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On June 13 2011 17:57 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I think some time down the road everyone will stream with a delay to fix problems like these.
Then people like Idra and Incontrol will lose money! XD To be honest, when people try to stream snipe (CombatEX, all of team ROOT against Idra, etc.) I actually think it's hilarious to watch and it actually raises the viewer count... If people are using streams mainly to make money, I doubt they'd want any stream delay, it would hurt interaction with viewers AND block stream sniping, both of which lose the streamers viewers, and money 
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It would work well i there was a cap on the game blocking list. I don't think that every time a player loses to someone on the ladder they will just block the player so they don't have to play that person again. Most people believe that they are better than the person they lose to anyway, and it isn't like a starcraft player to just avoid someone for being better. Most of us like a chance to prove ourselves. So I totally agree with the OP's idea.
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Better solution:
If you are concerned about being stream sniped.
Don't Stream.
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I have to agree with the poster above me...
Nobody's forcing you to stream games, so the game shouldn't take it into account.
I don't know the technical details, but couldn't you just use a 10 minute delay?
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Sniping's perfectly fine.
People are so easily bothered by things these days. What's wrong with sniping? NOt a thing.
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bad idea.
because .00001% of the player base streams AND is important enough to be stream sniped blizzard needs to waste time with ladder blocking? Nahh..
Maybe if you have a better reason for this feature but as of you OP, no thx.
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He who chooses to stream will accept the consequences of streaming, the person who chooses to snipe or stream cheat will accept the consequences towards their reputation if they choose to do so.
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Sniping is fine, it's ghosting that's the real problem
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what pisses me off is the overwhelming amount of times a pro loses and they instantly blame it on stream cheating. It's like they can do no wrong and everyone that beats them sucks and cheats. If your gonna stream man up. Your basically giving all your viewers false information because you don't actually know if your opponent is cheating or not and when your up to 3k+ of delusional followers it hurts the integrity of said person ALOT.
TLDR; A select few streamers need to manner up
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anything to stop stream sniping should be done with the streaming service, not with sc.
there are options to set a delayed broadcast with some tools.
you can also just hide when you are searching for a game.
I have six screens and run as many streams as I can find when I ladder snipe.
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[B]On June 14 2011 11:56 Skank wrote:[/B Then people like Idra and Incontrol will lose money! XD To be honest, when people try to stream snipe (CombatEX, all of team ROOT against Idra, etc.) I actually think it's hilarious to watch and it actually raises the viewer count... If people are using streams mainly to make money, I doubt they'd want any stream delay, it would hurt interaction with viewers AND block stream sniping, both of which lose the streamers viewers, and money
Ya you're right. Thinking about it a bit more I actually don't think stream delay will be used for the live streams. I don't think it's worth it either to lose the interaction with the viewers etc. Maybe when players enter tournaments and want to stream those games, though. Just a 20s delay or so would help a lot in that situation.
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On June 12 2011 17:06 Demonace34 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 17:00 TrickyGilligan wrote:
I don't see why Blizzard should have to do anything about people using 3rd party programs to broadcast their games. If you put it on the internet, it's there for public consumption.
I've played hundreds of games, and never been stream sniped. Because I don't stream. Seems pretty simple to me tbh. Well tell that to people who actually make their money from Starcraft II, getting stream sniped and cheated is just annoying, especially if your opponent is watching your stream the whole time. Either way, I'm sure there are easier ways to implement a fix instead of saying "just don't stream" to an entire community that watches and loves SCII.
They make money from Streaming.
Means it's sort-of a job, and for some people a full-time job.
They won't get sniped every game they play and even if they are it doesn't matter… Really if I had 7k viewers all knowing that I got streamsniped and my opponent was watching my stream and I lost.
1. My pride wouldn't be hurt for losing since it was obvious why.
2. I earn enough money from commercials to shrug a tiny snipe off.
3. Who cares? I mean they wont lose tournaments due to streamsniping, and that's where the glory is.
Also why should Blizzard change something becuase of people streaming? That's not blizzards problem, they have lots of other stuff they should prio (Read: LAN).
Don't get me wrong, I love watching me some Streams and I am really thankful for the players who stream - but in the end, it's up to them if they want to risk getting sniped or not, not up to blizzard.
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It would be better to say that you can not play against the same player for X number of games, that way at the highest level players, like Incontrol, would not get stream sniped and also would not continuously play the same players time after time. It would however mean a longer wait to find an opponent since your limiting the pool of players that you will play against
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I'm just too fucking old.
What happened to integrity and a feeling of real accomplishment?
Are some people so miserable that the only way they can be happy is by thinking they make other people unhappy?
I think it might have something to do with TV "stars" like the ones from Jackass and Jersey Shore. People with no talent who get over with the trash of the world and become "famous".
If you watch someones stream while playing against them you are cheating. If you win by cheating on ladder it means nothing. Grow up and get a fucking life and do something useful.
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