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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2369 Posts
February 26 2011 15:46 GMT
#1801
Can someone send me a few replays played on PTR 1.3?
Thanks in advance.
https://repmastered.icza.net
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
February 26 2011 15:46 GMT
#1802
My worry about the templar nerf is what happenes when my 4 or 5 templar that have been waiting for the past minute all get emped?

Do I just run away and wait for another 2 minutes now? I can't just warp in another round and go...I'm kinda totally dead if ghosts are on the map.

Feedbacking ghosts also becomes a MAJOR concern, cause what's more important, feedback the ghost and have 1 less storm?
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 26 2011 15:47 GMT
#1803
On February 27 2011 00:37 SetStndbySmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 21:52 StarcraftMan wrote:
On February 26 2011 12:20 Dommk wrote:
The amulet change would be fine if Ghosts were also changed drastically to adjust, right now it is no contest, High Temps just got flipped upside down, going from having instant storms to having to wait 45seconds



Ghosts don't do massive instant damage like HTs. Ghosts are used in PvsT as a defensive measure against HTs.

No matter how you look at it, warp in instant storm is very imbalanced. Warping in 2 HTs can easily and instantly hold off any Protoss expos against any bio ground army - that's ridiculous. Protoss can already warp in units to defend expos but it's absurd when they can warp in 2 HTs to defend any expo on the map.


This post is ridiculous because it's just as easy to say HTs, and colossus for that matter, are a defensive measure against stimmed rax units. That being said, the benfits of HT will just not be enough to compensate for the risk involved in being the first tier 3 tech of a match. If you catch a bad EMP you very well might just be dead, steamrolled by rax, gg- no emergency replacement templars. Why would you ever risk that if colossus can come into a match fulfilling that role immediately and without potentially having that power instantly revoked? Can you see why it may not be fun for a protoss player to feel like he has to go colossus?

BTW EMP outranges Feedback. There is no need to have entire AoE in range, just it's center point.
And StarcraftMan is complaining he can't just a move on a base... what's wrong with spreading units?
wwww
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
February 26 2011 15:48 GMT
#1804
Again, unique abilities will be removed, so newbies won't get hurt neither by warped-in high templars nor special tactics like archon toilets.
Fede
Profile Joined January 2011
Uruguay114 Posts
February 26 2011 15:48 GMT
#1805
On February 27 2011 00:44 monx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 00:41 Fede wrote:
Anyone noticed the gold expo added to Jungle Basin? sry if it has been mentioned


the map is imba and isnt on ladder anymore so who cares


Well i guess if blizz is making changes to it, they may as well put it back to the ladder map pool
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 26 2011 15:49 GMT
#1806
On February 27 2011 00:46 N3rV[Green] wrote:
My worry about the templar nerf is what happenes when my 4 or 5 templar that have been waiting for the past minute all get emped?

Do I just run away and wait for another 2 minutes now? I can't just warp in another round and go...I'm kinda totally dead if ghosts are on the map.

Feedbacking ghosts also becomes a MAJOR concern, cause what's more important, feedback the ghost and have 1 less storm?

Are sure they aren't going to just get the ability and 75 mana without the need to research?
wwww
SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
February 26 2011 15:53 GMT
#1807
On February 27 2011 00:49 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 00:46 N3rV[Green] wrote:
My worry about the templar nerf is what happenes when my 4 or 5 templar that have been waiting for the past minute all get emped?

Do I just run away and wait for another 2 minutes now? I can't just warp in another round and go...I'm kinda totally dead if ghosts are on the map.

Feedbacking ghosts also becomes a MAJOR concern, cause what's more important, feedback the ghost and have 1 less storm?

Are sure they aren't going to just get the ability and 75 mana without the need to research?


I would say 'I hope not', considering we don't need a high templar buff, but at this point I'd take anything for colossus to not be the focal point of all 3 matchups.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
February 26 2011 15:54 GMT
#1808
On February 27 2011 00:46 N3rV[Green] wrote:
My worry about the templar nerf is what happenes when my 4 or 5 templar that have been waiting for the past minute all get emped?

Do I just run away and wait for another 2 minutes now? I can't just warp in another round and go...I'm kinda totally dead if ghosts are on the map.

