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hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
January 30 2011 23:50 GMT
#141
lol@ the idiots doubting moonglade - your the type of trash who cant watch a replay and tell the skill of a player, your only measure is "did he win? (without cheesing)"
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
January 30 2011 23:59 GMT
#142
As I said in another thread, I sure hope they at least asked players like Sjow and White-Ra first, otherwise this was extremely poorly handled.
acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
January 31 2011 00:02 GMT
#143
sjow and white-ra aren't in korea atm if you haven't noticed
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2011 00:07 GMT
#144
On January 31 2011 08:50 hagon wrote:
lol@ the idiots doubting moonglade - your the type of trash who cant watch a replay and tell the skill of a player, your only measure is "did he win? (without cheesing)"


Yeah good thing moonglade proved himself today to all the doubters.

ohwait
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
January 31 2011 00:08 GMT
#145
On January 31 2011 09:02 acie wrote:
sjow and white-ra aren't in korea atm if you haven't noticed


Perhaps they would be if they had gotten an invite for Code A. The idea of the invites must surely be to get the best foreigners in to GSL, not a "Hello, thank you for coming to Korea!"
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 31 2011 00:14 GMT
#146
So should they save spots for foreigners who aren't even in Korea, only to risk them not showing up to play? What guarantee do they have that they would show?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
YoungNeil
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada328 Posts
January 31 2011 00:17 GMT
#147
On January 31 2011 08:50 hagon wrote:
lol@ the idiots doubting moonglade - your the type of trash who cant watch a replay and tell the skill of a player, your only measure is "did he win? (without cheesing)"


Thank you for your measured, logical explanation of why you believe mOOnGLaDe will be successful in the GSL. Seriously, if your main argument is a vague and baseless attack on the analytical skills of others, find something else to say. Show some goddamn reasoning, don't just call the other side idiots and call it a day.

Most people aren't doubting mOOnGLaDe because they think he's a bad player. They're doubting him because other excellent players like HayprO, TorcH, KiWiKaKi iNcontrol, and arguably even Ret, have failed to achieve any significant success in the GSL. It's a really tough competition, and while Glade dominates SEA, he's had little direct competition with players from the rest of the world. He did defeat Loner and hold his own in a series against HuK, so I'm hopeful. Still, there's definitely cause to be unsure about how successful he'll be, so please don't just insult us all and assume we'll change our minds immediately. I mean, your only point (other than calling your opponents idiots) is that we only judge players based on how much they win, and not how well they play. mOONGLaDe has been overwhelmingly successful in most of the tournaments he's entered, so that's exactly the opposite of an accurate criticism. People know that he's won a lot at home, they're just unsure of how he'll do against tougher competition in Korea.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 31 2011 00:17 GMT
#148
On January 31 2011 09:14 Tachion wrote:
So should they save spots for foreigners who aren't even in Korea, only to risk them not showing up to play? What guarantee do they have that they would show?


I think the idea is to make sure they have passports and perhaps sign a contract to agree to show up. I thought actually that the whole point of the invitations was to make it less risky to participate in GSL as a foreigner, not just to inject foreigners into Code A.

I feel that their picks are fine since they are all good foreign players, but in the future I'd prefer it if they extended the invitation to people who wouldn't necessarily risk trying to qualify for Code A, but would come if they could guaranteed participate.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 00:29:48
January 31 2011 00:25 GMT
#149
On January 31 2011 09:14 Tachion wrote:
So should they save spots for foreigners who aren't even in Korea, only to risk them not showing up to play? What guarantee do they have that they would show?


It's been months since John announced there would be invites, that's a lot of time for a talks with the players. Give them on or two weeks to give a definite answer, if things look uncertain at the preliminaries day, give the spot to the highest ranked foreigner(like they did now). It can't be that hard.

GOM/John never said anything(afaik) about that the players need to live in Korea before getting an invite, it's of course silly.

edit: Just think what would have happened today if say Haypro hadn't been there. Honestly, Artosis would probably be next in line for an invite. Do you realize how stupid that would have been?
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 31 2011 00:32 GMT
#150
On January 31 2011 08:11 OverZero wrote:
Anyone know anything about this (Z)Yeah that is replacing (T)NEXLiveForever?


I think the Yeah is part of his sentence but it got picked up by the TLPD algorithm. The players from this thread are playing tonight to see who gets his spot.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
January 31 2011 00:35 GMT
#151
On January 31 2011 01:44 Foxt wrote:
I dont understand what is the point of letting some people exclusive right to just skip qualifiers for tournament?

