EPTHas it been confirmed what the cutoff % of diamond is? I'm just curious.
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
Has it been confirmed what the cutoff % of diamond is? I'm just curious. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On January 14 2011 02:27 BlasiuS wrote: Right now the statistics on sc2ranks seems to suggest that master's league is top 5% of diamond, not top 10%. It's at the top .4% overall. Has it been confirmed what the cutoff % of diamond is? I'm just curious. The answer varies depending on your search criteria =) http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/1/all/7 (7 day activity filter) 2.2% (2,711) No activity filter: 0.4% (2,504) | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
It's also funny to see SeleCT below me in points (I know points don't mean much ... just saying  ). There are also 4-5 top 200 players in my division, so I'm curious what happens to my division once the Grand Masters league starts. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On January 14 2011 04:16 whoopadeedoo wrote: I'm finding the matchmaking for masters is a bit "off" right now. I'm not trying to boast, but I've played 10 matches since being promoted and have gone 9-1 (the one loss was due to stupid error on my part), and each of these matches haven't been competitive or close ... even the ones that my opponents were favored. Prior to the patch, my matches were a lot more competitive. I'm not sure what the system is doing. that might be because everyone who gets promoted to master league starts out at the same rating? | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
On January 14 2011 04:20 Sfydjklm wrote: that might be because everyone who gets promoted to master league starts out at the same rating? Is this the current theory? I was under the impression that the MMR didn't change, only the displayed points (which got equalized across the board). But I'm finding that I'm playing players who I feel are clearly not as good as my previous competition. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On January 14 2011 04:16 whoopadeedoo wrote: I'm finding the matchmaking for masters is a bit "off" right now. I'm not trying to boast, but I've played 10 matches since being promoted and have gone 9-1 (the one loss was due to stupid error on my part), and each of these matches haven't been competitive or close ... even the ones that my opponents were favored. Prior to the patch, my matches were a lot more competitive. I'm not sure what the system is doing. It's also funny to see SeleCT below me in points (I know points don't mean much ... just saying ). There are also 4-5 top 200 players in my division, so I'm curious what happens to my division once the Grand Masters league starts.What leagues were those players in? MMR supposedly remained the same. I mean, it could definitely be what we were hearing before, which is that a lot of players are either still getting adjusted to patch changes or playing more recklessly with cheese builds trying to get points quickly, or there could be some change to matchmaking. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
I wonder if the matchmaking is being manipulated by the system to facilitate the convergence of the displayed points to the MMR. | ||
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KillerDucky
United States498 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2178533/1/PiQLiQ/matches#filter=solo PiQLiQ is ~3300 points now and is starting to lose ~10 points per loss. Probably he close but still not quite to his MMR. When he gets there those 10 points per loss will be more like 15+ points per loss, but it will take longer to get there now that he's close. If you are a lower-level Master's player you should see this start to happen at somewhere lower than ~3000. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On January 14 2011 04:26 Excalibur_Z wrote: What leagues were those players in? MMR supposedly remained the same. I mean, it could definitely be what we were hearing before, which is that a lot of players are either still getting adjusted to patch changes or playing more recklessly with cheese builds trying to get points quickly, or there could be some change to matchmaking. a lot of players seemed to come back from a break for this patch tbh. I've played a lot of players who's name i recognized and considered good and who played very poorly. | ||
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
On January 14 2011 04:16 whoopadeedoo wrote: I'm finding the matchmaking for masters is a bit "off" right now. I'm not trying to boast, but I've played 10 matches since being promoted and have gone 9-1 (the one loss was due to stupid error on my part), and each of these matches haven't been competitive or close ... even the ones that my opponents were favored. Prior to the patch, my matches were a lot more competitive. I'm not sure what the system is doing. It's also funny to see SeleCT below me in points (I know points don't mean much ... just saying ). There are also 4-5 top 200 players in my division, so I'm curious what happens to my division once the Grand Masters league starts.I feel the same way. Opponents started out pretty lackluster in comparison to the players I've been playing before the promotion. It's starting to slowly even out but it's still kinda strange. | ||
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whoopadeedoo
United States427 Posts
I'm not a fan of what they did here. I prefer competitive 50/50 matches over lopsided win streaks. I'm sure my opponents aren't happy about it either  | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On January 14 2011 05:13 whoopadeedoo wrote: My gut feeling is the system is fudging matchup point awarding to converge the MMR with the displayed points so it settles closer to what we had prior to the new league. I think I'll get "easy" matchups - a good number of which the system considers my opponents favored - until I reach a displayed point total closer to where I was (at least relative to other players). I'm not a fan of what they did here. I prefer competitive 50/50 matches over lopsided win streaks. I'm sure my opponents are happy about it either In any event, things will straighten themselves out over time. Once that convergence happens we should be seeing more accurate skill rankings. | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
it seems like everyone is favored aginst each other. It says favored, you win and get 20 points, the opponent loses like 5, it's weird. The matchmaking system is really being fucked up now and you can't tell who's good and who's not, since the points dont give away any information right now. I lost like 12 games and won 5 games against dudes who all have been favored or slightly favored thus far. I'm gonna keep on despite doing really, really badly right now (bye bye 58% win percentage). The matchmaking is working randomly right now and I'm one of the lower masters leage players so I gotta fight better ones all the time (who are favored against me too ofc). I think those who can play the game well should be owning on the ladder right now. | ||
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Avenok
United States34 Posts
I don't think Blizzard said anything about this in any of their posts/comments. If someone can confirm this, it might be a good idea to add that Master's League is unobtainable in any bracket but 1v1 to the OP. Here is Blizzard's Master's League blog post: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2053471#blog | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On January 14 2011 06:12 Avenok wrote: I did some searching on sc2ranks for 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 Master's League and there are no divisions currently. Does anyone know if Master's League is 1v1 bracket exclusive? I don't think Blizzard said anything about this in any of their posts/comments. If someone can confirm this, it might be a good idea to add that Master's League is unobtainable in any bracket but 1v1 to the OP. So far is seems to only be for 1v1. No one has anything in 2v2 or above yet. I doubt they will either. | ||
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Boundless
Canada588 Posts
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OsC
Canada542 Posts
i was over 3.2k in diamond, now that im in masters i started off at 2205 in masters  User was warned for this post | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On January 14 2011 06:20 Boundless wrote: Master league is for 1v1 only. I don't see how they could possibly do it for team games and not be laughed at. I don't see why not. I think there could certainly be a top 2% of competitive 2v2 play, at the very least. I can understand why there wouldn't be a Top 200 for team brackets, but there should be a Master league. | ||
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