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abdiris
Profile Joined February 2011
United States8 Posts
June 13 2011 19:10 GMT
#21
On June 14 2011 03:56 GenoZStriker wrote:
BO1 :/ are you serious? I know these matches have to be broadcast but that kinda sucks to have your tiebreak be determined by one game.


This reminds me a lot of college football, where people at the end of the year like to rank the "1 loss" teams. My thinking has always been that if you don't want to leave it to chance (as a player), don't lose (since you'd then be a top seed). Otherwise, it's up to the tournament people to tie break in whatever way they see fit.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 13 2011 19:14 GMT
#22
I'm glad to see MoMaN made it into the playoffs, disproving those haters :DD
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
June 13 2011 19:15 GMT
#23
On June 14 2011 04:10 abdiris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 03:56 GenoZStriker wrote:
BO1 :/ are you serious? I know these matches have to be broadcast but that kinda sucks to have your tiebreak be determined by one game.


This reminds me a lot of college football, where people at the end of the year like to rank the "1 loss" teams. My thinking has always been that if you don't want to leave it to chance (as a player), don't lose (since you'd then be a top seed). Otherwise, it's up to the tournament people to tie break in whatever way they see fit.

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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 19:17:21
June 13 2011 19:17 GMT
#24
Maps? Will the players veto one map at the time from the NASL map pool until one remains?
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Mephyss
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Brazil128 Posts
June 13 2011 19:17 GMT
#25
So. I guess playoffs will be formed like this

A - 1, 10, 11, 20 (Zenio, Idra or Fenix or Sjow or Nada, Mana, dde)
B - 2, 9, 12, 19 (Ace, Idra or Fenix or Sjow or Nada, TT1 or Hasuobs, BRAT_OK or Socke)
C - 3, 8, 13, 18 (Morrow, Idra or Fenix or Sjow or Nada, TT1 or Hasuobs, BRAT_OK or Socke)
D - 4, 7, 14, 17 (Naniwa, Idra or Fenix or Sjow or Nada, Darkforce, Axslav or Cruncher)
E - 5, 6, 15, 16 (MC, Kiwikaki, Moman, Axslav or Cruncher)
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 13 2011 19:19 GMT
#26
On June 14 2011 03:57 Grackodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 03:53 Bluedraqy wrote:
Idra with 3 ZvTs. looking good!

As long as he doesn't get proxy 2 rax'd -_-


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Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 13 2011 19:24 GMT
#27
Nice, don't think we'll be seeing any special strategies or such since these aren't too important matches.

Will there be a restream for Europe aswell?
ㅈㅈ
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
June 13 2011 19:26 GMT
#28
Amazing that we get to see even more games now! xD
Only sad thing is that it is only BO1 :/
Anyway, many matches should compensate that.

Keep up the great work NASL!!
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#29
On June 14 2011 03:59 Naniwa wrote:
will be so nice when season is over so i can finally leave this league... unplayable lag and on insane times at night -_-;;


I didn't realize Europeans also had bad times - Koreans are always complaining their 3-6am slots, doesn't that translate to evening time in Europe? Or is Naniwa referring to when he moves to Korea? Anyways, =(

On the plus side, based on Motbob's latest full rankings - I think with TLO/Naniwa out, Tyler may avoid relegation.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
June 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#30
On June 14 2011 03:59 Naniwa wrote:
will be so nice when season is over so i can finally leave this league... unplayable lag and on insane times at night -_-;;


>.<
Sucks to hear, the league has so much promise, but obviously being international this was inevitable.

Good luck though! Dignitas FIGHTING!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 19:57:02
June 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#31
Sounds good!

Go go Nada! Meet Boxer in the Finals!
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 20:04:37
June 13 2011 19:58 GMT
#32
Naniwa..i am disappoint.