And what is the point also, with that people can choose who they can fight against?

And this whole concept of code A and code S?

What the hell kind of tournament GSL is? this is just ridicilous

Real tournament would not be about club of elitists who dont need to play their way to up.

Real tournament would be tournament, where people need to actually PLAY their all the way from bottom to up.


Various sports use the same concepts....it ain't just a korean starcraft thing.
acie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States247 Posts
January 31 2011 00:39 GMT
#152
John has repeatedly said that you have to pay your own way to get to korea /have the courage to come to korea, so obviously they weren't sending out invites to come to korea but invites to the gsl. The fact of the matter is - you have to be in korea to join the gsl and those were the 4 best foreign players in korea at the time of the qualifier.
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
January 31 2011 00:43 GMT
#153
I hope Artosis gets in, GSL 5 will be too sexy
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
January 31 2011 00:45 GMT
#154
On January 31 2011 09:43 Rawenkeke wrote:
I hope Artosis gets in, GSL 5 will be too sexy

Me too, then we might get some casting variety.
HOLY CHECK!
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 31 2011 00:46 GMT
#155
On January 31 2011 09:45 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 09:43 Rawenkeke wrote:
I hope Artosis gets in, GSL 5 will be too sexy

Me too, then we might get some casting variety.

Haha nice, But who would they get to cast with tasteless? I wouldn't want him solo.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 01:42:15
January 31 2011 00:49 GMT
#156
Actually, Tasteless is pretty awesome solo if you watch some of his early BW stuff for GOM like the invitational.

I think if top level players want a seed, they should go to Korea and commit. <EDIT: Even the best players need time to adapt to the culture/system there>

Also, moonglade should change his ID to a non-warcraft name.
QQmonster
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada240 Posts
January 31 2011 00:52 GMT
#157
You're asking people to uproot their lives to go live in korea and spend their lives training to become the best at a video game. While this may be fine to some people, for many it is not an option. Maybe you will see good players go for a month or two as a vacation/experience type thing, but very few will pull an Idra, dedicating their lives to playing Starcraft and living in korea.
EX-top 10 guildwars player yeye XD
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 31 2011 00:55 GMT
#158
On January 31 2011 09:52 QQmonster wrote:
You're asking people to uproot their lives to go live in korea and spend their lives training to become the best at a video game. While this may be fine to some people, for many it is not an option. Maybe you will see good players go for a month or two as a vacation/experience type thing, but very few will pull an Idra, dedicating their lives to playing Starcraft and living in korea.


The very definition of being a PROfessional starcraft player is dedicating full time to playing starcraft. If you're not willing to do it, then don't turn pro. Just do it as a hobbie.
Don't mind me
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 31 2011 01:04 GMT
#159
On January 31 2011 09:49 0neder wrote:
Actually, Tasteless is pretty awesome solo if you watch some of his early BW stuff for GOM like the invitational.

I think if top level players want a seed, they should go to Korea and commit.

Also, moonglade should change his ID to a non-warcraft name.

Yea but i doubt he'll cast like he did back in the day when he was solo. But if we're gonna bring up GOM, then Tasteless and SDM would be the best combo. Too bad hes retired though
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 01:12:06
January 31 2011 01:07 GMT
#160
On January 31 2011 09:55 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 09:52 QQmonster wrote:
You're asking people to uproot their lives to go live in korea and spend their lives training to become the best at a video game. While this may be fine to some people, for many it is not an option. Maybe you will see good players go for a month or two as a vacation/experience type thing, but very few will pull an Idra, dedicating their lives to playing Starcraft and living in korea.


The very definition of being a PROfessional starcraft player is dedicating full time to playing starcraft. If you're not willing to do it, then don't turn pro. Just do it as a hobbie.


they just dont want to do it in korea

sjow for example i think would like to go to korea but he wants to play europe tournaments too (IEM being often mentioned on his stream). so unless his team is willing to pay for his ticket/hotel/whatever back and forth from europe/korea, he has to pick one.

there was a discussion on LO3 today about why would u want to go to korea and possibly never win and have no income because the talent pool there is so high and there really isn't any weekly tournaments running. NA/europe always have tournaments running every weekend, you can stay in europe/NA, be comfortable and probably make more than u would moving to korea. if money isn't an issue to the players, im sure they'd like to go to korea.
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