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Phats
Australia534 Posts
Zerg: Definitly something with siege type capabilities, I'm expecting they wont give us our lurkers back  but maybe the baneling launcher that someone mentioned before! that would be insane lol. a tower you load up like a dropship but its immobile and can launch banelings like 10-12 range.Terran: Really not sure what T is missing they seem to have most things covered, take out the hellion or remove its upgrade though that unit is way overpowered for not costing any gas. | ||
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jinixxx123
543 Posts
 Terran -remove energy from thor ( remove strike cannons if you have to) -remove energy from battlecruiser (put back energy on the battlecruiser when yamotoo cannon is researched -a little buff to seeker missile - a new mech unit :D , blizzard surprise me, im sure there are awesome mech stuff you can bring -maybe tamper with the reaper, give it mine traps? Zerg -maybe try to do something to cut down mass roaches, its pretty boring to see.. maybe make the roach morph into something somewhat like a lurker but uniquely different. -maybe a couple more interesting abilities or upgrades for the zerg -ton down infestor use, i know they want infestors to be used alot, but in everymatchup???, another cool caster for the zerg would be awesome Protoss - i try my hardest to think of something interesting, but i just got to admit it, the reaver was just that good, a crowd favourite, a crowd pleaser, a WTF moment!, anything that has the potiential to do huge damage and requires alot of skill on top of it = Esports gold. So i just have to say, either the reaver or something that can create that buzz, cause toss doesnt have that "omfg moments" (actually im talking out of my ass, they do have storm drops and warp prisms will be the future of toss harass) -maybe a little tweek to the carrier, havent seen a single one used yet in a pro game. | ||
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kofman
Andorra698 Posts
On July 05 2011 03:12 headbus wrote: How does a race that plays incredibly defensively because we have the most expensive units in the game and will never come out on top after trading armies control the pace of the game? I can think of one timing that wraps around a collosus in PvP, and its not really a timing, its just push out when/if you are ahead in a collosus count. I can however think of 4gate timings, phoenix timings, blink timings, dt timings ect ect. I agree though a protoss collosus doesn't require micro when you stim + 1a your entire terran army into a protoss ball simply to cry about how easy they are to play. You need to stop posting on TL. As for your insight on Zerg units. How would you feel if you scout HT's vs a protoss and proceed to get ghosts. Only to have those HT's morph into a collosus to counter your counter. That really rewards your opponent for countering you well. About your last point, thats exactly what archons are... When you scout HT's, terrans have to make maruders to respond to storm because storm rapes marines terribly, but then if toss just morphs then into archons, then you want marines because maruders aren't as good as marines against archons. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
Zerg: Something that can attack while burrowed, since I believe this was mentioned by the developers as a current weakness - maybe something lurker-ish... Terran: Something to make mech more viable probably, goliath would be nice. | ||
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Rorix
357 Posts
So why were those things interesting? because SC never had those kinds of units when BW came out. Same thing can be said about WoL --> HotS. They can return lurkers and reavers and arbiters etc. Yeah, its cool but we've seen them before. They'd just feed the nostalgia in us. IMHO, I'd want new things to play with. Something innovative. Come on Blizz, you can do it! | ||
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xHassassin
United States270 Posts
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ThatArcticFoxGuy
Australia1 Post
Protoss: I don't really want to see new units from protoss as much as I would rather Blizzard try more with the current units. The Carrier needs something more too it. It's never used which is a shame. And something more from the MOTHERSHIP And I would love to see something more interesting in PvP then Colossus battles Terran:I really don't think Terran needs anything at all. Looking at the previous posts alot of people think Terran mech needs new unit. I really don't agree. | ||
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skindin
Canada8 Posts
On August 21 2011 15:09 Rorix wrote: None of the above. I'd rather have them (Blizzard) surprise us with new, unheard-of and interesting units. Just like the transition from SC to BW reveal: "omg! a healer? infinite stim!", "attack while burrowed? sick!" and "mind control!! imba". So why were those things interesting? because SC never had those kinds of units when BW came out. Same thing can be said about WoL --> HotS. They can return lurkers and reavers and arbiters etc. Yeah, its cool but we've seen them before. They'd just feed the nostalgia in us. IMHO, I'd want new things to play with. Something innovative. Come on Blizz, you can do it! This! i want to play a new game! i don't want to play BW anymore, it's not that i have anything against BW but i don't want blizzard to make BW with better graphics i want blizzard to revolutionize the game. | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
On August 21 2011 15:55 skindin wrote: This! i want to play a new game! i don't want to play BW anymore, it's not that i have anything against BW but i don't want blizzard to make BW with better graphics i want blizzard to revolutionize the game. umm Starcraft 2 is completely different then BW... You clearly never played BW, at least at a competitive level. | ||
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skindin
Canada8 Posts
On August 21 2011 15:59 GoKu` wrote: umm Starcraft 2 is completely different then BW... You clearly never played BW, at least at a competitive level. I understand that. but most of what i am hearing are people asking for things like Goliaths, a "mine laying unit", lurkers, Reavers and other things that were left behind in BW. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
