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This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil. | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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Znoz
Latvia127 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:18 Kipsate wrote: Did that with Starcraft 2 too, they took BW, - copy - make it easier- SHINY GRAPHICS - make casual - profit!. I like both sc2 and sc. Sc2 was like new rule set for game or graphical and mechanics update. So will be Dota 2 - update and change\progress... not copy and promote with "it's free" " we are in tournaments " " We have many players " banners like in "don't-say-or-you-will-be-banned-for-trolling-game". And i never played QL (or it's series), i played LoL near 1 month... and it's more interesting for me to watch QL - it's more entertaining. That's why i dont't like QL removal and Lol adding. | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:20 Znoz wrote: Because 90% of LoLers need 5-7 years to become independent from school and parents, and then they will compete in "top". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies You cannot make arguments with glaring weaknesses in them. I suggest before trying to argue doing some research on basic principals. | ||
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ChaosShadow
United States79 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:27 question wrote: well QL and starcraft are 100% best esports to spectate That is a matter of opinion, I've watched all, and i find LoL a more fun experience to watch than SC2; though i find QL better than both for "holy crap" moments. | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:27 question wrote: well QL and starcraft are 100% best esports to spectate WTF, BW is the best esport to spectate, followed by SC2. How can QL be better than BW in any possible way. edit: cant read -.- | ||
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elementz
United States281 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:18 Daehlie wrote: The other explanation other than their good looks, Riot Games sold a majority stake in the business to the Chinese Google equivalent for what we can only assume was a dump truck full of cash. If you look on their investor page, they state outright that their are financially backed by Tencent Holdings. Also, I have not seen any audited financial statements for Riot Games, so I would call into question your assertion of $400M, that is the estimated (financial details of the deal were not officially released) valuation of the company which is a multiple of its true financial performance. Tencent paid a premium to eliminate the two other venture capital firms that had a stake in the startup. Short answer, to Tencent Holdings, Riot Games looked like it was worth less on paper today than it could be in ten years, and they are willing to gamble on that fact to the tune of $400M. So, in a way, they did choose them for their good looks, but taking the purchase price of a business with the multiple as its "worth" is sophomoric of the first order. By that logic Apple is worth $300B, and LinkedIn is worth $7B. True however Riot is expanding to China and Korea this year which will most likely boost them to that level much quicker than what you might expect, the Chinese company bought them to make sure the Chinese launch was smooth because the Chinese market is huge when it comes to micro-transactions, so Riots worth will rise significantly this upcoming year, they will have Korean/Chinese invites to their tournaments later this year or in 2012. A VC wouldn't look 10 years in the horizon they will gamble but for quick returns cause that is when their heads depends on quicker results to their investors. This is getting nowhere, LoL has a lot of cool elements to it and many of the people talking the talk about how ez it is should walk the walk and get their own teams winning the big money that Riot is putting up (oh btw riot is getting their own sponsors for the events so they aren't paying for anything by themselves they are getting sponsors to pay for everything like everyone else). I am done here, elitism, politics, religion, should be never talked about over dinner with guests cause everyone has their views and is not willing to change those views. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:30 -Kato- wrote: WTF, BW is the best esport to spectate, followed by SC2. How can QL be better than BW in any possible way. He said starcraft is the best esport to watch, can you read or are you that big of a BW elitist that you are blinded. | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:30 -Kato- wrote: WTF, BW is the best esport to spectate, followed by SC2. How can QL be better than BW in any possible way. It's 3D. Now to stop trolling; it's a matter of taste just like with anything else. Not everybody loves to watch strategy games but rather watches guns and stuff =)? | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:30 -Kato- wrote: WTF, BW is the best esport to spectate, followed by SC2. How can QL be better than BW in any possible way. Spoken like a true genius. BW IS the best esport to spectate, no FPS could ever live up to it, it appeals more to the players than BW or even SC2. It's far easier to spectate BW and then Sc2 than any other esport simply because of the nature of the game. We argued about this for hours on IRC (well one person said FPS was easier to spectate and kept reiterating his terrible points while the rest of us laid down the law). While I love CS and Quake (QL not so much) I will never enjoy watching them like I do BW or SC2, it's just way better as a spectator. I didn't watch the LoL stream so I can't comment, although I played LoL around a year ago I can really see how it would be great to spectate with a proper spectator mode. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
God, the prejudice... | ||
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:34 SmoKim wrote: $635,000 o.o yeah, in case they'll find money to pay for 2 prev seasons =_= | ||
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Znoz
Latvia127 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:29 isM wrote: You cannot make arguments with glaring weaknesses in them. I suggest before trying to argue doing some research on basic principals. LoL *random words* 200k viewers *random words* esports grow *random words*. I'm improved, or still need some practice of being lol-fan and argue with people? LoLer To Rage List: Casual Easy Dota Copy Imbalance Commercial F2P Skill ... LoLer Rage Defence\Answer List: 200k viewers User was warned for this post | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:44 Znoz wrote: LoL *random words* 200k viewers *random words* esports grow *random words*. I'm improved, or still need some practice of being lol-fan and argue with people? LoLer To Rage List: Casual Easy Dota Copy Imbalance Commercial F2P Skill ... LoLer Rage Defence\Answer List: 200k viewers BW vs SC2 Casual Easy BW ripoff Imbalanced Copy Skill Micro SC2 defense spreads E-sport worldwide! Graphics! See how much sense that makes again? Just stop with your pointless arguing. Lol is here to stay. Edit: I will refrain from replying now cause this is just pointless. | ||
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Tal
United Kingdom1015 Posts
Furthermore, it isn't a bad game. On this forum there seems to be an idea that complexity = good, and that because DOTA is more complex it's better. Isn't simplicity occasionally better? Elegant design allowing more subtlety? Chess or football or something? | ||
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LuckstYle
Germany181 Posts
micro is bad? skill is bad? wtf? | ||
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danson
United States689 Posts
lol we are failing at this so hard. | ||
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cydereal
United States193 Posts
Sad they got rid of QL, but LoL is not a loss. It's actually similar to WoW arena at the high end. | ||
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Znoz
Latvia127 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:45 Kipsate wrote: BW vs SC2 Graphics! Sorry , bro - i will not butthurt about this because: 1) I like both games - and as I already posted - BW and Sc2 are like Dota and Dota 2 in future . 2) I play with low shader settings, so it's almost same :3 only need to find BW soundpack. Sorry if said sht about you beloved game, just sad about removal of QL. User was warned for this post | ||
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oniman999
United States169 Posts
I think the idea that LoL is getting views just because of it's casual fanbase is pretty much wrong. CoD and Halo are two shooters geared directly towards the casual audience, and SC2 gets much more views at MLG than those two do (according to Slasher iirc). I think as a community centered around growing esports we should be happy that the scene is expanding to a more mainstream audience and not upset that it's no longer this hidden community. I understand the concern of a skill-less game being harmful to the scene, because I think CoD is harmful to the video game industry in general. However, LoL is not some game that any noob can get on and win in and I think we need to give it a chance before bashing it so hard. | ||
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