EPTOn June 14 2011 03:59 Naniwa wrote:
You just spent half a a year playing in the Black Dragon League for $3000. Surely you can play two more weeks in NASL for $50,000?
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
You just spent half a a year playing in the Black Dragon League for $3000. Surely you can play two more weeks in NASL for $50,000? | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:04 TheAuditor wrote: If you did that, the casters would have to be at the studio for just about 24 hours to accommodate everyone's schedule. I'm not too sure why the players are complaining. This is a league with a high prize pool. TBH NASL needs to ignore these players requests, because if they don't like it, they can leave and new players will be there to take the spots. They knew what they were signing up for, and if they aren't willing to set aside extra time in order to do their matches, or change their sleep schedule a little bit, then they can get out of the league and someone who is willing to will do that. I guess $50,000 doesn't speak loud and clear for some people as I thought it would. Um, it's casted from replays? Why wold casters be in the studio for 24 hours? A lot of people didn't know what they are signing up for, hence Naniwa's words and why he is dropping out. | ||
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Nighthawks28
United States232 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:24 Heavenly wrote: Um, it's casted from replays? Why wold casters be in the studio for 24 hours? A lot of people didn't know what they are signing up for, hence Naniwa's words and why he is dropping out. They aren't casted from replays. Games are casted live but aired later. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:04 TheAuditor wrote: If you did that, the casters would have to be at the studio for just about 24 hours to accommodate everyone's schedule. I'm not too sure why the players are complaining. This is a league with a high prize pool. TBH NASL needs to ignore these players requests, because if they don't like it, they can leave and new players will be there to take the spots. They knew what they were signing up for, and if they aren't willing to set aside extra time in order to do their matches, or change their sleep schedule a little bit, then they can get out of the league and someone who is willing to will do that. I guess $50,000 doesn't speak loud and clear for some people as I thought it would. There is more to playing in a tournament than money. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:28 Nighthawks28 wrote: They aren't casted from replays. Games are casted live but aired later. Ah, my apologies. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:41 Naniwa wrote: guess you guys are right, i didnt realise that it would be so bad times when i joined obviously, ive learned from my mistakes tho! which is why im withdrawing. only reason i even wrote it in public was so that maybe NASL would fix it for the future participants ( there is alot of room for improvement if they really want ) . I guess there are better ways to get my thoughts across. please ignore the comment above.  . quote from other page. do europeans lag that bad playing on US? I play on EU from US and it feels to me like i'm playing on US, I don't have any latency at all. I figured it was the same for Eu but obviously not. when i was at TSL finals i practised with some europeans and i had absolutely no lag on europe, But from europe to US is a completly different story  .Wait what? Why would you withdraw now (unless you are saying after this season, in which case your wording is deceptive)? You only have a few more games to go before it is either over or you have a chance to go to a LAN in which case there won't be many of the issues you had. Also, what are the improvements you would suggest? Going back and forth between servers likely wouldn't be ideal for the NASL, though allowing Europeans to play each other on the European server is a logical change that I think they should make. Share your thoughts! | ||
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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Zeiryuu
Philippines231 Posts
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
On June 14 2011 03:48 motbob wrote: Playoff brackets! :D Uhhh I think there might be an error in NASL's standings on their website. I don't think Morrow is at +9... Morrow 2-0 Rainbow +2 Morrow 2-1 TLO +3 Morrow 0-2 Kiwikaki +1 Morrow 2-1 Moon +2 Morrow 2-0 Vibe +4 Morrow 2-0 Artosis +6 Morrow 2-1 Fenix +7 Morrow 2-1 Grubby +8 Morrow 1-2 Sheth +7 So Morrow should be playing a tiebreaker against Ace... Xeris, can you comment on this? 1.  Zenio 7-2 (15-5) +102.  Ace 7-2 (15-8) +72. MorroW 7-2 (15-8) +74. NaNiwa 6-2 (13-4) +95. MC 6-2 (12-8) +46. KiWiKaKi 6-3 (13-6) +77. IdrA 6-3 (13-8) +57.  Fenix 6-3 (13-8) +57. SjoW 6-3 (13-8) +57. NaDa 6-3 (14-9) + 511. MaNa 5-4 (11-9) +212. HasuObs 5-4 (12-11) +112. TT1 5-4 (11-10) +114. DarKFoRcE 5-4 (11-11) +015. MoMaN 4-5 (12-11) +116. Axslav 4-5 (11-11) +016. CrunCher 4-5 (11-11) +018. BRAT_OK 4-5 (10-12) -218. Socke 4-5 (10-12) -220. dde 4-5 (9-12) -3Note that TLO gave up his playoff spot. Playoff Matchups: Zenio vs ddeMaNa vs IdrA / Fenix / SjoW / NaDa (10)Ace / MorroW (2) vs BRAT_OK / Socke (19)HasuObs / TT1 (12) vs IdrA / Fenix / SjoW / NaDa (9)Ace / MorroW (3) vs BRAT_OK / Socke (18)HasuObs / TT1 (13) vs IdrA / Fenix / SjoW / NaDa (8)NaNiwa vs Axslav / CrunCher (17)DarKFoRcE vs IdrA / Fenix / SjoW / NaDa (7)MC vs Axslav / CrunCher (16)MoMaN vs KiWiKaKiCruncher, Axslav... it's time to make like Lx in WCG and throw your match. Has there been any comment on this potential mistake yet? | ||
