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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#981
Suddenly a spark of doubt coming within me whether it is really good to create a gigantic esports scene where one company has so much absolut power. They can basically shut down whole tournaments and end careers on a whim if they feel like it.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
June 25 2011 19:37 GMT
#982
It's explicitly against the TOS and it was only a warning. It's not like they banned the guys.

Yeah, they probably should change the rule or let you get another account for less than 50 bucks, but honestly, if you're a pro streaming yourself breaking the TOS, you're kind of asking for it.

Also, if they were doing custom games, why play on someone else's account...
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
June 25 2011 19:46 GMT
#983
On June 26 2011 04:18 Spacedude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:37 Prfx wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:34 Erik.TheRed wrote:
LOL at HuK wearing TLO's shirt today. I wonder if that is in the TOS as well?

nazgul is already on the phone...
+ Show Spoiler +
t-shirt sharing


Indeed this is absurd. I don't give a damned for what the TOS says about account sharing. Because there's laws that outlaws a puny TOS. There's something that's more important than some TOS could ever be, this including official laws that's oppressive, and that's our 'common sense' rights. Freedom rights. We should not simply accept a TOS as a higher law, which it is not. If all companies included a TOS that was oppressive to our common sense rights then we simply couldn't buy anything without selling a bit of ourselves in the process. But we all have needs so we'd do it anyways, naturally. See the picture I'm painting here? There's just some things we as a people should never accept.


You're definitely the Martin Luther King of Starcraft users individual rights. Get fired up. We ain't sitting in the back of the fuckin bus sharing accounts god dammit. I won't stand for this shit.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 19:49:35
June 25 2011 19:46 GMT
#984
On June 26 2011 04:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Suddenly a spark of doubt coming within me whether it is really good to create a gigantic esports scene where one company has so much absolut power. They can basically shut down whole tournaments and end careers on a whim if they feel like it.


This how I very much feel. I wish that e-sports communites had the ability and resources to make their own open source game, even if this is totally unrealistic. Starcraft 2 is owned by Blizzard and they can mostly do whatever they want to, even if the whole community disagreed with what they did. It's their house and we're just guests. But that's the best deal there's is, atm.
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
June 25 2011 19:52 GMT
#985
On June 26 2011 04:46 Spacedude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Suddenly a spark of doubt coming within me whether it is really good to create a gigantic esports scene where one company has so much absolut power. They can basically shut down whole tournaments and end careers on a whim if they feel like it.


This how I very much feel. I wish that e-sports communites had the ability and resources to make their own open source game, even if this is totally unrealistic. Starcraft 2 is owned by Blizzard and they can mostly do whatever they want to, even if the whole communities disagrees with what they did. It's their house and we're just guests. But that's the best deal there's is, atm.


I think you're under the delusion that you're in the majority when you think that having a player abuse the GM system by playing on another persons ID to keep them from dropping to masters is a 'fair' thing. Maybe among the TL community the vocal majority supports this, but i believe casuals and those who care about the integrity of the ladder are more inclined to side with blizzard on this one.

I think suggesting that blizzard would, "shut down whole tournaments" is fear mongering and is completely irrelevant to this situation. It's like you took all the facts and disregarded the ones you don't agree with. It's got nothing to do with simply sharing accounts. It's entirely about their GM system and the upcoming tournament. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to grasp.
m!DniGhT
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany34 Posts
June 25 2011 19:59 GMT
#986
Hmm the aren't the Koreans do that all the time are they? Just heard of hiding Builds from some Persons and stuff like that .
I'm on a horse - meewwww - Cow!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
June 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#987
Nice marketing fail by blizzard, I don¨t understand how they thought it would be a good idea to do this.
This is our town, scrub
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 25 2011 20:07 GMT
#988
To be perfectly honest i think Blizzard wanted to make a exemplary case,because i have never heard of a Blizz employee calling a customer for something like this.
But all it did was made Blizzard look like complete assholes.
Cackle™
gamecreator
Profile Joined July 2010
United States24 Posts
June 25 2011 20:12 GMT
#989
Good for Blizzard. It's their game with their rules and their right to enforce them. Don't like the rules, don't play. Remember, you accepted their Terms of Service when you signed on. There's not much to really debate.

Good PR move? Don't know. No one really does. It depends on what they're trying to achieve and that's not public, as far as I know.
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
June 25 2011 20:13 GMT
#990
this is how they spend their time on two players who have already paid for their game and 'sharing accounts' but not banning cheaters, hackers, do some damn serious bug squashing or fixing maps. oh no they do put rocks in new maps. i am sorry bliz.
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
stfouri
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland272 Posts
June 25 2011 20:21 GMT
#991
Soo many whining kids here bitching about Blizzard.
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS! Ohnoes its so big company and they still go after our money ;<<<!
TOS aint legit!

I would be happy that they where actually watching the stream, knowing that they are there, on their computers checking tournaments and streams.

