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i don't play all that much, but i like the statistics that sc2 churns out.
from my observations. it seems like the displayed points+bonus pool is a reasonably good correlation to getting masters league. those fellas in my division who got promoted last week were generally 2650+ pointers or more after accounting for bonus. i have a D-rank acct in NA and only 2400+(17W, 9L) if i add bonus, since I haven't played for mths.
Going by this, I would need about 10-15 straight wins to hit master. I'm not going to try because isn't very likely I can do that as of now. But give it a few months, I'm sure the number of master divisions will increase, the same way the diamond divisions increased bit by bit.
3-4 mths back, the percentage of 1v1 diamond players according to sc2ranks used to be about 5 percent. its now 7. same for the 3v3 and 4v4s---i remember them having 3-4 percent diamonds. now both are hitting 10 percent.
my main acct is in SEA, so i do count the divisions. when master league first came out, there were 2 on the first day. then another 1 the day after. now there are 4. i'm sure, no doubt, there will be a fifth in time to come.
the vast majority of people who play get promoted in league way more often than getting demoted(its hard to find someone who has been demoted more often than promoted around) and so, i'm sure, that to make people continue playing the game, blizzard will continue promoting people.
in conclusion: fret not if you're in diamond and haven't made masters league. there will be more places and divisions along the way!
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How many of you are diamond players and play against master league guys consistently? 3 of the last 4 games I played were against master leaguers (I went 2-1 in those games, and lost to the diamond guy). Curiously enough, one of the master leaguers was "even" against me and the diamond guy was "slightly favored". Hopefully playing master league guys on a regular basis is a sign of promotion...
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any news on when grandmasters league will be active ?
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On January 16 2011 18:29 adi1133 wrote:
any news on when grandmasters league will be active ?
Not as far as I know. I bet blizzard will post this on their website when that happens, though.
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On January 16 2011 17:41 Neo.NEt wrote:
How many of you are diamond players and play against master league guys consistently? 3 of the last 4 games I played were against master leaguers (I went 2-1 in those games, and lost to the diamond guy). Curiously enough, one of the master leaguers was "even" against me and the diamond guy was "slightly favored". Hopefully playing master league guys on a regular basis is a sign of promotion...
yes, it is, it was same with me, after few more games, like 3-4 (i won them all) i got promoted. So just keep playing and winning 
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I don't understand one thing about the masters league, since I have been promoted, I keep getting 20 points for the win and like 3-5 for loss. I've checked accounts of my friends and even some top players, like haypro. It looks like everyone in the league is favoured over another guy in master league. What I mean is: When I faced my friend nukestrike before 1.2 he was slightly favoured over me, now if we play each other, then bnet shows to me that I was favoured over him AND bnet shows for him that he was favoured over me. It clearly doesn't make sense, anyone to explain this? Do you experience the similiar thing?
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Is masters league exclusive to 1v1?
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I wouldnt think it would be.... you would assume you could have masters 2v2 and 3v3 just like you could have diamond.. no reason not to be able to really.
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On January 16 2011 17:23 sunsetkid wrote:
i don't play all that much, but i like the statistics that sc2 churns out.
from my observations. it seems like the displayed points+bonus pool is a reasonably good correlation to getting masters league. those fellas in my division who got promoted last week were generally 2650+ pointers or more after accounting for bonus. i have a D-rank acct in NA and only 2400+(17W, 9L) if i add bonus, since I haven't played for mths.
Going by this, I would need about 10-15 straight wins to hit master. I'm not going to try because isn't very likely I can do that as of now. But give it a few months, I'm sure the number of master divisions will increase, the same way the diamond divisions increased bit by bit.
3-4 mths back, the percentage of 1v1 diamond players according to sc2ranks used to be about 5 percent. its now 7. same for the 3v3 and 4v4s---i remember them having 3-4 percent diamonds. now both are hitting 10 percent.
my main acct is in SEA, so i do count the divisions. when master league first came out, there were 2 on the first day. then another 1 the day after. now there are 4. i'm sure, no doubt, there will be a fifth in time to come.
the vast majority of people who play get promoted in league way more often than getting demoted(its hard to find someone who has been demoted more often than promoted around) and so, i'm sure, that to make people continue playing the game, blizzard will continue promoting people.
in conclusion: fret not if you're in diamond and haven't made masters league. there will be more places and divisions along the way! What if the 2% is a hard cap that cannot flex with the number of people qualified and requires someone to fall off in order for someone new to fill the void?
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On January 16 2011 22:05 Meldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 17:23 sunsetkid wrote:
i don't play all that much, but i like the statistics that sc2 churns out.
from my observations. it seems like the displayed points+bonus pool is a reasonably good correlation to getting masters league. those fellas in my division who got promoted last week were generally 2650+ pointers or more after accounting for bonus. i have a D-rank acct in NA and only 2400+(17W, 9L) if i add bonus, since I haven't played for mths.
Going by this, I would need about 10-15 straight wins to hit master. I'm not going to try because isn't very likely I can do that as of now. But give it a few months, I'm sure the number of master divisions will increase, the same way the diamond divisions increased bit by bit.
