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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
May 25 2011 14:25 GMT
#201
ask first
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11964 Posts
May 25 2011 14:27 GMT
#202
On May 25 2011 23:20 Brillor wrote:
If i need to do something in middle of a laddergame ill leave instead of pause. Pause is just annoying for both and I don't see a reason for it to be on ladder.


Agreed. That would be the best solution. Remove pause. Either you fix it fast enough not to lose or you can leave. It would be different in a 2h+ Hero Defence or something like that though, but that isn't ladder.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 25 2011 14:28 GMT
#203
I lost at least 3 games due to some auto-unpausers.
I always say "pp then the reason of the pause"
But they just seem to see an easy win. That's what i think.

I guess it depends, some players are nice and will allow you to pause, aren't are just here for the win.
starcranium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States14 Posts
May 25 2011 14:30 GMT
#204
Pausing in game is not bm, sometimes things just happen. As long as someone explains why they're pausing, I don't mind and if they don't I just unpause after a minute. If I ever have to go for more than a minute, I'll just leave. It's only points, anyway.
The above is a very rare lurker post.
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
May 25 2011 14:30 GMT
#205
If my opponent asks for pause and gives an estimate timeframe, then I allow it. Else it's insta-unpause and his BM not mine, IMO.
bramapanzer
Profile Joined December 2010
83 Posts
May 25 2011 14:31 GMT
#206
I don't even know why they have a pause option in this game. If you're playing CoD, you can't pause the game. If you're playing Soccer, you can't pause the game. Even in sports where you can pause, there is a time limit to the Time-Out.

Blizzard implemented the pause feature the way they did for a reason. It is completely up to the opponent regarding length of pause. I would prefer them getting rid of pauses completely so this is a non issue. If you are doing other shit while laddering (which some people take VERY VERY seriously) don't be upset that the other shit loses you a game here and there.

Personally, I'll wait for a pause UNLESS they pause in the first min or two of game. I find that very BM. Seriously, why queue up a game if you have to go afk in the first minute? F-That, I'm unpausing.
HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
May 25 2011 14:32 GMT
#207
i nv unpause when someone pauses, but i can understand why they would unpause
Imagine there you are on a losing streak after some frustrating games and somebody just go like
Pausing,pp(some might not know it means please pause) etc...... and you just wanna get this over quick.
So yeah, a lose won't hurt very much.. just play another game.

ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
May 25 2011 14:33 GMT
#208
Yeah if you need to pause once in a 50 games and opponent unpauses then it's not a big deal, but if you pause every single game because you have 5 kids then it's your problem. Don't play the game if you can't have 20mins of free time.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
May 25 2011 14:35 GMT
#209
In 1v1s I always let them have a few minutes especially if they explain the situation. But I absolutely hate it when people pause the game in 3v3 or 4v4s. Seriously? You are going to pause the game and make 7 other people wait for you while you have to go pee or something?
NPHarris
Profile Joined May 2011
91 Posts
May 25 2011 14:36 GMT
#210
You ask you opponent whether you could pause a second.
If it's not important and he says no, it doesn't matter.
If it is important and he says no, the game shouldn't be more important.

Also, deal with it.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
May 25 2011 14:37 GMT
#211
On May 25 2011 23:09 Keilah wrote:
Well, here's one way to think about things:

I play Starcraft to have a fun and interesting game against challenging human opponents. I like to test myself and my ideas and my execution. And I like to see how things play out, for example, if I make a mistake at 6:00, will I be screwed at 7:00? If I micro well, will I win this battle, or is it hopeless? Let's find out!
Now, sadly interrupting the fun, something in real life happens. I don't expect it, you don't know what it is, it just happened and it requires my attention.
So, either I pause and you allow the pause, wasting 10-60s. Or I pause, you unpause, and I leave, wasting the entire length of time that we've already played. I mean, we went through 15:00 of a great game and soon enough we'll see the conclusion; you'd rather throw that away than wait a few seconds?
When you think about it this way, the reason I'm pissed when you refuse to allow the pause, is that you're wasting my time and yours by choosing to ruin a perfectly good game rather than wait a few seconds. Not to mention I think you're a total no-class bum with no sense of sportsmanship or courtesy.
I would never, ever unpause without at least asking for an explanation and waiting a bit, both because of common courtesy, and more importantly because I don't want to ruin the game for myself (or you). Do people really get more satisfaction from beating an afk person (ladder points, yay!) than they do from playing a good game?

