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On August 24 2011 10:36 The_RoK wrote:
Hey, there is so much inaccurate information being thrown around that I feel like I should say something.
First of all: To be a WCG Strategic Partner (SP is what they call National Organizers), you need to follow a set of rules, such as promoting Samsung, running a year long program and of course, paying WCG a % of your revenues. The % is said to be around 10%.
Second: The old Organizer, Cybersports Entertainment, is no longer in charge of the Canadian Program. The name of the new organizer has not been announced although it is also possible that nobody has been picked yet, nobody knows, not even Samsung Canada.
Third: WCG (Central) has apparently been told by Samsung that they need to generate revenues instead of generating only expenses. In the past, very few (if any) SP has ever paid the 10% fee that WCG wants. My guess is that WCG is now trying to get rid of those SP who never paid the 10% and is trying to enroll big businesses with deep pockets.
Lastly: Contrary to popular belief, you CAN'T pay you way into WCG Finals. Anyone who tells you that is lying! WCG will only allow SP to send players and ONLY under the condition that they have paid the 10% license fee. That said, nobody knows if there is a minimum amount, some people have floated the number of $100,000... With 80 SP throughout the World, $100,000 per country would represent just about 8 million bucks, roughly the cost of running the WCG program and putting together the World Final... So based on that, I am lead to think that the figure of $100K per country looks accurate. The only problem about this is that $100K is 10% of $1 million!!!!
I have spent the last 10 years doing gaming tournaments, I have never ever seen a single $1 million spent on sponsorship, not even for Arcadia Festival which was attracting 20,000 gamers over one weekend!
I have no clue where WCG is going ATM, but in my opinion it doesn't look good!
P.S. For people who think we hate the West... We don't! We just could not afford to bring our staff and equipment out there, too expensive! 90% of our admins live in Montreal, 100% of our gear is in Montreal!
So your kOre's contact. Interesting. Glad you cleared that up.
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No I am not k0re's contact, he is talking to someone else in former WCG Canada. I was the guy in charge of putting together the 2006 and 2008 Canadian Final @ La Ronde, I also managed some sponsorship for WCG Canada in 2006,2007,2008 and 2010. I am the former Ganeral Manager and founder of LAN ETS (2002-2006) and was the sponsorship manager for LQJR, LAN ETS and a few others (2002-2006). Some of your may know me as ETS_Trooper, WCG_Trooper, RokTrooper or more simply as Roch...
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On August 25 2011 22:37 The_RoK wrote:
No I am not k0re's contact, he is talking to someone else in former WCG Canada. I was the guy in charge of putting together the 2006 and 2008 Canadian Final @ La Ronde, I also managed some sponsorship for WCG Canada in 2006,2007,2008 and 2010. I am the former Ganeral Manager and founder of LAN ETS (2002-2006) and was the sponsorship manager for LQJR, LAN ETS and a few others (2002-2006). Some of your may know me as ETS_Trooper, WCG_Trooper, RokTrooper or more simply as Roch...
I am currently busy setting up CyberActiv Productions Inc. A company that will produce gaming events, help other events thrive and ultimately run a cross Canadian championship. We are based in Montreal but are looking for partners throughout the country. An official announcement will be made soon. Everyone will be invited to join the good fight, gamers, organizers and sponsors.
I love you, where are you guys located? I'm in Montreal too. Would these tournaments be taking place here?
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On August 26 2011 12:16 creamer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 22:37 The_RoK wrote:
No I am not k0re's contact, he is talking to someone else in former WCG Canada. I was the guy in charge of putting together the 2006 and 2008 Canadian Final @ La Ronde, I also managed some sponsorship for WCG Canada in 2006,2007,2008 and 2010. I am the former Ganeral Manager and founder of LAN ETS (2002-2006) and was the sponsorship manager for LQJR, LAN ETS and a few others (2002-2006). Some of your may know me as ETS_Trooper, WCG_Trooper, RokTrooper or more simply as Roch...
I am currently busy setting up CyberActiv Productions Inc. A company that will produce gaming events, help other events thrive and ultimately run a cross Canadian championship. We are based in Montreal but are looking for partners throughout the country. An official announcement will be made soon. Everyone will be invited to join the good fight, gamers, organizers and sponsors. I love you, where are you guys located? I'm in Montreal too. Would these tournaments be taking place here?
