we see it in just about every game involving a Protoss. It's blandness comes from gameplay not art style.
Regardless of how many cool lasers it shoots out, it's uninteresting to use and adds next to no exciting gameplay dynamics. It's just plain and boring.
Marines vs Banelings is a perfect example of the way units should ideally be interacting.
I hope to god that HotS brings in some more microable units.
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I don't see why people think Blizzard will add units that resemble BW units. They have said MANY times that they want to stray away from BW and make a unique game.
There will never be lurker in SC2
There will never be reaver in SC2
There will never be vulture in SC2
So lets try to be creative and think of what really could be added.
Zerg - Flying Casting (utility unit)
Protoss - Harassment unit (Maybe something that can be loaded into a Warp Prism well)
Terran - Terran has everything, I don't really know what could be added. Maybe another Mech unit, but probably a flying mech type unit. Idk Honestly.
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lol I like how everyone just chose things that were in brood war in the poll. It was asking what the most likely addition would be... I definitely disagree that those would be likely (especially for zerg and toss). Colossus already fills a reaver-like role, same with the baneling and lurker. Sure they aren't they same but Blizzard's even implied that the lurker wasn't included because it held a similar role to the baneling.
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Toss: Micro gateway unit (something maybe like reaper, but maybe without cliff walk)
Zerg: Lair or hive area control (something that would take the role of either defiler/lurker)
Terran: They have full arsenal, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even get any units.
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I'm expecting AtA splash units, like in BW. This means devourer, sair, and valks
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On July 02 2011 20:35 PraetorianX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 20:26 Klive5ive wrote:
I want them to take out units.
Thor, Collosus, Imortal, Roach, Viking, Ultralisk.... just to name a few :p
What if they actually did that? lol " Instead of adding units, we've taken out 30% of the game's units. Enjoy your new expansion!" Imagine the rage.
I can't stop laughing.
I really doubt that blizzard will do what we are expecting, really.
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I want to see reavers and lurkers like everyone else, but it's not happening. The poll results are strange. You can't have collosus and reavers.. You can't have broodlords and lurkers. In order for these to replace the latter, there would be some major reworking of the races.
For Terran, I can see a new mech unit. That'd be cool if they reworked the current vulture model and replaced the hellion, but alas that's just a boy's dream. For Protoss, a lot of people say/suggest that there may be a harassment unit (artosis in recent interview). I disagree with this, as in the current metagame and the metagame we've seen since the start, Protoss have turned into this kind of turtle or time race. A harassment unit I feel would turn into something like the Protoss Reaper. No role to fill, somewhat useless in most parts of the game. I would like to see the mothership be reworked or just replaced with Arbiters, honestly. Blizz butchered whatever use she had, now it's no more than a 400/400 8 food garnish for your army. As far as Zerg goes, I honestly have no clue what you could give them. After months and months they seem to finally piece together what they need, and I feel like there is no niche to be filled at the moment.
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Zerg needs something that makes engaging sieged positions easier like dark swarm did. Broodlords are mandatory if you wanna engage terran late game and this kinda sucks.
I'd also like to see the lurker coming back but I don't see it happening. I also think that some units might need some tweaking like the queen, hydra, corruptor and maybe give the ultra unit-walk. I also think roaches need a late game upgrade to make them more viable, maybe something like +3 armor too?
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On July 03 2011 00:46 thebole1 wrote:
problem with this game is i didnt see eny Epic game as in bw....
when HOTS come out i will whatch 1000 reps casts stims ... and dicide to by it... simply i dont like SC2 at all... i played SC1 played WC3 played diablo 2 WOw... every game blizz made...
but SC2 is lol game Look at ZvT gameplay.... its Joke A move Banglings VS A move Stimed marines... Seige tanks VS BANGLINGS... Gameplay (hahaha LOL)
whont to point out there is no Logic in curent Gameplay and no strategy....alos Dinamith pathing bring that that game dont LOOK like strategy....
