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Australia8532 Posts
On January 31 2011 09:46 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 09:45 Lonyo wrote:On January 31 2011 09:43 Rawenkeke wrote:
I hope Artosis gets in, GSL 5 will be too sexy Me too, then we might get some casting variety. Haha nice, But who would they get to cast with tasteless? I wouldn't want him solo.
Pretty sure Mr. Artosis failed..
On January 31 2011 09:32 JBright wrote:I think the Yeah is part of his sentence but it got picked up by the TLPD algorithm. The players from this thread are playing tonight to see who gets his spot.
According to the LR thread  Yeah has replaced  ZeNEXLiveForever as he has been drafted to the military..
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Wow that's just so exciting to see those awesome "foreigners"!!! I really hope they do awesome in Code A. I'll be lookin forward to watching them!
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I love how people just assume anyone who plays starcraft and is good wants to go to Korea. People keep dropping names and it's like how do you even know the dude wants to go, or tried to get an invite? Even if a player says they'd love to go to Korea it doesn't mean that when it really comes time to do it they'd end up going. It is a pretty big commitment to move to another country to play a video game which you'll most likely not succeed at making a living at, living with a bunch of other dudes in a small apartment.
Most "pro" players by your definition are doing this as a hobby or are students something like that. There is a small percentage of the pros that are actually pros only playing starcraft as their primary means of making a living. And even those players are doing side things like giving lessons to earn income, it isn't just off of winning events there simply isn't enough money.
The fact that GOM is even putting in the effort to include foreign players in any way is great and I'm happy they are doing it. It is crazy to think they aren't taking it seriously and doing their research to figure out the best available players they can get, that will also drive ratings. They could be offering nothing to the foreign community at all, I'm happy they are attempting to provide the opportunities they are.
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On January 31 2011 10:12 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 09:46 Gao Xi wrote:On January 31 2011 09:45 Lonyo wrote:On January 31 2011 09:43 Rawenkeke wrote:
I hope Artosis gets in, GSL 5 will be too sexy Me too, then we might get some casting variety. Haha nice, But who would they get to cast with tasteless? I wouldn't want him solo. Pretty sure Mr. Artosis failed.. Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 09:32 JBright wrote:On January 31 2011 08:11 OverZero wrote:Anyone know anything about this  Yeah that is replacing  NEXLiveForever? I think the Yeah is part of his sentence but it got picked up by the TLPD algorithm. The players from this thread are playing tonight to see who gets his spot. According to the LR thread Yeah has replaced ZeNEXLiveForever as he has been drafted to the military..
I just went over the LR thread again and I think they meant that Yeah is going to fill in the extra spot in Code A while the top Code A players from the January season get to fight for NEXLiveForever's spot in Code S.
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Am going to do a little bit of a defensive post in point form here. It will be informative I promise.. Please skip it, if you are a troll.
- Gom seedings were going to be done by tournament if the players who said they were coming would show up. Some of the worlds 'elite' didnt show up, so they gave our seeds based on accomplishments (like the first day Glade was here he won IEM asia and is now going to IEM in europe) he won this infront of all the players here, plus john plus giasdo..
- Moonglade is top 100 on KOR ladder as of midnight last night. His rank is around 85 now. This is due to him playing with 2 ping instead of 200 ping on the korean server, and being able to play properly. He literally improved 20% just because of ping. In SEA you have 200 ping on every server.
- GSL is an awesome event, no matter how you put it. The worlds best players should WANT to be here. I see no point being in an SC2 team, and not wanting to play in GSL. You might as well just play solo on ladder and ignore the community
- I love nestea!
- The majority of the players who played as foreigners were not top 20 foreigners its true. Hell I'm not even top 20000000, and I still took a game off someone. So this should encourage those who are far better than me (pretty much everyone) to come and try out. Take it like this, GSL is a great tournament and getting into code A would be wonderful, but the life/gaming experience is far more valuable.
- Being too lazy and not having the money are two different things, I am sorry if I indicated they were the same. Some of the larger teams need to pull their finger out in my opinion.
- GSL wouldn't be in Korea only, if the foreigners came and showed their skill in Korea. I questioned a few people about why its only in Korea and it was merely "if we had 192 foreigners trying out, it would be a miserable event". Which is true to an extent, the level of play is hardly anywhere near as serious or dedicated as it is here. And the consistency is lacking.
- Starcraft 2 is a new game, so the full extent of strategies hasn't come out yet. One strat wonders will come and go *cough* bitbybit.
- The new GSL maps will change EVERYTHING. Look out for that, I have been watching koreans play on these maps and the games are so epic. True skill is shown on them.. But still they don't really help zvp because protoss gets to late game quicker and the protoss ball of death is unstoppable. It is indicated by zvp results on these maps.
I hope this block of text has helped inform.
ciao
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i have no problems with the automatic qualifiers for the people whom travel to Korea. They are dropping 3k to make the trip...they need some type of guarantee...
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I would only take one credit card to go try out and see what you're capable of. If top players want it bad enough, they'll go.
Excellent points by FXO 2 posts up. Props to Moonglade.
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The way they seeded the foreigners was fine this season, my only complaint would be if some of these 4 players lose first round and then get seeded again next season as well. There should be a rule in place to prevent that, like "the same player can only be given an automatic seeding by GOM once every 6 months".
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wasnt ret already in code A?
