EPTWhitch makes me think about it, it would free the studio for more Code S. Personally my biggest concern about Code S is that there is so small amount of games, that people get eliminated at very fast pace. The less games players have to fight each other the bigger the luck factor is, and i dont like it when people get lucky streaks instead of winning with pure skill. It leads into people like MVP dropping into code A etc...
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Humppis
Finland52 Posts
Whitch makes me think about it, it would free the studio for more Code S. Personally my biggest concern about Code S is that there is so small amount of games, that people get eliminated at very fast pace. The less games players have to fight each other the bigger the luck factor is, and i dont like it when people get lucky streaks instead of winning with pure skill. It leads into people like MVP dropping into code A etc... | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On May 20 2011 19:03 Parcelleus wrote: The problem isnt Korea, its everywhere else. This much is true, Korea can provide the venue but if a team does not possess the funds to send their players over then maybe Korea is not for them just yet. Partnerships with korean teams could be a possibility, but then you would need talented people with great networking and managing skills to pull it off. Team Liquid could do it so why can't EG/Dignitas/mouz etc? I see literally no barriers to this, it only takes the right people to make it happen. [edit] I share in the opinion however that there needs to be multiple tournaments running monthly in Korea to make it even more interesting for both international and national players. But this might be harder to pull off unless Starcraft 2 really starts captivating people the way BW does. And GOM has done so much for Starcraft 2 already it's ridiculous, they can't provide for foreign players any more than they have already done and (have to say it again) they have done SO MUCH for foreigners. If GOM was personified into human flesh I would consider spending the rest of my life with it. | ||
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tiaz
Sweden231 Posts
The point with Code S is that its supposed to be hard to get into. Why the fuck would anyone want free Code S passes handed out on a regular free basis??? It SHOULD be hard to get into Code S, and honestly: I don't understand the logic that its to hard to go through Code A but at the same token it would be better that winners of western tournaments gets into Code S.. So Code A is too hard to win so lets give other tournaments (and with that logic they have to be easier to win, right?) winners Code S-passes. I don't know about you but I'd be seriously pissed off if i was one of the many many many koreans in Code A that doesn't get an invitation to MLG or whatever. It would be like giving a gold medal to the guy who finishes third place. | ||
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
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DiamondTear
Finland165 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On May 20 2011 19:24 tiaz wrote: I can understand the OP's standpoint regarding notifications, it needs to be reasonably early so teams can prepare accordingly. What I don't understand is the other things.. The point with Code S is that its supposed to be hard to get into. Why the fuck would anyone want free Code S passes handed out on a regular free basis??? It SHOULD be hard to get into Code S, and honestly: I don't understand the logic that its to hard to go through Code A but at the same token it would be better that winners of western tournaments gets into Code S.. So Code A is too hard to win so lets give other tournaments (and with that logic they have to be easier to win, right?) winners Code S-passes. I don't know about you but I'd be seriously pissed off if i was one of the many many many koreans in Code A that doesn't get an invitation to MLG or whatever. It would be like giving a gold medal to the guy who finishes third place. They could always fly out and try to work through the open bracket, they don't need to be invited to play MLG. If winning MLG and getting that code S spot is so easy I'm sure they would. | ||
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Gorg
Germany261 Posts
On May 20 2011 19:26 Liquid`HuK wrote: gom already got ton of backlash for inviting foreigners to code a i think a direct invite to code s would be a great insult to korean players, especially since most players would do horribly in code s. most players would indeed. thats why only the winner of future mlgs will get a spot. and with such a competition at the mlg someone who wins there should do quite well in gsl code s. besides the korean invites i think players like naniwa, select, kiwikaki and idra have the best shot at winning the mlg and those players are definitely code s material. the korean players will have to adapt. the overwhelming majority of the viewers and fans wants to see koreans compete against foreigners and the gsl (GLOBAL starcraft league) wants to deliver as good as possible. | ||
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qubee
Netherlands39 Posts
So far, no Korean has ever had to qualify for a foreign event, but every single foreign has had to qualify for a Korean event. This is a big problem! i totally agree with this. eventhough koreans would most likely qualify for foreign events if they had to play qualifiers, i dont think it is fair to the ''foreign'' players in tournaments outside korea. | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
Also as I understood it's now harder to get knocked out from Code S as you play more matches in the groupstages so it's not as random as it once was. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On May 20 2011 19:56 Gorg wrote: most players would indeed. thats why only the winner of future mlgs will get a spot. and with such a competition at the mlg someone who wins there should do quite well in gsl code s. besides the korean invites i think players like naniwa, select, kiwikaki and idra have the best shot at winning the mlg and those players are definitely code s material. the korean players will have to adapt. the overwhelming majority of the viewers and fans wants to see koreans compete against foreigners and the gsl (GLOBAL starcraft league) wants to deliver as good as possible. Idra won't go for instance! He gave up his spot in code S! Select was in SK and also went away and kiwikawi also went to a GSL qualifier, lost and came back. So in those four players only naniwa would probably be insterested in going! | ||
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gNs.I-Jasa
United States211 Posts
then which means more koreans in foreign tournaments. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 20 2011 20:06 shell wrote: Idra won't go for instance! He gave up his spot in code S! Select was in SK and also went away and kiwikawi also went to a GSL qualifier, lost and came back. So in those four players only naniwa would probably be insterested in going! Just because they have been there before doesn't mean they won't go again. Even Idra have not ruled out the possibility of going back to Korea some time. | ||
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Gorg
Germany261 Posts
On May 20 2011 20:06 shell wrote: Idra won't go for instance! He gave up his spot in code S! Select was in SK and also went away and kiwikawi also went to a GSL qualifier, lost and came back. So in those four players only naniwa would probably be insterested in going! well besides idra i could see the others at least try code s. like yourself mentioning they came back after they lost in the qualifiers. code s is no qualifier, its the big deal. you get about 1k $ (dont know the exact amount) just for losing in first round there and every further round gets better of course. and its not like they will have to stay the whole month there. if they lose in the first round they just can fly back and participate in their normal tournaments. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
The only chance we will have of actually having constantly foreigners competing and winning in GSL is if some team picks 5 to 10 players and creates a teamhouse and that won't happen in the near future. SK did that with WC3 for some time and other did before with BW. | ||
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On May 20 2011 16:20 Mikilatov wrote: Xeris, you hit the nail so directly on the head that it defied physics and it shot through the world. I think direct code S seeds are really the only way to make it appealing enough to be worthwhile. You've gotta give Gom a lot of credit for all this foreign involvement though, they really are trying. The truth of the matter is, I don't think it's very economical for any party to send a player to Korea, really. Agree with you there, this is ideally the role of a sponsor. Is GOM paying to send the 4 Koreans to MLG? Maybe MLG sponsors should foot the bill when it comes to sending foreigners over. | ||
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On May 20 2011 21:30 Zorkmid wrote: Agree with you there, this is ideally the role of a sponsor. Is GOM paying to send the 4 Koreans to MLG? Maybe MLG sponsors should foot the bill when it comes to sending foreigners over. MLG is paying for the koreans to come to US, GOM is paying for the foreigners to go to Korea | ||
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Rabbitmaster
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