As far as team games, don't you think it's 100x worse to ruin an entire game by unpausing when a person is unable to play, than it is to make several people wait a few seconds? If my options are 'pause' or 'leave' I will always attempt to pause for the sake of the game as a whole and my team mates. If I see you repeatedly unpause, I'll be forced to leave and hope my allies can control my units, but really... why ruin a perfectly good game like that?

The thing about 'you have to say something first' sort of makes sense, but sometimes it just isn't possible. If a keyboard fails, or something needs your attention RIGHT NOW, or something like that, it's not going to be possible to explain first. Recognize that fact and give the benefit of the doubt.

I'm also confused as to how anyone would gain an advantage by pausing? I mean, it's the middle of a battle, if I pause, it's not like I'm somehow gonna be better or you're gonna be worse when I unpause.

People who think there are no good reasons to pause, Idunno... you either have very little imagination, or you prioritize Starcraft way too highly. Or both.

tl;dr
You ought to allow pauses because waiting for a pause is better than wasting the entire length of time the game has gone on so far.

Lol what kind of ideal world do you live in where every game you play is so great. You realize 90% of the people who are laddering just want to win right?
In team games, I would definitely rather have the person leave the game because you get all their minerals and can control their units.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
May 25 2011 14:38 GMT
#212
"[D] Dealing with people who play even though they don't really have time, so they end up pausing every game"
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
May 25 2011 14:39 GMT
#213
If you just say "AFK 60 seconds" I'm fine with pausing. But at the same time if you just pause and walk away, and I type, "hey whats going on, hello? hello?" and don't get any response I'm not going wait around for more than a minute or two before just unpausing, at least on ladder. If I'm in a custom game i'll probably just leave, I don't have all day.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
Tikan
Profile Joined April 2011
France42 Posts
May 25 2011 14:40 GMT
#214
I allow pauses most of the time, but seriously, people pausing then coming back in the game 20-60sc later WITHOUT asking if you're ready annoy me so if I have any doubt my opp is gonna do that I'll unpause.
Whatever I still say "No, Sorry" and wait 10sc before unpausing.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 25 2011 14:43 GMT
#215
On May 25 2011 23:40 Tikan wrote:
I allow pauses most of the time, but seriously, people pausing then coming back in the game 20-60sc later WITHOUT asking if you're ready annoy me so if I have any doubt my opp is gonna do that I'll unpause.
Whatever I still say "No, Sorry" and wait 10sc before unpausing.


Teach me how you do to know with no doubt that he's gonna ninja-unpause himself ?
Man, I want that skill too !
Mwentworth56
Profile Joined January 2011
146 Posts
May 25 2011 14:47 GMT
#216
If somone gives me a reason then I wait about 5 minutes if they dont say anything they I dont care as much because I dont know what's going on or what there doing it could take a long as time if I dont know so I just start the game about 2-3 minutes without reason
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
May 25 2011 14:48 GMT
#217
I never had trouble with pauses, I guess master league is better mannered? Also in tournaments noone unpauses so really no problems, I just ask and they're like ok :o
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 25 2011 14:49 GMT
#218
I don't think I've ever seen anyone unpause if they've been asked first. unless it's in 4v4 or something, then it's kind of the diffusion of responsibility.
get rich or die mining
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
May 25 2011 14:52 GMT
#219
I unpause, maybe it's cause i enjoy trolling people. I go all in, i say that the race i'm playing is my offrace just to mess with people etc. I have fun doing it and it doesn't hurt anyone. It's kinda like ganking people in a MMO, it's part of the game and people will use it.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
May 25 2011 14:58 GMT
#220
On May 25 2011 23:48 SMMN wrote:
I never had trouble with pauses, I guess master league is better mannered? Also in tournaments noone unpauses so really no problems, I just ask and they're like ok :o

People are much more different when there's money involved... whereas the ladder = just play as many games as they can... and they want to win... doesn't really matter how they won...
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