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http://www.wcreplays.com/page?section=interviews&id=20
http://www.wcreplays.com/articles.php?get=186
Does anyone know if this guy made the transition to SC2? Both his macro and micro was totally insane.
I don't know how many people remember him, but his replays are for sure my most favorite RTS experiences of all times.
I've played all kinds of RTS since Dune, I started watching replays with SC1, was speechless when watching SlayersBoxer and Julyzerg for the first time, but no other player made me fall from my chair the way Rice could.
I watch sc2 vods and reps now 90% of the time, but I still have an old version of WC3 running to be able to watch his replays from time to time, somehow they never get old.
He was already a very good WC3 1vs1 player but then made the transition to FFA, 1v1v1v1
Soon he was rank 1 with insane win ratio. He was so good, that people had to team 3vs1 vs him as soon as they found out it was him. And then he still won.
1v1 is fair. FFA is not. There's hidden teaming, politics, backstabbing etc involved. Rice didn't need that, he just owned them all.
When you had a 100/100 army and he too, you would lose all and sometimes he didn't lose anything.
He would be such a great SC2 player, but since he stopped playing wc3 I never heard anything about him again, does anyone know what he's doing these days?
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Why would anyone that was supposedly so good transition to FFA instead of 1v1 when there's nothing to gain from it aside from some e-fame?
I would think that noone good plays FFA (regularly) in wc3, just like noone does it in sc2. I would imagine you overestimate his skill.
To answer your question: I have no idea.
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FFA in Warcraft III is fun. FFA in SC2 is shit. In fact, FFA in War3 plays out more like Starcraft 1v1's, funnily enough.
Rice probably never gonna play again. Miss those Clan Lone days. And PencilWarrior was pretty amazing too. Not shabby at 1s, and great at FFA.
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I would imagine you overestimate his skill.
I really don't.
As soon as he had a large enough army he was unbeatable. And he had the micro, macro, scouting, game sense to usually get to that point.
FFA in WC3 was indeed very different from 1v1. in 1v1 you wouldn't get large armies that often. FFA was more macro based.
He was a very good 1v1 player, but he was insane in FFA, with stats like 50-10 on ladder. I find WC3 ffa a lot closer to SC2 than WC3 1vs1, that's why I'd love to see him play SC2
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This is awesome. I was actually wondering what happened to this guy, but I don't know him from WC3. He was really big in Supreme Commander with the name Unconquerable. One of the best players in that game, he was notorious for being rude and impolite, but only because he offered help that worked and would make you win games, not help that allowed you to play long drawn out games which is what the SupCom fanboys wanted.
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Oh wow RDon, thanks for that info 
Yes he was like that in WC3ffa too lol. A typical ffa game could take like 60min, but sometimes even multiple hours. He didn't like that, as soon as his army was strong enough he made sure the game was over fast. And yes he had some arrogance but I kind of liked his sharp remarks, added to the entertainment  Bit like Idra I guess.
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On January 31 2011 22:47 Zandar wrote:
1v1 is fair. FFA is not.
1v1 is competitive. FFA is not.
Invincible Rice wasn't on the same planet as the elite WC3 players whether it be in macro, micro or anything else.
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FFA is kinda like paintball, the person who wins does so because he is an opportunist and either camped and shot people or rambo'ed and got everyone. The person with the best positioning but least amount of skill can easily win in sc2 if he turtles and doesnt get attacked til late when everyone else is weak.
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Invincible Rice wasn't on the same planet as the elite WC3 players whether it be in macro, micro or anything else.
Micro, maybe not although it was pretty damn good, macro, for sure. Quite a few WC3 gosus played him in ffa and couldn't beat him.
FFA was so much more macro focussed.
I know DeMuslim, Grubby etc played ffa too for fun from time to time to get their macro skills up and test the higher tier unit combinations.
Also, this thread is not meant as Rice fanboyism in the first place.
It's just that his replays gave me so much entertainment, I'd love to see him play again.
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Hahaha yeah I remember watching a few of the replays, blademaster with 5 claws +12 and orb + bloodlust and spirit link, rawr , quite funny, but Wc3 ffa had almost nothing to do with 1on1, the time people gave him to get to his invincible army was nowhere near the time you had in a 1on1  , but when he did get the army/mapcontrol he wanted he was obviously very beasty in FFA :D
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On January 31 2011 23:14 Atlare wrote:
FFA is kinda like paintball, the person who wins does so because he is an opportunist and either camped and shot people or rambo'ed and got everyone. The person with the best positioning but least amount of skill can easily win in sc2 if he turtles and doesnt get attacked til late when everyone else is weak.
Your analogy was like comparing bronze level play and not high level play in paintball. Please don't disrespect paintball. High level play is nothing like you mentioned.
And I watched a few games of this guy. It looks like he plays mostly no-names and bad players so it's hard to judge skill.
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On January 31 2011 23:06 RDon wrote:
This is awesome. I was actually wondering what happened to this guy, but I don't know him from WC3. He was really big in Supreme Commander with the name Unconquerable. One of the best players in that game, he was notorious for being rude and impolite, but only because he offered help that worked and would make you win games, not help that allowed you to play long drawn out games which is what the SupCom fanboys wanted.
Hunh...I always wondered where Unconq came from, because he was definitely too good to not be from some other RTS. He's the only player I ever played that I could demolish early game and still never beat, regardless of my advantage. I took mid against him on Seton's when the exp's were still there and still lost to him. Dude was sick.
Also, HEY RDON!
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FFA is more based on luck and trash talk than skill...
Sure its fun... and awesome to watch but... SC2 shouldnt be balance around FFA.
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On January 31 2011 23:14 Atlare wrote:
FFA is kinda like paintball, the person who wins does so because he is an opportunist and either camped and shot people or rambo'ed and got everyone. The person with the best positioning but least amount of skill can easily win in sc2 if he turtles and doesnt get attacked til late when everyone else is weak.
That's the thing, he didn't do that. He was constantly on the move, having great map control and scouting info and was a constant threat to the 3 other players all the time.
And I agree, SC2 ffa isn't fun.
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W3 macro != SC2 macro, not even by a long shot. Ask every W3 progamer that switched to SC2.
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Where can I download his replays, and what patch is the replays from?
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On January 31 2011 23:27 LagT_T wrote:
W3 macro != SC2 macro, not even by a long shot. Ask every W3 progamer that switched to SC2.
I know. WC3 1v1 had no real macro. Just stay on 1 base forever and small skirmishes.
But WC3 FFA really was much closer to SC2 1v1. Mass expanding, big armies, economic play, map control etc
But let's not let this thread go into another SC2>WC3 discussion please, I agree with that already anyway
This thread is about a great player who seems to have done as well in Suppreme Commander as in WC3 ffa.
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On January 31 2011 23:34 rawe wrote:
Where can I download his replays, and what patch is the replays from?
I think there's a zip somewhere with all of them, can't find it so soon but if I do I'll post it here.
Meanwhile some of them can still be found with the webarchiver:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.homanx.com/extra/ffa
patch was 1.16 I think
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On January 31 2011 23:38 Zandar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 23:34 rawe wrote:
Where can I download his replays, and what patch is the replays from? I think there's a zip somewhere with all of them, can't find it so soon but if I do I'll post it here. Meanwhile some of them can still be found with the webarchiver: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.homanx.com/extra/ffapatch was 1.16 I think
How do I watch a 1.16 replay? I really feel like playing some FFA now, need some inspiration
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