3-4 mths back, the percentage of 1v1 diamond players according to sc2ranks used to be about 5 percent. its now 7. same for the 3v3 and 4v4s---i remember them having 3-4 percent diamonds. now both are hitting 10 percent.
my main acct is in SEA, so i do count the divisions. when master league first came out, there were 2 on the first day. then another 1 the day after. now there are 4. i'm sure, no doubt, there will be a fifth in time to come.
the vast majority of people who play get promoted in league way more often than getting demoted(its hard to find someone who has been demoted more often than promoted around) and so, i'm sure, that to make people continue playing the game, blizzard will continue promoting people.
in conclusion: fret not if you're in diamond and haven't made masters league. there will be more places and divisions along the way! What if the 2% is a hard cap that cannot flex with the number of people qualified and requires someone to fall off in order for someone new to fill the void?
This is somewhat what I was wondering as well. There are 3822 people in Masters so far in NA according to sc2ranks.com. Let's see if that number increases over time.
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On January 16 2011 21:57 Matiz_pl wrote:
I don't understand one thing about the masters league, since I have been promoted, I keep getting 20 points for the win and like 3-5 for loss. I've checked accounts of my friends and even some top players, like haypro. It looks like everyone in the league is favoured over another guy in master league. What I mean is: When I faced my friend nukestrike before 1.2 he was slightly favoured over me, now if we play each other, then bnet shows to me that I was favoured over him AND bnet shows for him that he was favoured over me. It clearly doesn't make sense, anyone to explain this? Do you experience the similiar thing?
Because of the pont reset, many players' points are way below their MMR right now. Since being favoured is calculated by comparing your amount of points with your opponents' MMR, two players with much higher MMR than points will both be favoured versus each other.
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On January 16 2011 21:57 Matiz_pl wrote:
I don't understand one thing about the masters league, since I have been promoted, I keep getting 20 points for the win and like 3-5 for loss. I've checked accounts of my friends and even some top players, like haypro. It looks like everyone in the league is favoured over another guy in master league. What I mean is: When I faced my friend nukestrike before 1.2 he was slightly favoured over me, now if we play each other, then bnet shows to me that I was favoured over him AND bnet shows for him that he was favoured over me. It clearly doesn't make sense, anyone to explain this? Do you experience the similiar thing?
This happens because the Master league reset the players' ratings back to around 2300 pts. Currently, a lot of Master league players' MMR is much higher than that. The amount of pts awarded/deducted for win/loss is based on the player's pts vs the opponent's MMR. Thus, because the player's pts is a lot lower than it should be, they will get 20 for the win and only lose 3-5 until their pts more closely converges to their MMR.
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Yeah Brett Master's league is exclusive to 1on1. There is no 2on2 3on3 4on4 master's division or players at this time.
Also, as a separate aside to the people posting something along the lines of "Why am I not in master's yet?", you're not good enough. It's not like the algorithm selected you to stay out. When/if you are good enough, you will get in. Most of the people posting that question barely play and want to do 2 matches and get in master's league and go brag about it so it is good that they don't get in anyway.
As a last bit to add, this league has been wonderful. Discussion about diamond this and diamond that is gone, and those who are in master's league and mention it are good enough that I am glad to hear their discussion. Win/win.
You done good Blizzard.
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yep i agree, sometimes in early stages of tourneys still play against diamond, and you clearly see and feel the difference between master league and diamond players
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On January 15 2011 01:18 WhiteDog wrote:
Going to master league would have been a fine goal, except you don't know shit about how far you are from it.
You do know shit about how far you are from it, its not hard at all to figure out.
Look at who youre playing against, if you're winning against everybody in diamond who youre playing against and going even, or more than even, with people in masters, you will get promoted.
Thats how it works for every other league, theres no reason for masters to be different.
In the beginning of masters, people who were higher than a certain mmr got promoted instantly, because they needed to fill up divisions, same as how diamond used to be.
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something is fucked. My bud got into master from 2k diamond after less than 5 games. He is NOT an sc2 master by any means.
Bonus pool fail?
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On January 17 2011 02:50 Azzur wrote:
This happens because the Master league reset the players' ratings back to around 2300 pts.
What happens is that your points are reset to your spent bonus points +73. This happens for all leagues and for both promotion and demotion, and it has been like this from the beginning. It's strange that nobody has discovered it until now.
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On January 17 2011 06:09 N0cturnal wrote:
something is fucked. My bud got into master from 2k diamond after less than 5 games. He is NOT an sc2 master by any means.
Bonus pool fail?
nothing is fucked. bonus pool has nothing to do with his promotion.
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On January 17 2011 06:09 N0cturnal wrote:
something is fucked. My bud got into master from 2k diamond after less than 5 games. He is NOT an sc2 master by any means.
Bonus pool fail?
Its not connected to bonus pool in any way. Please read OP.
(jealous) =]
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On January 17 2011 05:22 Megaman wrote:
Yeah Brett Master's league is exclusive to 1on1. There is no 2on2 3on3 4on4 master's division or players at this time.
Also, as a separate aside to the people posting something along the lines of "Why am I not in master's yet?", you're not good enough. It's not like the algorithm selected you to stay out. When/if you are good enough, you will get in. Most of the people posting that question barely play and want to do 2 matches and get in master's league and go brag about it so it is good that they don't get in anyway.
As a last bit to add, this league has been wonderful. Discussion about diamond this and diamond that is gone, and those who are in master's league and mention it are good enough that I am glad to hear their discussion. Win/win.
You done good Blizzard.
i personally could live with being not good enough to be promoted into masters league but there are so many examples where i simply cannot understand why some others were actually promoted or lets say i cant understand how their mmr could ever be better than mine
this also wont change until blizz makes your mmr visible or even better explain how mmr generates
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