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I'm pretty sure they got all the statistics using SC2Gears, since all that stats listed are available by doing a multi-rep analysis in SC2Gears.
It's Real APM listed, not SC2 APM. 100 In-game APM = 138 Real APM. Just look at the replays or open some in SC2Gears and you'll see Idra has 170 In-Game APM (236 Real APM).
The Fun Facts listed are incorrect. If you open the Losira vs MMA Game 4 in SC2Gears and go to the Builds/Tech Stats chart, it shows 380 Baneling morphs. However, the Builds/Tech Stats chart isn't accurate, because it includes some of the attempted morphs (when you press the button but don't have enough resources). There was actually ~198 banelings (I counted), not 380.
SC2Gears does the same thing with buildings/abilities/researches/upgrades/trains. It counts the action whether or not the order went through. For example, you select a drone, tell it to build a spawning pool, then before it gets there you make it build a spawning pool somewhere else instead, it'll show 2 Spawning Pools in the Build Stats
I'm assuming there wasn't 47 Ultralisks or 52 Ghosts or 416 Infested Terrans in those other games either.
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That is some pretty equal distrisbution of wins there, I like it. Too bad ladder isn't more like that.. not for me anyway 
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So any map on which Protoss is allowed to Forge Expand they seem to be favoured, on the others Zerg is favoured.
I would love to see which player made the most ultralisks/warp prisms/carriers throughout the tournament. I don't suppose it's possible to do stats by player and not by game?
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On June 22 2011 09:27 LagT_T wrote:
That's applicable when you are looking at a race overall win percentage, but this is matchup win percentage, which is independent of any individual result. You use the total amount of games of that matchup played, regardless of the tournament round, etc, they all weight the same.
If there are more Zerg in the final brackets than there were in the starting brackets, that indicates that Zerg had to beat T and P disproportionately to get there. The extra ZvZ matches don't make up for that.
Another factor is that if any race is overrepresented in the starting bracket, that race is likely to lose more than the other races, because more of their players will get knocked out early. Terran players made up 40% of the participants, so more of them are likely to lose in early rounds (since the average number of games played is 2, both losses.)
Remember, in a 6-round double elimination tournament, the average player will lose twice, while the winner is guaranteed to have at most 1 loss but at least 6 wins. Anyone who makes it to the last three rounds is guaranteed to be winning more than the average.
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On June 22 2011 11:25 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 09:27 LagT_T wrote:
That's applicable when you are looking at a race overall win percentage, but this is matchup win percentage, which is independent of any individual result. You use the total amount of games of that matchup played, regardless of the tournament round, etc, they all weight the same. If there are more Zerg in the final brackets than there were in the starting brackets, that indicates that Zerg had to beat T and P disproportionately to get there. The extra ZvZ matches don't make up for that. Another factor is that if any race is overrepresented in the starting bracket, that race is likely to lose more than the other races, because more of their players will get knocked out early. Terran players made up 40% of the participants, so more of them are likely to lose in early rounds (since the average number of games played is 2, both losses.) Remember, in a 6-round double elimination tournament, the average player will lose twice, while the winner is guaranteed to have at most 1 loss but at least 6 wins. Anyone who makes it to the last three rounds is guaranteed to be winning more than the average.
1) That disproportion is the win % linked in the OP.
2) The overrepresentation in the opening bracket is an issue I'm willing to discuss because I haven't found out how to solve it or if there is a need to solve it.
3) Same as point 1.
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Lets Face it, Foreign terrans are really bad atm
Select is the only foreign terran that is decent which did poorly last MLG.
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On June 22 2011 07:11 SuperStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 07:02 windsupernova wrote:
Well, since the OP got it wrong here are the Win percentages
PvZ:46.51 %
TvZ: 43.21%
TvP:46%
I wonder how many people will claim T are broken before they read the thread LOL
IMO things seem quite balanced, its a shame that the QQing never seems to stop. So thats how balance looks like, zergs having winning percentage against every other race by a high margin, good to know. However looking at every tournament around things do look balanced, but i dont see how you can say that things look balanced looking just at MLG.
Speaking as a terran, there were a lot of superb zergs in this tournament, while the skill level of the terran players wasn't just as high. Things like that can have a big effect on the results. However people saying 7% difference is small... Well it ain't. I'm just so thankful July is playing SC2, else zergs would probably still be QQing about T like idra.
Anyway MLG XC, TvP/PvT has 105% win rate.
And jesus those koreans are fast.
