WCG Canada??

On May 19 2011 05:54 Holcan wrote:
chances WCG Canada sends someone for RTS to the main tournament is very slim, the organizers/volunteers dont like RTS.

example, my player won WCG the past two years (that were available) and one year the tournament was being held in LA, well instead of sending my player to LA they sent him to the WCG Pan-Am finals instead.

Moral of the story, WCG Canada has their priorities in the entirely incorrect place, and the chances of that changing anytime soon would require a changing of the guards at administrative positions with WCG Canada.

On May 19 2011 05:50 monx wrote:
Trying to get info for you guys. Not even sure SC2 in on their roster tough :|

On May 19 2011 06:42 Dark-Storm wrote:
Stephan likes SC2 and he and his GF are the main two people/ team representatives. prob will have SC2 this year. he was hinting at it last year if they put SC2 into WCG

On July 22 2011 20:18 Adebisi wrote:
So looks like WCG Canada won't be including SC2, they've announced LoL qualifiers, but that's the only game they have any sponsors for or something? The facebook group doesn't really seem to clear though...

Really disappointing, they've posted on the facebook group basically saying they'd do it but don't have the $$, I don't get it, seems to me there could easily be a volunteer group run the tournaments online, and the cost of sending 2 players for SC2 is much less than a full LoL team?

On July 23 2011 03:32 Torte de Lini wrote:


You're right, HuK is absolutely terrible.

On July 23 2011 03:31 Genie1 wrote:
The reason they don't pick games that are really hard to win in is because they want to win and at least have something come out of it and have not wasted money on the player. Yeah I know that sounds weird but they are not fans of RTS Games because of competitive it is and most of the time easily knocked out by better players that practice way more since Canadian aren't really the best at RTS games.

On July 23 2011 04:41 Torte de Lini wrote:


Do you really want me to list all the Canadian players that don't suck?

On July 23 2011 04:41 Torte de Lini wrote:


Do you really want me to list all the Canadian players that don't suck?

On July 23 2011 03:31 Genie1 wrote:
The reason they don't pick games that are really hard to win in is because they want to win and at least have something come out of it and have not wasted money on the player. Yeah I know that sounds weird but they are not fans of RTS Games because of competitive it is and most of the time easily knocked out by better players that practice way more since Canadian aren't really the best at RTS games.

On July 23 2011 04:41 Torte de Lini wrote:


Do you really want me to list all the Canadian players that don't suck?

On July 23 2011 03:31 Genie1 wrote:
The reason they don't pick games that are really hard to win in is because they want to win and at least have something come out of it and have not wasted money on the player. Yeah I know that sounds weird but they are not fans of RTS Games because of competitive it is and most of the time easily knocked out by better players that practice way more since Canadian aren't really the best at RTS games.

On July 25 2011 05:48 kOre wrote:
What do you guys think about doing an online SC2 Canada event where the top 2 go to Korea for WCG finals?

On August 23 2011 06:16 Burpies wrote:
So I guess it's confirmed that there isn't going to be StarCraft in WCG Canada year?

On August 23 2011 06:18 Inkarnate wrote:
That sucks, I thought it was going to be at ETS again?

On August 23 2011 06:19 TT1 wrote:
so another year passes and wcg canada still hasnt gotten their shit together, dont think this comes as a suprise to anyone anymore

On August 23 2011 06:22 kOre wrote:

From what I've been told, I was going to help set up WCG Canada SC but since no plans have been finalized it won't happen.


I will help get StarCraft shit together

On August 23 2011 06:30 TT1 wrote:


dude THEYVE HAD YEARS to prepare for this and they still couldnt accomplish anything, ffs even 3rd world countrys are gonna have sc2 reps for wcg... this is so fucking unfathomable

On August 23 2011 07:50 desrow wrote:
WCG just doesn't have any budget, only game they are holding so far is league of legends because they have a sponsorship for that game. you guys can QQ all you want, canada has barely "no scene" compared to the US and when they try to contact sponsors, why would sponsors sponsor them when the US is 10times bigger and their finals has more exposure ? The issue here is not WCG Canada, the issue is e-sports in general in canada. I went to WCG canada in 2008 or 9 when they had MLG in toronto in the same convention and the attendance was atrocious.