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On January 31 2011 11:32 dc302 wrote:
wasnt ret already in code A?
no he lost it but got reinvited back.
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On January 31 2011 10:04 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 09:49 0neder wrote:
Actually, Tasteless is pretty awesome solo if you watch some of his early BW stuff for GOM like the invitational.
I think if top level players want a seed, they should go to Korea and commit.
Also, moonglade should change his ID to a non-warcraft name. Yea but i doubt he'll cast like he did back in the day when he was solo. But if we're gonna bring up GOM, then Tasteless and SDM would be the best combo. Too bad hes retired though
too bad he hates Starcraft 2 and would love to see it crash and burn...
on a side note, Artosis was in GSL 1, and they had TorcH cast in his place for his games, also during Blizzcon they had 4 guest casters including IdrA.
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is that caRn the same caRn from counter strike 1.6?
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On January 31 2011 11:56 Kazzabiss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 10:04 Gao Xi wrote:On January 31 2011 09:49 0neder wrote:
Actually, Tasteless is pretty awesome solo if you watch some of his early BW stuff for GOM like the invitational.
I think if top level players want a seed, they should go to Korea and commit.
Also, moonglade should change his ID to a non-warcraft name. Yea but i doubt he'll cast like he did back in the day when he was solo. But if we're gonna bring up GOM, then Tasteless and SDM would be the best combo. Too bad hes retired though too bad he hates Starcraft 2 and would love to see it crash and burn... on a side note, Artosis was in GSL 1, and they had TorcH cast in his place for his games, also during Blizzcon they had 4 guest casters including IdrA.
really? Thats too bad, I wasn't fond of SC2 either at the beginning, i still miss BW, but SC2 isn't that bad.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 31 2011 10:31 FXOpen wrote:
Am going to do a little bit of a defensive post in point form here. It will be informative I promise.. Please skip it, if you are a troll.
- Gom seedings were going to be done by tournament if the players who said they were coming would show up. Some of the worlds 'elite' didnt show up, so they gave our seeds based on accomplishments (like the first day Glade was here he won IEM asia and is now going to IEM in europe) he won this infront of all the players here, plus john plus giasdo..
- Moonglade is top 100 on KOR ladder as of midnight last night. His rank is around 85 now. This is due to him playing with 2 ping instead of 200 ping on the korean server, and being able to play properly. He literally improved 20% just because of ping. In SEA you have 200 ping on every server.
- GSL is an awesome event, no matter how you put it. The worlds best players should WANT to be here. I see no point being in an SC2 team, and not wanting to play in GSL. You might as well just play solo on ladder and ignore the community
- I love nestea!
- The majority of the players who played as foreigners were not top 20 foreigners its true. Hell I'm not even top 20000000, and I still took a game off someone. So this should encourage those who are far better than me (pretty much everyone) to come and try out. Take it like this, GSL is a great tournament and getting into code A would be wonderful, but the life/gaming experience is far more valuable.
- Being too lazy and not having the money are two different things, I am sorry if I indicated they were the same. Some of the larger teams need to pull their finger out in my opinion.
- GSL wouldn't be in Korea only, if the foreigners came and showed their skill in Korea. I questioned a few people about why its only in Korea and it was merely "if we had 192 foreigners trying out, it would be a miserable event". Which is true to an extent, the level of play is hardly anywhere near as serious or dedicated as it is here. And the consistency is lacking.
- Starcraft 2 is a new game, so the full extent of strategies hasn't come out yet. One strat wonders will come and go *cough* bitbybit.
- The new GSL maps will change EVERYTHING. Look out for that, I have been watching koreans play on these maps and the games are so epic. True skill is shown on them.. But still they don't really help zvp because protoss gets to late game quicker and the protoss ball of death is unstoppable. It is indicated by zvp results on these maps.
I hope this block of text has helped inform.
ciao
Well said, mate. Particularly the part about teams pulling their finger out. You cannot possibly complain about your favourite player not being seeded if they didn't try to qualify in the open qualifiers in any of the 4/5 opportunities to do so thus far. It is a clear indication that they don't really want to be part of the GSL at this point in time, as there is no possible way that FXO/VT has more money than some of the other teams who didn't send players over for this qualification period.
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Too bad BitByBit didn't qualify 
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On January 31 2011 11:04 Duravi wrote:
The way they seeded the foreigners was fine this season, my only complaint would be if some of these 4 players lose first round and then get seeded again next season as well. There should be a rule in place to prevent that, like "the same player can only be given an automatic seeding by GOM once every 6 months".
Yeah, I think this is a pretty good idea.
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Holy man, im lookin forward to code a :D
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On January 31 2011 03:17 hmsrenown wrote:
And if they REALLY want more foreign viewers, they would throw invitation to BIG NAMES in NA/EU, they would, for example, throw a tourney with prize money for foreigners to compete for reserved slots, they would also, for example, extend invitation to fan favourites outside of Korea regardless of their current play.
Everyone was invited, all they had to do was apply. These 4 players were the 4 best that applied for this GSL season.
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Okay so are the 4 seeded players at all related to the foreigner house invitations? A post earlier said that all the liquid guys are staying at the OGS-TL house and MoonGlade would be staying at the foreigner house. So 7 beds are still open at the foreigner house? When do those spots get filled? I personally thought that they would look at all the applications (like Sjow's) for the foreigner house and start announcing the spots around the time of Code A qualifications, but I'm assuming it's a little too early or something?
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