Koreans play with the same or worse lag with the same or worse time slots. Like 4 out of the top 10 are koreans. You are one of my fav players so no reason to say such comments. if you dont like to play in it or dont like the times thats your own call to make but to say its unplayable is ultimately an exaggeration and probably an excuse for your own struggles.

Moon MorroW July White-Ra Strelok
Squirtle Ret Select Boxer Sen

How many of them are even NA players? 1? No reason to bring latency into this.

EDIT:

Also, stream more naniwa!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 13 2011 20:02 GMT
#33
On June 14 2011 04:54 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 03:59 Naniwa wrote:
will be so nice when season is over so i can finally leave this league... unplayable lag and on insane times at night -_-;;


I didn't realize Europeans also had bad times - Koreans are always complaining their 3-6am slots, doesn't that translate to evening time in Europe? Or is Naniwa referring to when he moves to Korea? Anyways, =(

On the plus side, based on Motbob's latest full rankings - I think with TLO/Naniwa out, Tyler may avoid relegation.


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drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
June 13 2011 20:07 GMT
#34
On June 14 2011 04:58 TheResidentEvil wrote:
Naniwa..i am disappoint.

Koreans play with the same or worse lag with the same or worse time slots. Like 4 out of the top 10 are koreans. You are one of my fav players so no reason to say such comments. if you dont like to play in it or dont like the times thats your own call to make but to say its unplayable is ultimately an exaggeration and probably an excuse for your own struggles.

Considering he finished the season 6-2 I'd hardly say he's struggling. I don't really know how the time slots for the NASL work, but from what little I have read it seems like it really gives international players a disadvantage, or is at least very inconvenient for them.
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
June 13 2011 20:12 GMT
#35
On June 14 2011 04:10 abdiris wrote:
My thinking has always been that if you don't want to leave it to chance (as a player), don't lose (since you'd then be a top seed).


OOHHHHHHH

Damn I didn't realize all these players were intending to lose some matches to be in this position
Yeah you're right they should definitely decide to not lose next time
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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
June 13 2011 20:13 GMT
#36
On June 14 2011 03:59 Naniwa wrote:
will be so nice when season is over so i can finally leave this league... unplayable lag and on insane times at night -_-;;


There was a reason Jinro and Huk decided not to participate in NASL . I think it's safe to say you will be out of NASL 2? I hope to see you in the GSL. Naniwa fighting!
Don't mind me
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 13 2011 20:18 GMT
#37
On June 14 2011 04:58 TheResidentEvil wrote:
Naniwa..i am disappoint.

Koreans play with the same or worse lag with the same or worse time slots. Like 4 out of the top 10 are koreans.


Just because some players can win a series even under unfair conditions doesn't justify the way rules are set up.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
June 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#38
Yeah, I mean playing a max of three games a week in a $100000 tournament must be really hard.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#39
On June 14 2011 05:18 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 04:58 TheResidentEvil wrote:
Naniwa..i am disappoint.

Koreans play with the same or worse lag with the same or worse time slots. Like 4 out of the top 10 are koreans.


Just because some players can win a series even under unfair conditions doesn't justify the way rules are set up.


Well the rules are the rules, no one is being forced to participate. I really like Naniwa but he can choose to opt out if he doesn't like the format. If NASL wants to run it that way they have the right to, they're putting up the cash as a reward. If they set up rules that disfavour some players and those players choose not to sign up (eg. Naniwa), then that will send a message that maybe they should change.

But again, it's up to NASL, if what they're doing works for the majority of players and the general public then they're probably making good decisions.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#40
On June 14 2011 05:18 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 04:58 TheResidentEvil wrote:
Naniwa..i am disappoint.

Koreans play with the same or worse lag with the same or worse time slots. Like 4 out of the top 10 are koreans.


Just because some players can win a series even under unfair conditions doesn't justify the way rules are set up.


do europeans lag that bad playing on US? I play on EU from US and it feels to me like i'm playing on US, I don't have any latency at all. I figured it was the same for Eu but obviously not.
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