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This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil. | ||
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Tosho
Australia498 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On June 28 2011 10:07 Tosho wrote: Happy to see LoL get its chance as a main line up item and it will be interesting to see how much staying power it has.Quake is a great game and I prefer it to CS but I think the general trend in shooters has been moving towards team based games for quite a while now. you mean since like 2002? | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
An issue with Quake is that it has a much steeper learningcurve than the modern FPS games, in Quake you get completely destroyed by good players for a long time before you learn the game. Then when you get good at the game you still get completely destroyed by people who are amazing at it :D Imagine people who have grown up playing Call of duty, Counter strike and Halo if any FPS games at all but never touched any game like Doom, Quake, Unreal tournament, Painkiller etc they are going to have a tough time getting into Quake Live. Once you are good at Quake you know how awesome it is compared to pretty much every other FPS game, most players probably give up when they get destroyed in their first FFA game though :/ | ||
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Mastertouch
United States136 Posts
On June 28 2011 10:22 Gurgl wrote: I feel like a big reason why Quakelive doesn't get that many viewers for events is that alot of people who may want to watch it don't know about it going on. If there was a site like TL for QL or if the main QL page had streamlinks and better information about upcoming events then I think they could get pretty good viewernumbers for big events. An issue with Quake is that it has a much steeper learningcurve than the modern FPS games, in Quake you get completely destroyed by good players for a long time before you learn the game. Then when you get good at the game you still get completely destroyed by people who are amazing at it :D Imagine people who have grown up playing Call of duty, Counter strike and Halo if any FPS games at all but never touched any game like Doom, Quake, Unreal tournament, Painkiller etc they are going to have a tough time getting into Quake Live. Once you are good at Quake you know how awesome it is compared to pretty much every other FPS game, most players probably give up when they get destroyed in their first FFA game though :/ quake has esr, but thats nothing on the level of teamliquid or clgaming site. i think id needed to somewhat advertise dreamhack. it wasnt anywhere on the news feed on the quakelive site or no banners. | ||
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Hadriel
Canada31 Posts
Happy for all of the competitive league players out there despite my feelings that sc2 and Quake are the superior competitive games. Riot's done a great job at pushing the competitive side of the game and it was only a matter of time before this happened. | ||
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puzzl
United States263 Posts
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Please come here!!!! | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On JuNe 28 2011 07:57 Shikyo wrote: This as a counterargument to LoL taking no skill. Easy to pick up doesn't mean easy all the Way... But Yeah just silly sigh, just accept it, I still think it's a good thing for esports no matter what. I think LoL deserves to do whatever it wants; if viewers want to watch it (and they clearly do) then it can be in any tournament that takes it. However, linking one short clip doesn't prove it takes any more skill than anything. DotA has been doing far more impressive stuff for years, on top of having more difficult mechanics and requiring more map awareness. | ||
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soulist
United States932 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Hell...I hate Call of Duty with a passion but it would be wonderful if the e-sport scene there became bigger. However, should it become a mainstream e-sport, I would want MW 1 over Black Ops the way many people want CS 1.6 over Source. And the reaction towards the removal of Quake Live seems to be like a Jazz concert being canceled only to be replaced with a Justin Bieber concert even though no one watches Jazz. It is simply superior in their opinion, but not worth your time watching. | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
On June 28 2011 08:48 Shiragaku wrote: Oh wow...I just read through this thread and died a little inside... I can understand why people do not want to watch LoL. You basically need a Ph.D in the game to actually enjoy the game. Just like some of my friends do not enjoy watching StarCraft because they cannot tell the difference between Protoss and Zerg plus they have to train their eyes to see the units well. And fuck the casual game logic. That argument is just as legit as hearing a religious debate. "I am a Christian, atheists have no morals" "I am an atheist, religion causes violence." Stupid Stupid Stupid Quoted for truth this is the exact same thing as when the BW elitists said SC2 was too casual and that it would never last, but SC2 still continues to grow. Also why do people hate on LoL when it's bringing in more people to esports; isn't that what it's all about at the end of the day that more people are getting into esports even if its through a "casual" game who cares it's a good thing. | ||
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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kmkg
Japan186 Posts
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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Alaron
United States225 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:43 Ocedic wrote: I think LoL deserves to do whatever it wants; if viewers want to watch it (and they clearly do) then it can be in any tournament that takes it. However, linking one short clip doesn't prove it takes any more skill than anything. DotA has been doing far more impressive stuff for years, on top of having more difficult mechanics and requiring more map awareness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCkvR7NZqAg Case and point why I fell LoL gets too much recognition. It aggravates me but it is what esports boils down too at the moment. I prefer games with a much higher skill ceiling, and LoL does not fit into it. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On June 28 2011 13:07 Alaron wrote: Case and point why I fell LoL gets too much recognition. It aggravates me but it is what esports boils down too at the moment. I prefer games with a much higher skill ceiling, and LoL does not fit into it. Ah...so LoL does not have a high enough skill ceiling? Can you explain why that is the case? | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
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Morta
Germany557 Posts
And the matches are always entertaining cause it's a crazy fast paced shooter which requires a insane amount of skill. | ||
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