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Marines always looked weird... now I know why. - Page 3

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TrinitySC
Profile Joined December 2010
101 Posts
March 18 2011 14:43 GMT
#41
On March 18 2011 20:59 Diks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 20:55 kyarisan wrote:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/1481107785_d55ad9241a.jpg

what about this? XD


lol you nailed it


rofl as impeccable as that diagram is, it would require that the man's forearms bend. the wrists clearly don't control the elbows either, as they are in a rigid casing as seen in the Tychus assembly video.

also, i propose 2 men inside a marauder suit, as opposed to 3. they do require 2 food...
Rashid
Profile Joined March 2011
191 Posts
March 18 2011 14:46 GMT
#42
On March 18 2011 21:27 teekesselchen wrote:
I often wondered about it.
Also: Let's say marines barely fit.
What's about Marauders? They're like twice as wide... There is no way in hell for a guy to fit into Marauder arms because the armor has so broad shoulders.

Now we could go with the theory that there actually are three guys inside that armor, one walking the thing and two just moving one arm each
I mean look at that width: http://starcraft.incgamers.com/w/images/thumb/2/22/SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg/200px-SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg
Not even a Warcraft 3 Orc would fit in there.

Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 20:55 kyarisan wrote:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/1481107785_d55ad9241a.jpg

what about this? XD

That's pretty good, should be accurate.


The Marauder armor i is easy to understand, since the marauder armor is about as big as the Iron Monger armor from the Iron Man film, the wearer is not 'wearing' the suit as much as actually piloting the suit inside a small cockpit.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 18 2011 14:50 GMT
#43
Maybe in the last picture the arms are just robot arms steered from inside the huge torso armor?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 18 2011 15:42 GMT
#44
On March 18 2011 23:46 Rashid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 21:27 teekesselchen wrote:
I often wondered about it.
Also: Let's say marines barely fit.
What's about Marauders? They're like twice as wide... There is no way in hell for a guy to fit into Marauder arms because the armor has so broad shoulders.

Now we could go with the theory that there actually are three guys inside that armor, one walking the thing and two just moving one arm each
I mean look at that width: http://starcraft.incgamers.com/w/images/thumb/2/22/SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg/200px-SC2_Marauder_Model.jpg
Not even a Warcraft 3 Orc would fit in there.

On March 18 2011 20:55 kyarisan wrote:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/1481107785_d55ad9241a.jpg

what about this? XD

That's pretty good, should be accurate.


The Marauder armor i is easy to understand, since the marauder armor is about as big as the Iron Monger armor from the Iron Man film, the wearer is not 'wearing' the suit as much as actually piloting the suit inside a small cockpit.


I was actually thinking more or less the same about marines as well. That the armor is more like the "Iron Man". The guys inside control it more than actually wear it.

Just the pure weight of that suite would make it impossible to move let alone run with
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 16:07:43
March 18 2011 16:07 GMT
#45
In the intro, Tychus clearly grips at something when the 'gloves' are put on. The hands are mechanical.

Besides they did a "IRL" marine costume and I'd imagine it would be like that:
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wizard944
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
194 Posts
March 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#46
On March 18 2011 18:23 CeRipH wrote:
Great post. Very accurate anatomical drawings, although...what's wrong with the last guys face? Roach acid? :S

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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#47
The marine wears a suit of armor that is really like a cross between a ghost and a maurader. If you rewatch when tychus gets the suit put on him, the armor extends well past his normal body boundaries (for example his gloves are more like joysticks that control the hands than actual gloves) thus the discrepency in size.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 18:06:36
March 18 2011 16:20 GMT
#48
The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. + Show Spoiler +
Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-18 16:21:06
March 18 2011 16:20 GMT
#49
Well Blizzard games have always had these kinds of stylistic art, just take a look at any of their games, even diablo to some extent. I love the unique and colorful visual style of starcraft, even if sometimes the proportions are off.

Edit; and KevinIX just spoiled the entire sc2 Terran campaign :/
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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
March 18 2011 16:23 GMT
#50
On March 19 2011 01:20 KevinIX wrote:
The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom.


I thought all marines were prisoners? The only way to get out of your cell is to join up with the marines.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 18 2011 16:30 GMT
#51
This thread is what TL is for. Thanks for the post, I laughed a lot. Raynor's shoulders do look kind of like a gorilla's, though. :S
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 18 2011 18:07 GMT
#52
On March 19 2011 01:23 HeIios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 01:20 KevinIX wrote:
The way Tychus was suited up is not the way marines are made. Tychus was a prisoner in the suit. He actually could not get out of his suit. Mengsk wanted Tychus to kill Kerrigan in exchange for his freedom.


I thought all marines were prisoners? The only way to get out of your cell is to join up with the marines.


But Tychus was a prisoner in his own suit. Raynor for example could get in and out of his suit. Tychus was sealed in.
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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
March 18 2011 18:13 GMT
#53
On March 18 2011 19:24 WarChimp wrote:
Sorry but this line got me
Show nested quote +

so I had my friend Maru the paint /graphic designer put together a blueprint to show how this is possible.


I read this and saw, Maru and Graphic designer and blueprint.

Then you show us the diagram... and I laughed, I was expecting something really awesome instead we are presented with stick figures. Not saying that stick figures are bad but I obviously mistook the sentence wrong.

It would seem that a lot of other people didn't get it xP
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
March 18 2011 18:29 GMT
#54
On March 18 2011 21:34 Aeres wrote:
I always figured that the inner arm portion of the Marine gauntlet armor was significantly thinner, so as to allow for more dexterity. If the plating is less bulky there, it's likely that the Terran inside the armor would be able to assume the "hanging arms" posture.

Ah ha! A weakness that zealot psionic blades shall exploit.
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SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
March 18 2011 18:37 GMT
#55
5/5 thread, great debate following it.

My question is why are all of the marines overcompensating so hard? is there some sort of... dysfunction shared by the entire terran male populace?
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 18 2011 18:40 GMT
#56
On March 19 2011 03:37 SilverJohnny wrote:
5/5 thread, great debate following it.

My question is why are all of the marines overcompensating so hard? is there some sort of... dysfunction shared by the entire terran male populace?


Think it started out as artistic style and eventually they built backstory and stuff around it.
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chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
March 18 2011 18:53 GMT
#57
Tychus and other marines, including Raynor, are significantly more jacked than the average human . . . and have insanely broad shoulders.

I'm pretty sure that the boots have quite a bit of length under the feet.
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
March 18 2011 19:02 GMT
#58
This is why I think they should have kept the original SC 1 Marine suits. Those we're more realistic. These new suits are far fetched and clearly exaggerated.
Ageless
Profile Joined January 2011
United States67 Posts
March 18 2011 19:04 GMT
#59
The marine's hands aren't in the hands of the suit. They hands are robots. The marines hands are on controls in the suits forarms.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 18 2011 19:41 GMT
#60
On March 19 2011 04:04 Ageless wrote:
The marine's hands aren't in the hands of the suit. They hands are robots. The marines hands are on controls in the suits forarms.


This might explain the length of arms, but it doesn't explain the angle at which the upper arm comes out of the shoulder. Primarily, this is a problem of both shoulder width and the thickness of the armor between the upper arm and the torso (on both the arm and the torso) that make the marine suit difficult to understand. See the anatomical diagrams in the original post for why the shoulders are a problem.
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