I've been working with Roch here from Trois-Rivieres, he's in mtl and so's 2 other guys we've been working with. So far Roch's work has been tremendous and trust me, you will be baffled and surprised by the first edition. Yes the first edition will be in the Montreal-ish area, but plans will have to stay a bit hidden until everything is settled. And if everything goes well folks, Canada's e-sports will go way beyond it's current level.
GO E-SPORTS!
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On August 24 2011 10:36 The_RoK wrote:
Hey, there is so much inaccurate information being thrown around that I feel like I should say something.
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Second: The old Organizer, Cybersports Entertainment, is no longer in charge of the Canadian Program. The name of the new organizer has not been announced although it is also possible that nobody has been picked yet, nobody knows, not even Samsung Canada.
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Thanks for this very interesting post. I have been trying to find information about WCG Canada for over a month and it has been a huge nightmare. I only found this thread today and it's the first time I feel like I have any clue what's going on.
I'm especially interested in your Second point which I quoted. How long ago was Cybersports Entertainment (CE) released from Canadian WCG Qualifier management responsibilities? Am I correct in assuming the very out of date www.worldcybergames.ca and also the Facebook page and group "WCG Canada" belong to them?
Some highly unprofessional person has been posting in a very confrontational manner on that page using the "WCG Canada" name. With no knowledge of all these politics, it literally looks like WCG is getting angry with their fans for wanting a WCG event, telling them to organize their own event if they want one so badly. It's extremely frustrating to read when you don't know all the info in this thread.
Here is the conversation I'm talking about. It is found on the Facebook page "WCG Canada." Please note that I did not post on this facebook page, I am not part of the conversation and only read it as a 3rd party. At first I was especially confused by the comment "Can't you guys realize there's no wcg canada as of now ?" which was said like it was obvious despite the complete lack of information.
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O man and here I was hoping for the one major SC2 event in Canada... =(
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They wanna make an online qualifier for starcraft 2.... just saw that on facebook :
' WCG Canada:
How many people would be ready to compete in a WCG Canada final for SC2! Online tournament, 20$ buy-in! We need a lot of people to make it happen! Winner goes to korea if it works out!!! Please post a comment saying you would. (Paypal payment only) '
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Canada409 Posts
YES, looks like there's still hope for WCG Canada! :D
Btw, how is the StarCraft2North Qualifier related to WCG Canada at all?...
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Starcraft2North keeps posting in any thread related to Canada, which is getting annoying.
As for WCG Canada, I really hope it's gonna work out.
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Sorry guys, one of our buddies are dumb. I apologize. Fingers crossed for WCG Canada.
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Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.
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On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.
they said, 64 man tourney is possible, and already have 23 signed up.
A lot more should be signing up because I doubt a lot of people knew till just recently that there is a tourney for WCG Canada
Spread the word!
Hope every top Canadian signs up!
Edit: doubt it'll be hard to get 41 more ppl to join.
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Didn't kiwikaki say he'd pay his own way to represent Canada? Is it possible to have this annnnnd kiwi :D:D?
EDIT: I don't want to put words in his mouth I vaguely remember a post and whether or not he'd still do that if there was a tournament being held is another story
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Canada1637 Posts
On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.
I agree, I want pretty badly for Canada to send people to WCG but this comes of seeming somewhat bizarre.
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Yeah this is all too hastily set up and how does $20 x 64 players = $5000 which is the minimum requirement to send a representative from Canada? If anything there would need to be at least some more information on how this would run exactly ...
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On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.
Yeah we would need more clarification. Maybe they found a small sponsorship to cover a part of it.
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I think they need to set up an official registration page on their website where players register for the tournament. At least that way they can get some actual numbers. (sorry if they have this already)
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hey guys, theres a post up at the WCG canada facebook page stating that if there is enough interest for a buy in tourny ($20) than there is a chance that WCG Canada will send 1 player to korea for the finals
please those who are interested or are like me and just want to see the canadian esports scene grow go and post stating that your interested in the idea!
( 57 so far there asking for 128 to make it a go)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/WCG-Canada/135336403145383
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