On August 23 2011 07:50 desrow wrote:
WCG just doesn't have any budget, only game they are holding so far is league of legends because they have a sponsorship for that game. you guys can QQ all you want, canada has barely "no scene" compared to the US and when they try to contact sponsors, why would sponsors sponsor them when the US is 10times bigger and their finals has more exposure ? The issue here is not WCG Canada, the issue is e-sports in general in canada. I went to WCG canada in 2008 or 9 when they had MLG in toronto in the same convention and the attendance was atrocious.

On August 23 2011 08:00 BigBirdY wrote:

PS- Why can't we still have canada wide tournies? and do a finals in toronto or montreal or vancouver?

On August 23 2011 08:00 KiWiKaKi wrote:
can i send myself without qualifications

On August 23 2011 08:03 Siliticx wrote:


Trust me, you can bet your ass that next year wou'll be proud to be in Canada.

On August 23 2011 08:04 TT1 wrote:


+1 can our teams pay our way to the grand finals?

On August 23 2011 08:04 TT1 wrote:


+1 can our teams pay our way to the grand finals?

On August 23 2011 08:00 KiWiKaKi wrote:
can i send myself without qualifications

On August 23 2011 07:50 desrow wrote:
WCG just doesn't have any budget, only game they are holding so far is league of legends because they have a sponsorship for that game. you guys can QQ all you want, canada has barely "no scene" compared to the US and when they try to contact sponsors, why would sponsors sponsor them when the US is 10times bigger and their finals has more exposure ? The issue here is not WCG Canada, the issue is e-sports in general in canada. I went to WCG canada in 2008 or 9 when they had MLG in toronto in the same convention and the attendance was atrocious.

On August 23 2011 08:00 KiWiKaKi wrote:
can i send myself without qualifications

On August 23 2011 08:18 LagLovah wrote:

The only way it will ever be viable is if the entire management is overhauled and someone is in a position that gives a damn.

On August 23 2011 08:00 KiWiKaKi wrote:
can i send myself without qualifications

On August 23 2011 08:35 kOre wrote:
For those that want to pay for themselves (or get their teams to pay for them) to go to WCG as representatives on Canada please PM me. I'll ask my contact about it and I honestly don't see why that wouldn't be allowed seeing as how there aren't plans to send anyone already.

On August 23 2011 08:18 LagLovah wrote:



It doesnt help when WCG Canada gives nothing to the players, no incentive, and ignores everyone in the scene that doesnt live in toronto or Montreal. WCG has been a disaster for years now, unorganized, poorly run, corrupt, one can literally not say enough bad things about it. If i was a sponsor I probably wouldnt even make it past reviewing recent events or management practices before I gave up entire on wasting my money.

I went to WCG finals for wc3 a few years back, and had such a poor overall experience that when I qualified for the next 5 years running I never even considered returning. IMO its pretty hard to have a 'scene' when you tell players, 'you will be paying 500-800$ per person to come to montreal because we hate western canada, upon arrival you will be given extremely vague event details, nowhere to practice or directions of any kind to help you in that regard, our schedules will be entirely wrong by over 8-10hours and you will play on old unreliable equipment. Sure creates a wonderful environment.

The only way it will ever be viable is if the entire management is overhauled and someone is in a position that gives a damn.

On August 23 2011 08:39 BigBirdY wrote:


What if 100 people want to pay their own way??

On August 23 2011 08:39 BigBirdY wrote:


What if 100 people want to pay their own way??

On August 23 2011 08:58 Benjef wrote:
I dont see why people like HuK and Kiwi cant pay there way there?

On August 24 2011 10:36 The_RoK wrote:
Hey, there is so much inaccurate information being thrown around that I feel like I should say something.

First of all: To be a WCG Strategic Partner (SP is what they call National Organizers), you need to follow a set of rules, such as promoting Samsung, running a year long program and of course, paying WCG a % of your revenues. The % is said to be around 10%.

Second: The old Organizer, Cybersports Entertainment, is no longer in charge of the Canadian Program. The name of the new organizer has not been announced although it is also possible that nobody has been picked yet, nobody knows, not even Samsung Canada.