PvZ is ok....only matchup that i like... and PvT alos joke... A move MMM vs A move Colloss Ball vs Ball...=joke...
SC1 is art ... WC3 is art but in diferent way... SC2 is = litle bether than EA games...(right now)
END (i am disapointed that i byed the game) ( i w8 plenty of time to game get bether but it didnt...)
i didn't... understand .. what the fuck... you just... said
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Colossus already fills a reaver-like role, same with the baneling and lurker. Sure they aren't they same but Blizzard's even implied that the lurker wasn't included because it held a similar role to the baneling.
I am hoping that blizzard will step back a bit from their role-oriented unit design. I don't think all of the units should be designed for specific roles. Units specifically designed to harass like the reaper just seem lame.
What role does the reaver/shuttle have in BW? It can harass, but it also is an insanely powerful area-of-affect unit. The vulture both harasses and lays spider mines which can kill an entire army if it isn't controlled properly.
I remember somewhere blizzard admitting that the reaper isn't what they want, so maybe instead of adding more units they will revamp existing ones to make units more versatile, allowing them to be used in creative ways.
The other thing I would really like to see blizzard do with the expansion is add more interesting elements to the way armies interact. Take the overused example of tvz in BW. The way units interacted in battle was just entertaining both to watch and play. Scourge try to snipe vessels, vessels try to snipe defilers, and defilers cast dark swarm to let the zerg engage the terran without being ripped to shreds. Thats not even mentioning the way lurkers and mm interact.
Anyways, I think (maybe I'm just hoping) that this is the kind of interactions we will see in the expansions, whether blizzard tweaks existing units or designs new ones entirely.
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I feel like protoss will get some sort of harassment based unit, since their ability to harass is really limited compared to the other 2 races. They do have DTs, and can do some early stargate shenanigans, but its nothing compared to zerg and terran harass IMO
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On July 03 2011 00:46 thebole1 wrote:
problem with this game is i didnt see eny Epic game as in bw....
when HOTS come out i will whatch 1000 reps casts stims ... and dicide to by it... simply i dont like SC2 at all... i played SC1 played WC3 played diablo 2 WOw... every game blizz made...
but SC2 is lol game Look at ZvT gameplay.... its Joke A move Banglings VS A move Stimed marines... Seige tanks VS BANGLINGS... Gameplay (hahaha LOL)
whont to point out there is no Logic in curent Gameplay and no strategy....alos Dinamith pathing bring that that game dont LOOK like strategy....
PvZ is ok....only matchup that i like... and PvT alos joke... A move MMM vs A move Colloss Ball vs Ball...=joke...
SC1 is art ... WC3 is art but in diferent way... SC2 is = litle bether than EA games...(right now)
END (i am disapointed that i byed the game) ( i w8 plenty of time to game get bether but it didnt...)
This is either the most stupid motherfucker at TL, or one of the more creative trollers I've seen here atleast.
Like every single word is misspelled >.>
"BANGLINGS"?
Maybe he's just a kid and I shouldn't be too mean..
I hope you have a nice time now before school starts and that you grow up to be a strong man, buddy. Remember to eat your vegetables.
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P:It would be cool if they remade the carrier somehow, or made a new air unit that could be microed well. Reaver would also be cool!
Z: Hmm, it would be really fitting if we could get something out of the Overseer, some new spells or something that makes overseer more of a raven sort of thing, perhaps able to infest units somehow.
T: Terran feels like the most "complete" race right now, somehow I can see they could perhaps need something in the lines of the Goliath.
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In general I feel HotS should include more space controlling units.
Protoss: A mine laying unit would be useful seeing as toss is very immobile and takes alot of damage from dual prong attacks.
Zerg: This one is hard if I could id add a scourge like unit seeing as zerg AA is quite bad and a artillery like unit( ex. lurker, siege tank ).
Terran: A new mech unit, thors just dont seem right.
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