Feedbacking ghosts also becomes a MAJOR concern, cause what's more important, feedback the ghost and have 1 less storm?

I guess youre going to have to play better and not let all your templar get emped.
osten
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden316 Posts
February 26 2011 15:57 GMT
#1809
The thing that happened with fungal... Does it still do the same amount of damage or is that halved too? Does it deal damage faster or does the dot continue after the stun?
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
February 26 2011 15:58 GMT
#1810
From the SA forums and just verified on PTR:

[image loading]

Scouting was underrated anyways~
Kwaa
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden91 Posts
February 26 2011 15:59 GMT
#1811
So Vortex is something to use on your own army now, because otherwise you'll make the opponents army imortal for 1.5sec, while they can attack your army. I also think it's dumb to remove the amulet, it will only make HTs even more rare.
MACRO HARD!
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 26 2011 16:02 GMT
#1812
On February 27 2011 00:57 osten wrote:
The thing that happened with fungal... Does it still do the same amount of damage or is that halved too? Does it deal damage faster or does the dot continue after the stun?

I think it deals the damage faster.
wwww
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
February 26 2011 16:03 GMT
#1813
On February 27 2011 01:02 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 00:57 osten wrote:
The thing that happened with fungal... Does it still do the same amount of damage or is that halved too? Does it deal damage faster or does the dot continue after the stun?

I think it deals the damage faster.


Yes, it deals the damage over 4s instead of 8.
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
February 26 2011 16:07 GMT
#1814
On February 27 2011 00:58 Kambing wrote:
From the SA forums and just verified on PTR:

[image loading]

Scouting was underrated anyways~


in a game where scouting is already too weak, blizzard makes it worse for the race that needs it the most.

and broodlord morph cost is higher now too right? lol, ok blizzard.

I hope HotS has a beta, Im not sure I want to buy the expansion after a second really, really awful PTR patch (1.2 was hilarious with infestors not hitting air). it really, really makes me think that the balance team is living in a fantasy world.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
sKo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
February 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#1815
Time to archon toilet the hell out of everything for the remainder of 1.2.

But honestly, do they really not want people to use HTs anymore?
"My wife for hire!"
Nycaloth
Profile Joined October 2010
147 Posts
February 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#1816
On February 27 2011 00:58 Kambing wrote:
From the SA forums and just verified on PTR:

[image loading]

Scouting was underrated anyways~


wait, what?

is this for real? can anyone else confirm?
"I'm still confused, but on a higher level" ~Fermi
Achilles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada385 Posts
February 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#1817
On February 26 2011 23:50 Lurk wrote:
I can't build units either if i miss the minerals due to a missed mule.

"Chronoboost is not a "bonus", as it only lets you keep up with the other races, if you don't use it you WILL lose"

The same can be said for mule. Case closed.


Except if you miss mules you can spam them down and receive instant redemption while chronoboost doesn't stack.

Mules. Comforting poor macro since 2010.

I digress.

Just because terran players have decided they can go bio every TvP, get their asses kicked, and still do it for the next 300 games, doesn't make ht imba.
[rS]Gluske // http://www.rsgaming.com // Troku[tC]
Prinate
Profile Joined October 2010
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 17:40:51
February 26 2011 16:09 GMT
#1818
For anyone who is stuck with the patcher endlessly looping, run regular SC2 to get the latest patch and update to the blizzard updater. After that, when I try to run the PTR I just get the message that it's down, but at least the installer isn't looping anymore.
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 16:11:38
February 26 2011 16:09 GMT
#1819
On February 27 2011 00:59 Kwaa wrote:
So Vortex is something to use on your own army now, because otherwise you'll make the opponents army imortal for 1.5sec, while they can attack your army. I also think it's dumb to remove the amulet, it will only make HTs even more rare.


You could always cast it on the opponent so you can run away from an engagement in an awful position.

EDIT: Or to split your opponent's army and then run away at the last moment.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 26 2011 16:09 GMT
#1820
So what is the consensus on fungal? I have only seen a youtube video of someone dodging it with stalkers, but it looks kind of awesome to me. If it deals the same damage in half the time that's great, plus the bonus to armored, and the projectile seemed quite fast, it will be nice to see what kind of micro it adds to the game
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