EPTStream Sniping - Page 7
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
On June 13 2011 12:37 Whitewing wrote: I have a solution: You have to play 2 new people before you can play the same person again when you queue random. So if I play person A, I can't play A again until after I play B and C, then I could play A again, or D, but not B or C, etc. You can still voluntarily play them in custom games. Wow, that is actually a great idea. I know i do watch some streams late at night, and sometimes the same person gets randomly picked (trust me, the streams i watched there would be no snipers) and i enjoyed the little rivalry that developed, but i think that the idea of not being able to play the same person 2x in a row is smart. It would be effective to stop snipping a little bit, but it would not eliminate it. | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
^---however if he is a hacker then changing your IP is basicly hacking 101 which makes my suggestion pretty dumb and since Undercover did use to hack against me all the time in wc3/sc2. I'm pretty sure Deezer knows how to do this. This is a interesting issue indeed, although i don't think there is anything that can be done about it. the thing is iNcontroL has a 20-30 second delay on his stream. I've tested it just by logging on/and off too see my name pop up on incontrol's friendlist. R1ch also noticed it. SO if he is able to get Stream sniped by Deezer (someone who searches 30 seconds after him) then thats the closest person to iNcontroLs mmr. So adding a delay wouldn't work. Now streamers have the option to add black screen's like iNcontroL did if they do not want too be stream sniped. This does however hurt their own stream. | ||
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Terakahn
Canada49 Posts
For the guys saying people could abuse it to not face players better than them. We'll say you can only block a limited number of people. But in retrospect, it's probably much easier to have an anti-matching setup with some delay. ie: If I play a game with you, the ladder search wont match me with you for 1-2 hours, or X number of games. What I'm really trying to avoid isn't someone being able to get a game with a streamer, but to prevent them from doing it over and over and over. Let's take it from a fan's point of view. Is it really entertaining if you're watching the same guy get matched with the same other player repeatedly? Or even the player's point of view. I know I personally, would start to get really tired and eventually stop streaming. Geoff handled it well, granted, but it just felt like a lot of unnecessary work to keep people entertained. Alternatively, the option to IPBan people from watching your stream. If someone's ruining your play experience by cheating off your stream. It's an easy fix. Either way, I'm just floating ideas around. I'd be completely comfortable with an idea being molded into something people could agree on. I just don't feel you should be able to choose who you're facing, under any circumstances on the ladder. If you really want to face them, it should be consensual on both sides, perhaps under a custom game. | ||
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Authweight
United States304 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
On June 12 2011 16:00 XenocideFTW wrote: Well, how could Blizzard prevent people from just blocking people that are better than them? I like the thought though. Maybe just implement it where you can't be matched up with the same person twice within ~5 games? there's a limit on how many you can block and blocking like 100 different people that will change each day is pretty hard | ||
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Bunnypanda
United States103 Posts
Streamer gets a overlay that covers his stream. Streamer queues up while the overlay is up. Streamer most likely won't get sniped if he is clever about it. Profit? | ||
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
Make it impossible to queue up a ladder game if you are watching a stream. Make it impossible to alt-tab during ladder games? but then how does that help with people with dual monitors... idk just brainstorming here | ||
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MasterJack
Canada215 Posts
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Krede
Denmark139 Posts
On June 13 2011 17:57 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I think some time down the road everyone will stream with a delay to fix problems like these. While that may very well become true, I think it would be a shame because it could possible ruin the interaction between streamer and viewers. (Obviously a part of my argument is that the better streamers interact with the viewers) | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Krede
Denmark139 Posts
On June 13 2011 21:53 Sanguinarius wrote: I believe its more on the streamer than the sniper. If you dont want people to possible snipe your games, dont stream. Plus, even with stream sniping, its hard to kill these pro players. Anything you get from a stream except early shenanigans could have been gotten the same from scouting. Of course you're right. But it is not really a good argument: If you dont want people to critize you dont socialize. If you dont wanna get stream sniped dont stream. But the fact that I wanna socialize or stream does not make it morally permissable for others to behave like a**holes. Maybe we can, maybe cant do anything effective to avoid stream sniping, but that matter of fact does not make it al right | ||
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anomaly0
United States21 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
EDIT: Just figured out someone has suggested this already. It's very good idea I think though. | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
On June 13 2011 11:23 Liquid`Tyler wrote: It's funny that the OP's suggestion of being able to block people from matching gets shot down as unfair when stream sniping is in violation of the same concept (the concept being that you don't get to pick who you play against when you play ladder). The argument that needs to be made is about which one is worse. I happen to think stream sniping is the less bad choice so I'm against the OP's suggestion. If anyone can explain how stream sniping is 100% fine but the OP's suggestion isn't, I'd love to hear it! I think it's necessary for you to say that they're both bad or they're both ok. Stream Sniping is 100% fine if you and the person agree on it and you wanted to make the game worth some sort of pride. Since losing a custom I feel isn't as bad as losing a Ladder match. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
Good ol' Deezer | ||
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