EPTEU or NA ladder, which is harder? - Page 12
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MadVillian
United States127 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
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JitnikoVi
Russian Federation396 Posts
On June 04 2012 08:40 Steel wrote: everything related to america is inferior to anything else User was warned for this post we're canadians, we dont have the right to say this  | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 04 2012 08:40 ronpaul012 wrote: unless you are high masters/grandmasters it's pretty irrelevant. From personal experience I can say that diamond eu/na are pretty much the same level. The very top of eu may be higher, but that's mostly speculation from rankings, not an actual reflection of overall skill level. Then why even NA players talk that Eu is way harder ? , not only GM or master players , diamond , plat also. USA/NA are already good in so many things.. why you wanna always be better ? Eu is harder then NA , KR is harder then EU its simple and clear to everyone. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On June 04 2012 08:54 emc wrote: I didn't know the poll would be so one sided but then again this is an international community so it's going to have more EU bias. But I play masters on both EU and NA and I'd say they are just about even, I don't win or lose on one server more than the other, I really don't think people should vote unless they are actually masters in both servers. Take it for what it is, but if someone is trying to decide what account to buy, buy which ever will lag the least, because both servers are pretty much identical. Yeah I agree with this. If "2%" of the population is supposed to be Masters, it shouldn't really matter for the other 98% of the players on which server is harder. If you're gold/plat/diamond in NA you'll probably be the same in EU. Now the KR server is a whole different beast, but it's probably still the same thing for the lower ladder tiers. | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On February 10 2011 03:13 mdma-_- wrote: If u talkin bout a EU vs NA showmatch. They already had one. EU won 8-3. It would go so bad for NA had they made one more showmatch like that... | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 04 2012 08:54 emc wrote: I didn't know the poll would be so one sided but then again this is an international community so it's going to have more EU bias. But I play masters on both EU and NA and I'd say they are just about even, I don't win or lose on one server more than the other, I really don't think people should vote unless they are actually masters in both servers. Take it for what it is, but if someone is trying to decide what account to buy, buy which ever will lag the least, because both servers are pretty much identical. Then give me please screen , to your master EU account , and make it in game , with some proof , that you are a master EU player. On June 04 2012 08:57 Silentness wrote: Yeah I agree with this. If "2%" of the population is supposed to be Masters, it shouldn't really matter for the other 98% of the players on which server is harder. If you're gold/plat/diamond in NA you'll probably be the same in EU. Now the KR server is a whole different beast, but it's probably still the same thing for the lower ladder tiers. My friend was mid plat in EU , and top 10 diamond on NA , with terran , same play style etc... | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
What may happen is that when you are low masters on NA, you will end up high diamond on EU. Or you may hold a somewhat lower rank in your league. But most of us should not see skill difference. And there is no sense of getting an account to practice on a "more skilled" server until you get to the top due to match making mechanics. All you are doing is getting getting to play with more lag vs same skill level opponents | ||
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LarvaLamp
United Kingdom7 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 04 2012 09:00 iokke wrote: Up until you get to the very top you will not notice the difference because of how MMR works. You will be matched with equally skilled opponents. What may happen is that when you are low masters on NA, you will end up high diamond on EU. But most of us, especially in the middle of a league should not see skill difference. And there is no sense of getting an account to practice on a "more skilled" server until you get to the top due to match making mechanics. You can see skill diffrence very easy , and everyone can see it. There are many streams of EU and NA mid skill tournaments , everyone can compere play of players. | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On June 04 2012 09:04 pallad wrote: You can see skill diffrence very easy , and everyone can see it. There are many streams of EU and NA mid skill tournaments , everyone can compere play of players. Perhaps, not exactly what I was talking about. I've heard of a few regular players (not pro) get a 2nd account to practice on a "more skilled" server. Then they ladder and get matched to the players whose levels is same to who they were matched on NA because of matchmaking mechanics. If you are below mid masters (perhaps even below high masters), i dont think it makes any sense to do that | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On June 04 2012 08:54 pallad wrote: Then why even NA players talk that Eu is way harder ? , not only GM or master players , diamond , plat also. USA/NA are already good in so many things.. why you wanna always be better ? Eu is harder then NA , KR is harder then EU its simple and clear to everyone. lol, you're funny. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 04 2012 09:07 iokke wrote: Perhaps, not exactly what I was talking about. I've heard of a few regular players (not pro) get a 2nd account to practice on a more skilled server. Then they ladder and get match to the level players that they would get matched on NA because of matchmaking, so they gain nothing. If you are below mid masters (perhaps even below high masters), i dont think it makes any sense to do that Maby , I dont say that i dont agree. I have only one friend that has playing in NA serwer and he go up league , from mid plat to top 10 diamond. I watch also some NA , and EU dialy tournamens when i see that EU games was just better. But the fact is you can only check this be playing both serwers , i think EU is harder from what i see. NA players will say its the same , dunno ;P , many one day im gonna buy NA copy of the game. And why ? NA players are funny saying that for example destiny is NA top player... Other funny thing is Scarlett can beat 95% of top NA players. Yes i love her , but this is funny ;P | ||
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imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
KR is #1 maybe if people would stop arguing over who is the smartest retard then the other ladders would improve | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On June 04 2012 09:17 imMUTAble787 wrote: arguing over 2nd best is very stupid KR is #1 maybe if people would stop arguing over who is the smartest retard then the other ladders would improve Look at title.. "EU or NA ladder, which is harder?" Where do you see KR? . TL is community site , you gonna come to every thread and write stop arguing ....? | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
TT1 was about top 100, not more when he was in europe for training. When he went back to NA he said on twitter "yeah, rank 1 of the bad players!" or sth in those lines tslrevival clearly said EU ladder is harder, any pro says it. its pretty clearly KR>EU>NA even WITH korean influence on NA. | ||
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Oblivion753
United States73 Posts
If you are talking about homegrown talent this entire thread is meaningless and a little disingenuous. 1. All the best players from those servers at some point would be associated with KR influence and either practiced in or with Korean players. So making a EU vs NA match would be pointless. 2. Whichever server you do decide to pick (preferably the one close to you for latency) that one will seem harder because your MMR is more adjusted to face players of equal skill level where as the others wont be as well adjusted. | ||
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
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