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On March 18 2011 20:59 Diks wrote:lol you nailed it
rofl as impeccable as that diagram is, it would require that the man's forearms bend. the wrists clearly don't control the elbows either, as they are in a rigid casing as seen in the Tychus assembly video.
also, i propose 2 men inside a marauder suit, as opposed to 3. they do require 2 food...
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On March 18 2011 21:27 teekesselchen wrote:I often wondered about it. Also: Let's say marines barely fit. What's about Marauders? They're like twice as wide... There is no way in hell for a guy to fit into Marauder arms because the armor has so broad shoulders. Now we could go with the theory that there actually are three guys inside that armor, one walking the thing and two just moving one arm each  I mean look at that width: http://starcraft.incgamers.com/w/images/thumb/2/22/SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg/200px-SC2_Marauder_Model.jpgNot even a Warcraft 3 Orc would fit in there. That's pretty good, should be accurate.
The Marauder armor i is easy to understand, since the marauder armor is about as big as the Iron Monger armor from the Iron Man film, the wearer is not 'wearing' the suit as much as actually piloting the suit inside a small cockpit.
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Maybe in the last picture the arms are just robot arms steered from inside the huge torso armor?
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On March 18 2011 23:46 Rashid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 21:27 teekesselchen wrote:I often wondered about it. Also: Let's say marines barely fit. What's about Marauders? They're like twice as wide... There is no way in hell for a guy to fit into Marauder arms because the armor has so broad shoulders. Now we could go with the theory that there actually are three guys inside that armor, one walking the thing and two just moving one arm each  I mean look at that width: http://starcraft.incgamers.com/w/images/thumb/2/22/SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg/200px-SC2_Marauder_Model.jpgNot even a Warcraft 3 Orc would fit in there. That's pretty good, should be accurate. The Marauder armor i is easy to understand, since the marauder armor is about as big as the Iron Monger armor from the Iron Man film, the wearer is not 'wearing' the suit as much as actually piloting the suit inside a small cockpit.
I was actually thinking more or less the same about marines as well. That the armor is more like the "Iron Man". The guys inside control it more than actually wear it.
Just the pure weight of that suite would make it impossible to move let alone run with
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In the intro, Tychus clearly grips at something when the 'gloves' are put on. The hands are mechanical.
Besides they did a "IRL" marine costume and I'd imagine it would be like that:
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On March 18 2011 18:23 CeRipH wrote: Great post. Very accurate anatomical drawings, although...what's wrong with the last guys face? Roach acid? :S it's a changeling
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The marine wears a suit of armor that is really like a cross between a ghost and a maurader. If you rewatch when tychus gets the suit put on him, the armor extends well past his normal body boundaries (for example his gloves are more like joysticks that control the hands than actual gloves) thus the discrepency in size.
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The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. + Show Spoiler +Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom.
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Well Blizzard games have always had these kinds of stylistic art, just take a look at any of their games, even diablo to some extent. I love the unique and colorful visual style of starcraft, even if sometimes the proportions are off.
Edit; and KevinIX just spoiled the entire sc2 Terran campaign :/
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On March 19 2011 01:20 KevinIX wrote: The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom.
I thought all marines were prisoners? The only way to get out of your cell is to join up with the marines.
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This thread is what TL is for. Thanks for the post, I laughed a lot. Raynor's shoulders do look kind of like a gorilla's, though. :S
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On March 19 2011 01:23 HeIios wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2011 01:20 KevinIX wrote: The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom. I thought all marines were prisoners? The only way to get out of your cell is to join up with the marines.
But Tychus was a prisoner in his own suit. Raynor for example could get in and out of his suit. Tychus was sealed in.
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On March 18 2011 19:24 WarChimp wrote:Sorry but this line got me Show nested quote + so I had my friend Maru the paint /graphic designer put together a blueprint to show how this is possible.
I read this and saw, Maru and Graphic designer and blueprint. Then you show us the diagram... and I laughed, I was expecting something really awesome instead we are presented with stick figures. Not saying that stick figures are bad but I obviously mistook the sentence wrong. It would seem that a lot of other people didn't get it xP
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On March 18 2011 21:34 Aeres wrote: I always figured that the inner arm portion of the Marine gauntlet armor was significantly thinner, so as to allow for more dexterity. If the plating is less bulky there, it's likely that the Terran inside the armor would be able to assume the "hanging arms" posture. Ah ha! A weakness that zealot psionic blades shall exploit.
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5/5 thread, great debate following it.
My question is why are all of the marines overcompensating so hard? is there some sort of... dysfunction shared by the entire terran male populace?
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On March 19 2011 03:37 SilverJohnny wrote: 5/5 thread, great debate following it.
My question is why are all of the marines overcompensating so hard? is there some sort of... dysfunction shared by the entire terran male populace?
Think it started out as artistic style and eventually they built backstory and stuff around it.
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Tychus and other marines, including Raynor, are significantly more jacked than the average human . . . and have insanely broad shoulders.
I'm pretty sure that the boots have quite a bit of length under the feet.
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This is why I think they should have kept the original SC 1 Marine suits. Those we're more realistic. These new suits are far fetched and clearly exaggerated.
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The marine's hands aren't in the hands of the suit. They hands are robots. The marines hands are on controls in the suits forarms.
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Blazinghand
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On March 19 2011 04:04 Ageless wrote: The marine's hands aren't in the hands of the suit. They hands are robots. The marines hands are on controls in the suits forarms.
This might explain the length of arms, but it doesn't explain the angle at which the upper arm comes out of the shoulder. Primarily, this is a problem of both shoulder width and the thickness of the armor between the upper arm and the torso (on both the arm and the torso) that make the marine suit difficult to understand. See the anatomical diagrams in the original post for why the shoulders are a problem.
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