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This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
July 08 2011 22:58 GMT
#661
On July 04 2011 01:31 7mk wrote:
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On July 02 2011 19:42 Tomken wrote:
On July 02 2011 19:20 Mr.Brightside wrote:
Anyway, TLDR: Q3 > LoL skillwise but not in terms of entertainment.


WTF is so entertainment with LoL when you just sit there and wait for 25min mark before something starts to happen? First 15min it's rarely anything happens, maybe 1-2 kills.


yea, I have no clue about Q3, i just used to play it very very casually against AI, but watching it at IEM cologne last year was really fun. I have played LoL just a few times but watching it just seems super boring to me.
I'll still happily be going to cologne though since I'm in for SC2 anyways.

I've heard the same from games that were casted by bad commentators, but the games I watched from DreamHack were actually very fun to watch with the casters they had. Probably the first team game I've enjoyed watching -- I tried CS1.6/Source when I was younger, didn't like it, and WoW Arena isn't exactly the best spectator eSport either.

Don't hate too much on LoL. Yes, it caters to both a competitive AND casual audience, but if you actually know how the game works -- like many, many do -- it works as a spectator eSport, and it's more or less balanced because any composition a team can see coming, they just ban deny with champion bans during champion picking.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 08 2011 23:51 GMT
#662
On July 09 2011 07:58 Cedstick wrote:
Don't hate too much on LoL. Yes, it caters to both a competitive AND casual audience, but if you actually know how the game works -- like many, many do -- it works as a spectator eSport, and it's more or less balanced because any composition a team can see coming, they just ban deny with champion bans during champion picking.


It's a fun game to play and it does have a pretty high skill ceiling. I think it's cool that there are a lot of games that come out that appeals to comp and casual players. Honestly, SC2 is very similar to LoL in this regard. SC2 does have an appeal to casual gamers but it still has a very high skill ceiling and an entertaining competitive scene. Just like League of Legends.

People claiming it takes no skill or whatever should just play it so that they can get super high ELO and make money as a professional gamer. I can understand people who think it's boring, or being upset about Quake Live going away, but saying that LoL isn't an eSport just sounds like you're mindlessly bashing the game because you don't like it.
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