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On June 22 2011 07:01 Yamulo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 06:57 Fr33t wrote:On June 22 2011 06:56 JoeSchmoe wrote:On June 22 2011 06:49 Slasher wrote:
Win Percentage by Race: Entire Tournament
Zerg: 34.38%
Protoss: 25%
Terran: 40.63%
you mean the Percentage of Players of Each Race lol it's ironic because terran actually had the lowest win rate by quite a margin If quite a margin is 3-5% than sure...... But i think it is interesting how some races do better in different regions. By this i mean zergs are doing really well in north America (10/16) in nasl, 5/8 in mlg, while terrans are dominating korea, and lets not forget about the European protoss that had a good showing at dream hack.
It's hard to deduce anything meaningful from a single tournament. Morrow wisely said in a dreamhack interview that you could replay a tournament and probably end up with different stats
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On June 22 2011 12:23 LagT_T wrote:
1) That disproportion is the win % linked in the OP.
2) The overrepresentation in the opening bracket is an issue I'm willing to discuss because I haven't found out how to solve it or if there is a need to solve it.
3) Same as point 1.
The point is that disproportion will also show up in the matchup win/loss percentages. For all the Terrans and Protoss to lose before the final round, Zerg must have extra wins vs. P and T beyond their representation in the starting population (and beyond 50/50.)
Remember, in a double elimination tournament, the *median* player loses *all* their games, and I believe the average player wins two.
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Selects average apm 373 holy shit, I didn't even think people hit that in sc2
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On June 22 2011 12:29 DarkRise wrote:
Lets Face it, Foreign terrans are really bad atm
Select is the only foreign terran that is decent which did poorly last MLG.
I wouldn't say foreign terrans in general more NA terrans probably. I imagine the EU terrans are still super strong but I don't know to much about the EU scene just seems they always have super strong terrans kinda like Korea.
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I think the most impressive statistic is this:
Gret0rp: Loses every single match. 0-6 (2-12).
27th place.
Qxc: Loses to ThorZain and SeleCT. 8-2
26th place.
Moonan: Loses every single match. 0-6 (3-12).
25th place.
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On June 22 2011 12:56 two.watup wrote:
I think the most impressive statistic is this:
Gret0rp: Loses every single match. 0-6 (2-12).
27th place.
Moonan: Loses every single match. 0-6 (3-12).
25th place.
Because Moonan took 1 more game off someone in a bo3.
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On June 22 2011 13:01 Suc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 12:56 two.watup wrote:
I think the most impressive statistic is this:
Gret0rp: Loses every single match. 0-6 (2-12).
27th place.
Moonan: Loses every single match. 0-6 (3-12).
25th place. Because Moonan took 1 more game off someone in a bo3.
The point is players losing every single match and placing higher than Anyone else in the tournament.
You cannot be top 32 and not win a single bo3. That's just pathetic tournament structure.
I can lose 6 bo3s too. I'm plat league.
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Wow. I already had a hunch from following the tourment and watching reps, but the Terran stats are pretty insane. They're almost identical to NASL. If there weren't so many Terrans, we might not have even seen one in the championship bracket at all :p Except MMA of course.
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On June 22 2011 12:56 two.watup wrote:
I think the most impressive statistic is this:
Gret0rp: Loses every single match. 0-6 (2-12).
27th place.
Qxc: Loses to ThorZain and SeleCT. 8-2
26th place.
Moonan: Loses every single match. 0-6 (3-12).
25th place.
This is BY FAR the worst part of the MLG system.
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Im pretty sure alot of those stats can't be real. I refuse to believe losira created near 400 banelings that simply isnt possible.
Edit: Ahh, post on top of page explains it.
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On June 22 2011 12:56 two.watup wrote:
I think the most impressive statistic is this:
Gret0rp: Loses every single match. 0-6 (2-12).
27th place.
Moonan: Loses every single match. 0-6 (3-12).
25th place.
Richman: 6-2
31st place.
Wow that is quite pathetic, its ridiculous how gretorp was still even in the championship bracket, he went 1-5 in dallas =/
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On June 22 2011 08:44 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 08:39 ChickenLips wrote:
APM is so useless, for example you can see select at 373 APM and MMA at 359 APM, but from watching both players in FPVODs and replays I can tell you that MMA is __much__ faster than select, select just spams 123123123123123123 all game long and people give him credit playing fast, whereas the true magicians are almost all of the time the Koreans and a few select Europeans (e.g. Strelok) who have impressed me the most with their hand speed. There are FPVODS from MMA? Link please? I want them @_@
You could download the replays and watch them from MMA's view point right (clicking on the camera icon)? Thats the same as fpv I think.
And check out sjows apm,you dont need to spam to be a top player! 
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lol at the map stats testbug the only map worth playing as zerg, xel'naga tal'darim and typhon peaks so skewed to p and t. Yet i still like playing those maps.
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