Protoss: A harassment unit is probably the most likely and atm the most lacking thing for Protoss. Could be the Reaver, but i expect something new and cool. Also perhaps another Ground to air unit? Personally i'd like them to replace the Colossi with something more micro intensive and fun to use, but i dont really see tht happening. Or a change to the mothership. Terran: Terran is the most complete race right now so i don't see a lot of stuff they could add. But i think the most likely one would be a new mech unit, something tht makes Mech viable in non-mirror. Replacing the helion with vultures would be awesome but probably not gonna happen. Maybe replace the Reaper with something else. | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
On August 21 2011 16:05 skindin wrote: I understand that. but most of what i am hearing are people asking for things like Goliaths, a "mine laying unit", lurkers, Reavers and other things that were left behind in BW. You just said you don't want to play a BW with better graphics... but you are asking them to put Broodwar units in the game... People are going to have to understand that the units blizzard adds if they add any at all will not be that good. The game is pretty close to balanced. You might see some Campaign stuff... but other then that no, yes but the vast majority of those people... dont understand Starcraft 2 at a high level. If protoss gets a harrasing unit when both Zerg and Terran need to be at a economic advantage before the late game, the game will actually be broken, Protoss already have the abbility though... HT drops killing a entire mineral line with a insanely fast warp prism... Zerg will probably get some kind of tier 3 / tier 2 unit that doesn't actually get destroyed by Snipe from ghosts. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
Zerg: Something to help scouting (seeing as the Overseer's getting removed) and/or a seige unit. Terran: Some minor tweaks to existing units in addition to some new upgrades. | ||
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Hristiyan
99 Posts
I'm totally positive that it will be a T2 unit. T1 and T3 are ok, but the main reason why zergs cry are that race's t2 units. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
Terran needs a fix for reapers or replacing them for something else, they're okay late game as a building destroyer (qxc in particular is awesome with them), and they are an okay early game scout (something terran doesn't need anyway, scans baby), but that's about it. Zerg could do with switching the hydra and the roach and modifying the stats to make that appropriate. They could also do with a better air to air unit than the corrupter, that thing is a joke. Zerg and Protoss need more utility upgrades available to them. Terran has far more upgrades that you can research (not counting +1 weapon/armor/shield upgrades) than the other races do. Things like building armor and +1 range to PF's/turrets are quite underestimated. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On August 21 2011 16:35 GoKu` wrote: You just said you don't want to play a BW with better graphics... but you are asking them to put Broodwar units in the game... People are going to have to understand that the units blizzard adds if they add any at all will not be that good. The game is pretty close to balanced. You might see some Campaign stuff... but other then that no, yes but the vast majority of those people... dont understand Starcraft 2 at a high level. If protoss gets a harrasing unit when both Zerg and Terran need to be at a economic advantage before the late game, the game will actually be broken, Protoss already have the abbility though... HT drops killing a entire mineral line with a insanely fast warp prism... Zerg will probably get some kind of tier 3 / tier 2 unit that doesn't actually get destroyed by Snipe from ghosts. Storm drops suck, they're expensive as all hell, and a single storm doesn't even kill workers because they don't sit in it, and storm only hits half the mineral line. It takes 4 storms to clear a mineral line, and you probably won't get them all. Compared to hellion drops it isn't even close. You're also wrong if you think terran and zerg NEED an economic advantage to beat protoss. It helps with a lot of styles, but there are some really good and strong styles that result in zerg winning on equal bases (yay infestors). | ||
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:38 Whitewing wrote: I didn't see a raider unit for Protoss, like the hellion or mutalisk. That's what I predict is likely, but there's no option for that in the poll. The closest is cliff hopper, but protoss has one: the colossus, and that's entirely different. It could also use a tweak to improve early game scouting before robo/hallucinate (since warp gate is mandatory before hallucinate). . Er .. blink stalker ? | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:44 Whitewing wrote: Storm drops suck, they're expensive as all hell, and a single storm doesn't even kill workers because they don't sit in it, and storm only hits half the mineral line. It takes 4 storms to clear a mineral line, and you probably won't get them all. Compared to hellion drops it isn't even close. You're also wrong if you think terran and zerg NEED an economic advantage to beat protoss. It helps with a lot of styles, but there are some really good and strong styles that result in zerg winning on equal bases (yay infestors). 1 Storm drops do not suck... are they guarentee'd to do damage? no... If your opponenet doesn't respond fast enough he loses 30 scvs... kind of like Terran dropps sept we don't drop a aoe caster... You are not suppose to compare hellion to HT... This is what im talking about. Terran is the harassing race. Protoss usually try to wait for a 200 army and then walk out and kill the terran. Obviously they pressure during that time while trying to build up their deathball. This is not whining, its fact TvP that Terran does need it against Protoss, even MC himself said "Terran's have 20 minutes to beat a protoss." Theres a reason Terran's are doing 1/2 base allin's in the GSL over the last 2 months. Protoss just becomes way to efficient. So using the early/mid game strenght of T, you need to either Finish the job or take some kind of economic lead, via drops, or expanding. Zerg you need a different kind of advantage, more like "Security" then anything else. | ||
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