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I haven't talked to Rice in probably more than 8 months, so I'm not sure what he's up to.
I think xHunters (Clan Lone's founder) plays SC2...but haven't talked to him since about October. He's probably very busy with IRL stuff these days, but I know he was active under different account names for a very, very long time.
F-L-Y definitely plays SC2; he's on my friends list. I don't know if he quite understands the flow of the game just yet, though. He was/is insanely good at War3 FFA, with over 200 APM averages in many of his FFA games that were lasting well over 45 minutes, and the critical decision-making that helped him decide who, when, and where to fight. He was a strong solo player in that game, too. The guy started with Elf and then transitioned to Undead, but honestly could play any race he wanted. I think when some things click in his mind for SC2, he's going to be an utter beast.
I know a few other of the strong FFA players from War3 ended up getting into SC2; I remember my friend Louis showed up on CellaWeRRa's stream a couple of months ago. But there's definitely a number of the FFA players who still prefer War3 because they just enjoy the heroes so much.
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Haha, my old clanmate linked me to this thread... I am surprised people still remember me...
I wasn't the greatest solo, but I was #8 on NA ladder once upon a time, I wanted #1 but people offered to pay me money to rush their accounts so I did that for a while and then never really played 1v1 competitively anymore after that... Switched to FFA, felt it was an interesting side of the game that no one really played outside of a small niche, lost interest in solo after that. I have no disillusions, I would have never been as good as someone like Grubby, but at the same time I feel I could have hang with the NA "pros" at the time like shortround, rs.wizard, etc.
I remember the last few days push to first level 50 ffa was so painful, search for 10 hours only to have 3 people gangrape me cuz I am on their friendlist, looking back I still had more fun playing FFA then solo. Sometimes it is so unfair and there is nothing you can do but fight your way out of 3 100/100 armies but it was much more satisfying, even tho most people that played FFA were pretty bad players in terms of micro/macro. Since everyone knows who dayvie is now, me and him used to destroy people in 2v2 in wc3 roc, good times, go 50-0 with nothing but mass witchdocs and footmen!
Supcom had potential but at it's core I think it was incredibly hard to balance because of exponetial growth of unit strength and resources during the duration of a game. Doesn't help that IMO the GPG team had no idea what balance was and was more interested in big robot explosions doing unlimited damage than actually making the game balanced. It was fun but I lost interest at the end so was just asking for a ban, the small community was full of with idiots obsessed with graphics with no clue whatsoever in making a game balanced and challenging. Aside from TheLittleOne and a handful of others, most people can be beaten by the same strat with decent micro/macro alone (not that there were many strats), the ceiling of skill was very limited and actual good players can be counted on 2 hands.
I tried to make myself care to play competitively (1 step down from pro level) in sc2 beta, did decent but now I am old and have responsibilities and what's important to me isn't the same anymore... Being really good at a game is not one of them anymore, I know if I really tried, I can be top 200 on NA ladder no problem but I don't have the desire to do so anymore... After a long day at work, the last thing I want to do is fight someone that requires 100% concentration and 0 distractions. That's why I just play income wars and facebook LOL. I played some team games with some old friends that are pretty good, so we got some good records but I quit doing that too, it's too draining and stressful. I don't want to come home just to shout to each other on mics trying to coordinate rushes and hold pushes. We only play without mics and on the flow of the game, so we actually lose to good players that has mics and solid game plans... And I come to find I hate losing because of half assing on my part, so all in all, I quit ladder. If I can't play to the level I want to play at, I whether not play at all.
Anyway if you want to play some crappy customs with me, msg me... There is a good chance tho that I will keep alt tabbing to facebook and play cityville tho lol... Sorry, I am just another nameless custom playing newb now 
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Thanks for coming here and posting this invisiblerice. Its nice to know that some old FFA pros still are alive and kicking.
Now all you Clan Lone people that played in 4v4 protocol. Do any of you still continue to play?
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On January 31 2011 23:18 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +
Invincible Rice wasn't on the same planet as the elite WC3 players whether it be in macro, micro or anything else.