But hey they dont care ya mon! All dei want is aur moni.
Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 20:43:00
June 25 2011 20:35 GMT
#992
On June 26 2011 04:52 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:46 Spacedude wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Suddenly a spark of doubt coming within me whether it is really good to create a gigantic esports scene where one company has so much absolut power. They can basically shut down whole tournaments and end careers on a whim if they feel like it.


This how I very much feel. I wish that e-sports communites had the ability and resources to make their own open source game, even if this is totally unrealistic. Starcraft 2 is owned by Blizzard and they can mostly do whatever they want to, even if the whole communities disagrees with what they did. It's their house and we're just guests. But that's the best deal there's is, atm.


I think you're under the delusion that you're in the majority when you think that having a player abuse the GM system by playing on another persons ID to keep them from dropping to masters is a 'fair' thing. Maybe among the TL community the vocal majority supports this, but i believe casuals and those who care about the integrity of the ladder are more inclined to side with blizzard on this one.

I think suggesting that blizzard would, "shut down whole tournaments" is fear mongering and is completely irrelevant to this situation. It's like you took all the facts and disregarded the ones you don't agree with. It's got nothing to do with simply sharing accounts. It's entirely about their GM system and the upcoming tournament. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to grasp.


Maybe basing a tournament of the ladder system is then the problem in question here? If you base a tournament on something which very nature allows for account sharing (and rightly so) then isn't this the real problem here? I don't know if the majority shares my opinions or not - and nor do I care for it. My opinions ain't based upon how many simply agrees with them or not.

If hacker ruins the game for others he should be banned, but is account sharing the same thing in nature? I don't believe so. It's blizzard own fault for using the ladder system this way, not the account sharer.
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
vpatrickd
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia279 Posts
June 25 2011 20:40 GMT
#993
Blizzard fix your algorithms man.
You told HuK to stop borrowing TLO's account but he can't ladder FFS.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
June 25 2011 20:48 GMT
#994
On June 26 2011 05:40 vpatrickd wrote:
Blizzard fix your algorithms man.
You told HuK to stop borrowing TLO's account but he can't ladder FFS.


Well if there's no one laddering that is close enough to his skill level, how far down do you propose they go? You'd get to a point where it would be like a diamond playing some gold leaguer or something, and that's no fun for anyone.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
blackodd
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden451 Posts
June 25 2011 20:53 GMT
#995
This is like a grown up bullying a child for playing
For I am the Queen of Blades. And none shall ever dispute my rule, again...
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
June 25 2011 20:55 GMT
#996
at first i thought it was a trol... honnestly i understand blizzard's point of view but on another hand, if the system failed to find Huk a game, what is he supposed to do ? buy another account and ladder against low skilled players ?

If the system fails, it's blizzard's fault.
http://www.youtube.com/PiouStarcraft - http://www.facebook.com/pioustarcraft
Shady
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria115 Posts
June 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#997
yeah their following eSports but instead of fixing HuKs account they call to a country on another continent because of account sharing in a really important tournament....wow...i would not have expected that move from blizzard, so stupid...
vicml21
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada165 Posts
June 25 2011 21:03 GMT
#998
Well, account sharing IS against the rules, and Blizzard obviously follows the professional tournaments very closely, so I don't see why anyone would be angry at this. It makes logical sense, and if they continue to do such thing, I hope the guy DOES get his account banned. It would be similar to map hacking. Not allowed, the big difference being map hacking actually gives you advantages in game and is therefore frowned upon vs account sharing which seems harmless. Similarly with modding and playing pirated games on consoles, if you're not allowed to do it, why would you bother?
"Meow" - Probe
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
June 25 2011 21:05 GMT
#999
Wake up blizzard, the community makes you.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
June 25 2011 21:07 GMT
#1000
On June 26 2011 04:52 starcraft911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:46 Spacedude wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Suddenly a spark of doubt coming within me whether it is really good to create a gigantic esports scene where one company has so much absolut power. They can basically shut down whole tournaments and end careers on a whim if they feel like it.


This how I very much feel. I wish that e-sports communites had the ability and resources to make their own open source game, even if this is totally unrealistic. Starcraft 2 is owned by Blizzard and they can mostly do whatever they want to, even if the whole communities disagrees with what they did. It's their house and we're just guests. But that's the best deal there's is, atm.


I think you're under the delusion that you're in the majority when you think that having a player abuse the GM system by playing on another persons ID to keep them from dropping to masters is a 'fair' thing. Maybe among the TL community the vocal majority supports this, but i believe casuals and those who care about the integrity of the ladder are more inclined to side with blizzard on this one.

I think suggesting that blizzard would, "shut down whole tournaments" is fear mongering and is completely irrelevant to this situation. It's like you took all the facts and disregarded the ones you don't agree with. It's got nothing to do with simply sharing accounts. It's entirely about their GM system and the upcoming tournament. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to grasp.


On the whole "one company" thing -- Blizzard already causes matches to be delayed by hours, players simply waiting on battle.net or an internet connection to play while they are sitting 3 ft from each other and could be playing without the supervision of this one company. But no, Blizzard demands full control over every game of StarCraft II that is played. Ever.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
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