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Hello TL, as always thank you for your time.
I find myself scratching my head as to why Blizzard seemed to make creep spread a little more hassle than it could have been. I understand that many of you readers must be scratching yours right now asking why I feel this way, as creep spreading is pretty linear in terms of execution.
When having one dedicated queen for creep spread, you will often times have a lot of tumors going every which-way. Or take for example when your creep becomes pushed back, or perhaps a tumor in the middle of your creep dies and you must supply a new one. This often causes an annoyance in a zerg's mindset.
Now instead of going into what I don't like about the creep spreading mechanics, let me tell you what I would like to see.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could sweep your creep tumors, both the active tumors and used ones, (while adding more around the edges with the shift key if need be) and then be able to spread all the tumors at once (while holding the shift key) AND being able to see the radius of where you can actually place those tumors?
Let me clarify with pictures (because I am a visual person) WHAT CREEP SPREAD LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/S5sc9.jpg)
WHAT CREEP SPREAD SHOULD LOOK LIKE
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QZJfU.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hRI4Y.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9pgZa.jpg)
EDIT: If you are still lost in terms of what I am suggesting, please allow me to paste what other players have summarized to thwart confusion. + Show Spoiler +Do you even understand his problem? If you select one Creep Tumor you can see where you can place the next one If you select two you wont get the range indicator.
All he wants is a range indicator for multiple creep tumors
How would you protoss/terrans feel if you had no Siegetank range indicator or pylon range indicator if you selected multiple of them... would be pretty dumb eh + Show Spoiler +When I double click, and get a lot of tumors to spread, sometimes I place them wrong because I can't see the limit of where they individually can all go to, and then the AI sometimes chooses the wrong one when you Click to spread. I like this idea a lot, and every Zerg player who has spread with 3 or 4 tumors selected at once MUST have thought about this.
edit: Yes. OP is simply saying that multiple selected tumors should all display a dotted line for their spread limits, just like the displayed siege tanks did. Wow. + Show Spoiler +LOL you guys read the thread ? Hes not asking for a e z mode button, he just wants creeptumors to show the radius when you have more than one selected. I was justing thinking about this too, it would be helpful but I don't think it'll be done + Show Spoiler +I agree on the radius. It appears when you select one tumor, but when you select some, you don't know where's the limit anymore. Clearly a fail from Blizzard imo.
Thank you for your time. Please leave a comment below with your thoughts and opinions. Remember say something constructive or just don't post at all <3 !
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people who play zerg are beyond the limits of greediness, on top - No it won't be good idea, creep tumors are annoying enough for the other races as they are, cba making it easy for zerg to creep over the map in less then a minute
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On May 29 2011 19:03 RAGEKalin wrote: people who play zerg are beyond the limits of greediness, on top - No it won't be good idea, creep tumors are annoying enough for the other races as they are, cba making it easy for zerg to creep over the map in less then a minute
Compelling and convincing argument from somebody who is no doubt above diamond.
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OP, I fail to see what are you whining about.
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I don't think creep spreading needs to be made any easier personally.
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Nothing in sc2 should be made easier at this point.
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I have always wondered this too, i have always found this annoying. And to anyone who says if it is like that it would be op, then i say this, your still spreading them the same distance just with a bit of a guideline of how far they can go.
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On May 29 2011 19:08 Sir_J wrote: OP, I fail to see what are you whining about.
He wants it so that you can see the radius of each creep tumor if you select more than one. You only see the radius when you select one, but if you select more the radius magically disappears.
I think this would be too much of a buff to be honest, having 1 creep tumor going in different directions is easy enough. Being able to send 5 in the same direction in an easier fashion would be borderline imba imo.
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LOL you guys read the thread ? Hes not asking for a e z mode button, he just wants creeptumors to show the radius when you have more than one selected. I was justing thinking about this too, it would be helpful but I don't think it'll be done
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I agree on the radius. It appears when you select one tumor, but when you select some, you don't know where's the limit anymore. Clearly a fail from Blizzard imo.
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Marines should also auto split vs Banelings, I just hate it when it takes 2 banelings to kill 10 marines. Clearly it should take 2 banelings to kill 1 marine.
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I think the better argument is for siege tanks, etc not having those range indicators when more than one are selected, just like creep tumours.
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I see no reason to change the creep tumor mechanic, and I've never heard anybody else complain about them before in the way you are.
My main race isn't Zerg, but I'm fairly certain you already can see the radius of the creep tumors already. The color is green if you can place it and red if you can't, or something like that.
The change you're calling for is purely aesthetic.
Besides, do you REALLY want fifty different radius-circles to show up when you select your creep tumors?
Didn't think so.
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I want Blizzard to make so force fields can not overlap on top of each other, but instead when you put 2nd FF with 1 hex on top of other it will be pushed away so you don't have to waste so many time to trying to precisely place them or waste more than the needed amount.
problem?
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this is only righteous. I also think spawning pool should make ultralisks for 50 minerals.
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On May 29 2011 19:23 B.I.G. wrote: this is only righteous. I also think spawning pool should make ultralisks for 50 minerals.
As long as it also shows an arbitrary radius too ^^
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It's simply and easy.
Ctrl-click all tumors, and spam clicks, but not everywhere. Start spam click from the end of creep and closer-closer to last active tumor
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ARRRRGH! Everyone who has replied to this thread does not understand the topic at all! The OP is not asking for a balance change. He's asking for a design change!
I'll say it again. This suggestion is not a balance change.
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On May 29 2011 19:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I see no reason to change the creep tumor mechanic, and I've never heard anybody else complain about them before in the way you are.
My main race isn't Zerg, but I'm fairly certain you already can see the radius of the creep tumors already. The color is green if you can place it and red if you can't, or something like that.
The change you're calling for is purely aesthetic.
Besides, do you REALLY want fifty different radius-circles to show up when you select your creep tumors?
Didn't think so.
You can only see them if you select (1) tumor, if you select more then the radius disappears. The problem the OP is trying to address is that it's much harder to drop tumors when you select 2 or more, like you'll click somewhere but it's too far and you get that annoying buzzing sound.
Anyways I think spreading multiple creep tumors is underrated already. People who are on top of that can spread their creep so quickly, it's ridiculous.
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Dotted circle makes perfect sense and I don't see why that shouldn't be added.
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