Micro, maybe not although it was pretty damn good, macro, for sure. Quite a few WC3 gosus played him in ffa and couldn't beat him. FFA was so much more macro focussed. I know DeMuslim, Grubby etc played ffa too for fun from time to time to get their macro skills up and test the higher tier unit combinations. Also, this thread is not meant as Rice fanboyism in the first place. It's just that his replays gave me so much entertainment, I'd love to see him play again.
I played against Grubby in a FFA once, it was on an 8 (4v4) player map where he was in a corner with other people directly to both sides, and I was alone in the other side of the map. Got mass frost wyrms in peace and he still raped me with a smaller army that wasn't focused on anti air, after having eliminated both people around him.
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All hail rice clan, the most awesome BW clan to ever exist.
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On February 03 2011 13:58 InfernoRice wrote: Doesn't help that IMO the GPG team had no idea what balance was and was more interested in big robot explosions doing unlimited damage than actually making the game balanced. It was fun but I lost interest at the end so was just asking for a ban, the small community was full of with idiots obsessed with graphics with no clue whatsoever in making a game balanced and challenging.
One might say that they were bad and wrong, perhaps?
I pray that you didn't ever expose yourself to the mess that was SupCom2.
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On February 03 2011 13:58 InfernoRice wrote:Haha, my old clanmate linked me to this thread... I am surprised people still remember me... I wasn't the greatest solo, but I was #8 on NA ladder once upon a time, I wanted #1 but people offered to pay me money to rush their accounts so I did that for a while and then never really played 1v1 competitively anymore after that... Switched to FFA, felt it was an interesting side of the game that no one really played outside of a small niche, lost interest in solo after that. I have no disillusions, I would have never been as good as someone like Grubby, but at the same time I feel I could have hang with the NA "pros" at the time like shortround, rs.wizard, etc. I remember the last few days push to first level 50 ffa was so painful, search for 10 hours only to have 3 people gangrape me cuz I am on their friendlist, looking back I still had more fun playing FFA then solo. Sometimes it is so unfair and there is nothing you can do but fight your way out of 3 100/100 armies but it was much more satisfying, even tho most people that played FFA were pretty bad players in terms of micro/macro. Since everyone knows who dayvie is now, me and him used to destroy people in 2v2 in wc3 roc, good times, go 50-0 with nothing but mass witchdocs and footmen! Supcom had potential but at it's core I think it was incredibly hard to balance because of exponetial growth of unit strength and resources during the duration of a game. Doesn't help that IMO the GPG team had no idea what balance was and was more interested in big robot explosions doing unlimited damage than actually making the game balanced. It was fun but I lost interest at the end so was just asking for a ban, the small community was full of with idiots obsessed with graphics with no clue whatsoever in making a game balanced and challenging. Aside from TheLittleOne and a handful of others, most people can be beaten by the same strat with decent micro/macro alone (not that there were many strats), the ceiling of skill was very limited and actual good players can be counted on 2 hands. I tried to make myself care to play competitively (1 step down from pro level) in sc2 beta, did decent but now I am old and have responsibilities and what's important to me isn't the same anymore... Being really good at a game is not one of them anymore, I know if I really tried, I can be top 200 on NA ladder no problem but I don't have the desire to do so anymore... After a long day at work, the last thing I want to do is fight someone that requires 100% concentration and 0 distractions. That's why I just play income wars and facebook LOL. I played some team games with some old friends that are pretty good, so we got some good records but I quit doing that too, it's too draining and stressful. I don't want to come home just to shout to each other on mics trying to coordinate rushes and hold pushes. We only play without mics and on the flow of the game, so we actually lose to good players that has mics and solid game plans... And I come to find I hate losing because of half assing on my part, so all in all, I quit ladder. If I can't play to the level I want to play at, I whether not play at all. Anyway if you want to play some crappy customs with me, msg me... There is a good chance tho that I will keep alt tabbing to facebook and play cityville tho lol... Sorry, I am just another nameless custom playing newb now
Thanks for the input 
Sounds like you would have a blast playing "Phantom mode". Have you tried that?
8 People enter the game. All are set the allied by default. One, maybe 2 are "Phantoms". They are the bad guys. It's everyone verse the Phantom(s). The problem is there's no indicator of who is who. Phantoms get bonus money/supply over time.