Third: WCG (Central) has apparently been told by Samsung that they need to generate revenues instead of generating only expenses. In the past, very few (if any) SP has ever paid the 10% fee that WCG wants. My guess is that WCG is now trying to get rid of those SP who never paid the 10% and is trying to enroll big businesses with deep pockets.

Lastly: Contrary to popular belief, you CAN'T pay you way into WCG Finals. Anyone who tells you that is lying! WCG will only allow SP to send players and ONLY under the condition that they have paid the 10% license fee. That said, nobody knows if there is a minimum amount, some people have floated the number of $100,000... With 80 SP throughout the World, $100,000 per country would represent just about 8 million bucks, roughly the cost of running the WCG program and putting together the World Final... So based on that, I am lead to think that the figure of $100K per country looks accurate. The only problem about this is that $100K is 10% of $1 million!!!!

I have spent the last 10 years doing gaming tournaments, I have never ever seen a single $1 million spent on sponsorship, not even for Arcadia Festival which was attracting 20,000 gamers over one weekend!

I have no clue where WCG is going ATM, but in my opinion it doesn't look good!

P.S. For people who think we hate the West... We don't! We just could not afford to bring our staff and equipment out there, too expensive! 90% of our admins live in Montreal, 100% of our gear is in Montreal!

On August 25 2011 22:37 The_RoK wrote:
No I am not k0re's contact, he is talking to someone else in former WCG Canada. I was the guy in charge of putting together the 2006 and 2008 Canadian Final @ La Ronde, I also managed some sponsorship for WCG Canada in 2006,2007,2008 and 2010. I am the former Ganeral Manager and founder of LAN ETS (2002-2006) and was the sponsorship manager for LQJR, LAN ETS and a few others (2002-2006). Some of your may know me as ETS_Trooper, WCG_Trooper, RokTrooper or more simply as Roch...

I am currently busy setting up CyberActiv Productions Inc. A company that will produce gaming events, help other events thrive and ultimately run a cross Canadian championship. We are based in Montreal but are looking for partners throughout the country. An official announcement will be made soon. Everyone will be invited to join the good fight, gamers, organizers and sponsors.

On August 26 2011 12:16 creamer wrote:


I love you, where are you guys located? I'm in Montreal too. Would these tournaments be taking place here?

On August 24 2011 10:36 The_RoK wrote:
Hey, there is so much inaccurate information being thrown around that I feel like I should say something.
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Second: The old Organizer, Cybersports Entertainment, is no longer in charge of the Canadian Program. The name of the new organizer has not been announced although it is also possible that nobody has been picked yet, nobody knows, not even Samsung Canada.

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On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.

On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.

On September 02 2011 06:17 Cedstick wrote:
Uh, they said they need a lot of people for this to work. What if it doesn't? I'm not just throwing $20 in for an unofficial, make-shift chance for this to work, most especially after seeing how much trouble WCG Canada has gone through the last couple of years. I'd much rather wait for things to shape-up for next year.

On September 04 2011 11:29 Twistacles wrote:
if not them, monx is our only hope

On May 19 2011 11:42 monx wrote:


Indeed. And he has a 60 hours plus job by being the assistant of Nova Scotia's prime minister so whenever will be the event, we probably won't know about it until the last minute. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in late august or even early september.

And for being there last year at WCG Canada qualifiers, i was admin of the unofficial SC2 tournament, i know we made a good impression and Stephane told me he would like to have it on his roster so there is hope my friends.

On September 04 2011 23:11 AdamBanks wrote:
WCG Canada has always been terrible unless your're from quebec. Taking this on would not be a job i would enjoy as that company/organization has pissed off alot of canadian gamers in the past.

On August 25 2011 22:37 The_RoK wrote:
No I am not k0re's contact, he is talking to someone else in former WCG Canada. I was the guy in charge of putting together the 2006 and 2008 Canadian Final @ La Ronde, I also managed some sponsorship for WCG Canada in 2006,2007,2008 and 2010. I am the former Ganeral Manager and founder of LAN ETS (2002-2006) and was the sponsorship manager for LQJR, LAN ETS and a few others (2002-2006). Some of your may know me as ETS_Trooper, WCG_Trooper, RokTrooper or more simply as Roch...