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cablesc
United States1540 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:01 DoomsVille wrote: The times are set because they record everything while the games are played. Gretorp and incontrol are casting in a studio to live games. So they have to do it during the daytime in california when everyone is at work. They can't just do it in the middle of the night. All of their staff can't be working all day and night. They have to do it during the daytime for the people in california. The only possible solution is to cast from replays. Other than that there isn't much they can do... I think they'll have to start casting from replays if they want to continue to attract top players from Korea and Europe. Judging by the number of walkovers we've had this year, and the potential drop-outs for season 2, it does seem like the schedule is a detriment to the non-NA's. And maybe the lag would be alleviated if you didn't have 2 casters joined into every game. Also the convenience of replay casting would presumably allow more production value to the show. More graphics, better pacing etc. TSL and IPL use replay casting and they've had success doing it. And it just seems like it's such and ordeal to live-cast unless all your players/casters are in the same location (like GSL or MLG). | ||
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
NASL has way too many games and then to have even more games for tiebreakers? They need to rethink their format. | ||
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kathode
United States265 Posts
Rooting for Fenix all the way! He looked so strong at MLG and hope that carries through :D | ||
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Phemtos
Canada163 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:45 Chicane wrote: Wait what? Why would you withdraw now (unless you are saying after this season, in which case your wording is deceptive)? You only have a few more games to go before it is either over or you have a chance to go to a LAN in which case there won't be many of the issues you had. Also, what are the improvements you would suggest? Going back and forth between servers likely wouldn't be ideal for the NASL, though allowing Europeans to play each other on the European server is a logical change that I think they should make. Share your thoughts! There's a very simple solution to that which would accomodate most of the players in Korea and Europe. Have them cast off replay. This way players could play at a reasonable time and the casting wouldn't be affected that much. Personally since it's an online tournament with everything being casted a day before I wouldn't really care that much as a spectator if they started casting it from replay instead. They might as well since everything is pre recordered already If it can help players like Naniwa to still play in the league. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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Absaroka
United States27 Posts
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iNViCiOUZ
Germany364 Posts
On June 14 2011 08:14 R1CH wrote: US to Europe is generally better, especially from TLHQ since we're on the East coast. The packets have to go to to I believe France? where EU bnet is, which is quite central to Europe. From TLHQ this takes 100ms, a reasonable ping. Europe to US is much worse since Blizzard located the US servers on the US West coast, adding another 80ms at least to get across the whole US, so EU to US would be closer to 200ms. Battle.Net is hosted on US West cost, but the game itself is hosted by one of the players (or an spectator) so it depends on the location of the hosted player and his internet connection. I played on a trial account from EU (Germany) to US with no lag in my 10 games (yes this says not much) | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On June 14 2011 15:55 iNViCiOUZ wrote: Battle.Net is hosted on US West cost, but the game itself is hosted by one of the players (or an spectator) so it depends on the location of the hosted player and his internet connection. I played on a trial account from EU (Germany) to US with no lag in my 10 games (yes this says not much) Host is almost irrelevant for SC2, All traffic passes through b.net servers and is delayed for (I think) 125ms extra by the server software itself. Blizzard's response to KESPA I suppose. Nobody on this planet will be able to host anything anymore without asking Blizz (and a server emulator is too easy to shut down in court). | ||
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