The players are generally bad and being a Phantom can be quite easy. However, it is quite satisfying rolling up a non-Phantom, looking around, realizing "I can kill everyone" and just eliminate Phantom and non-Phantoms alike alone
Phantom mode be up your alley but the player quality might even be lower than Free For All. Being a non-Phantom and going for kill-alls might be fun though!
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Sounds like the Unconq I heard about from SupCom.
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haha, i used to be in clan THE with pencil, and i've seen a few of ur replays rice, you really should try ffa in sc2 with protoss, a warcraft 3 player would love it, mothership town portals, sentry protection scrolls, mass warden - er stalker. i wish there was an ffa ladder myself as i've got a pretty decent record which u can approximate by level of ffa achievement vs. # of games played (finally a use for achievements), but as there is no rating or ladder, it is hard to guage skill as win % discrepancies rely very much on luck and playstyle rather than solid ffa play when there is an open opponent pool.
and seriously guys do you have to come into ffa or team threads and dump on everyone with remarks about how skill-less the game type is? there is plenty of skill required for ffa, random and arranged teams alike, and discussing it isn't a threat to the 1v1 game type at all. seriously all u guys are kanye at the vma right now, we know 1:1 is king you dont have to shout it every time some other format is mentioned.
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Oh wow, those 3v3/4v4 random team records on him are quite impressive. Definitely a ton of potential there, you know he must've carried at least 1-2 teammates' worth in many of those games. Shame he doesn't want to be a progamer :<
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I'm pretty sure I played him back in the day.
Going 3-0 in FFA puts you really high in the AMM.
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At first I thought the name was reffering to Hon/dota ricing heroes. And after reading the op (which was quite exhilarating btw) Im glad you shared this with us.
Does anyone perchance know where I could go to see some good VoDs of WC3 (Undead particularly), im not a big fan of watching replays without commentary unless im trying to get better at a game (sorry if this isnt the place to ask)
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Wow Rice, thanks for posting here =)
Thx for the great entertaining WC3 content you provided, I know I was very Ill in bed one week and your replays made it a great week anyway hehe.
I can perfectly understand that you cannot commit so much time to a game anymore when getting older.
Still, SC2 games usually don't last longer than 30min, so there's no real excuses to play some more from time to time 
And of course, PencilWarrior, F-L-Y, and all other great FFA players as well. And Slack for keeping that site running all this time.
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Where is Pencil Warrior? Can't believe Mr Leung replied haha.
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On February 03 2011 15:54 carbon_based wrote:
haha, i used to be in clan THE with pencil, and i've seen a few of ur replays rice, you really should try ffa in sc2 with protoss, a warcraft 3 player would love it, mothership town portals, sentry protection scrolls, mass warden - er stalker. i wish there was an ffa ladder myself as i've got a pretty decent record which u can approximate by level of ffa achievement vs. # of games played (finally a use for achievements), but as there is no rating or ladder, it is hard to guage skill as win % discrepancies rely very much on luck and playstyle rather than solid ffa play when there is an open opponent pool.
and seriously guys do you have to come into ffa or team threads and dump on everyone with remarks about how skill-less the game type is? there is plenty of skill required for ffa, random and arranged teams alike, and discussing it isn't a threat to the 1v1 game type at all. seriously all u guys are kanye at the vma right now, we know 1:1 is king you dont have to shout it every time some other format is mentioned.
Clan THE was started by me (and pencil... and blah blah blah the 10 people you need or whatever, but i was chieftan for a time! haha) I passed it to Pencil after going on break from wc3 for a month. Remember Confuse by any chance? Wow so nostalgic
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don't mean to resurrect this thread, but seeing some old names show up here is pretty nolstalgic to me and I'm sure some people who were really into wc3 during the early 2000's would appreciate this. I just remember Rice being amongst my favorite players to watch because the battles were so big and crazy in ffa. Other names like apm70, spirit.moon, rival.showtime, and of course grubby represent a time when the pro-scene was at the top, and boxer, yellow, Jolly, and Grr were still duking it out for bw supremacy.
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