I am currently busy setting up CyberActiv Productions Inc. A company that will produce gaming events, help other events thrive and ultimately run a cross Canadian championship. We are based in Montreal but are looking for partners throughout the country. An official announcement will be made soon. Everyone will be invited to join the good fight, gamers, organizers and sponsors.

On September 04 2011 11:20 HuK wrote:
?????????????

On September 04 2011 23:56 HuK wrote:
how about just invite me for wcg canada, i will represent u all very well ok?




kekeke v;o

On September 04 2011 11:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
I would rather a proper WCG be formed. Are there any details in how to get this going at all? I believe there were details of the whole process previously, but I can't seem to find it.

Give us a way, then let us see what and cannot be done.

On September 05 2011 11:24 CookieMaker wrote:
I dont understand why "WCG Canada" keeps speaking like a single person. WCG Canada is an organization title. If you are on your own and can't shoulder the responsibilities that are called for here, get help. Tons of people have voiced their willingness to help organize sponsors, players, etc. Stop making excuses for why this can't be big.

On September 06 2011 07:36 last.resistance wrote:
The largest cities left off your list are Quebec and Saskatoon. There is also the matter of no cities listed for New Brunswick, Newfoundland and PEI.

On September 04 2011 11:29 monx wrote:


you weren't there for the first one ...wcg 2010. that one was a treat.

On September 04 2011 11:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
Didn't WCG organize that one? :B

I could get Concordia on-board, but their internet is atrocious.

On September 07 2011 02:34 kOre wrote:
WCG Canada SC II 2011

The main reason we can't have someone win a qualifier and have their team pay for the funding is because it isn't fair to those who don't have that kind of funding and it discourages non-progamers to try out. I don't see what else can be done since even if they ran a 64 man $20 dollar tournament they still need around 3000 in funding and that isn't just going to pop up out of nowhere.

WCG Canada SC II 2012

Working on the structure right now. Will be contacting city representatives by the end of this week or early next.

On September 07 2011 10:25 monx wrote:
i am sure there are 200 canadians that are willing to give 20 $ to send a canadian player to WCG. Guess time is running out tough.

On September 07 2011 08:24 monx wrote:


nope i did. and it went well extremely well. Not like ETS this year.

On September 11 2011 05:26 kOre wrote:
It's true about the strength in numbers as well as embracing every game, but that's part of the problem. Too many games means less focus on each game. It's the "do one thing properly instead of doing everything half assed" kind of thought that I have.

On a side note, when was the last time WCG Canada was actually WCG Canada and not WCG East Coast?

I also remember WCG Canada trying to throw the final in Halifax. The City of Halifax was very excited, they provided us with the best venue in town for FREE and tons of services! Getting tons of local sponsors was also a done deal... But... "Someone" above WCG Canada hated the idea and killed the project overnight! They claimed that Halifax was too small of a market.

The bottom line is that eSports are more about economics than about the gamers. That's a huge difference with the gaming culture where a LAN party is more about the players than anything else. I guess that the magic will happen when someone will find a way to accommodate economics with the needs of the players.

Economics will always trump anything else. Despite the fact that Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver are big enough markets, remember that most head offices are still in Toronto and Montreal... It seems to me that some people working for some sponsors hate to travel outside of their beloved Toronto. As soon as we accept their sponsorship money, we become their slaves....

On September 12 2011 04:35 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
ok lets just shaft the west coast and have an ontario/quebec WCG. Would get most of the good players and that way we can send kiwikaki to korea and he can pay for his trip with his boatload of wsop money.

On September 06 2011 07:04 kOre wrote:
For the structure of this Canadian community I'll be looking for the main person from each of these cities to help me run events like city qualifiers and what not. If I'm missing any major cities just post here and I'll check it out. Right now it is based on active CSL teams.

On September 12 2011 05:39 tirentu wrote:
WCG Canada T_T



Not sure what the status of this is right now, but I'm the co-coordinator of the Dalhousie CSL team in Halifax. SallyDesu and I also work with Frag for Cancer, the biggest LAN in Atlantic Canada. If you get any of this running at all, please let us know, and we can work with you .

On September 23 2011 15:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
so is canada having a WCG for sc2 this year? T_T

On September 26 2011 14:28 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
ok signed up but not putting $20 in until I know more...