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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On January 13 2011 08:31 Nyxs wrote: The skill curve goes up so fast once you reach the top players it would always end up this way unless you use a different system. There will always be Grand Master League for the top 200 and having a Master League beneath that which currently has 2.5k players on NA doesn't sound too bad if you take in consideration how large the player pool is for NA. Ya, I guess you're right. To me, it just made more sense to have something less than 2.5k but obviously more than 200. Like, top 1000 for master league. That way, there was some semblance of a gradual ladder, instead it seems that you have top 200 for grandmaster, and then the next 2.3k which comprises a ton of different levels of skill, much more than bronze to silver to gold and platinum, even. That's all I was saying. It's a bit misleading. But, you're right, it's really an inescapable scenario. | ||
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Pharaun
Germany150 Posts
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Heckran
Australia11 Posts
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RukKus
United States197 Posts
I feel the Masters League is going to be a bit chaotic for the next few days, perhaps even weeks, as the system re-organizes MMR and places people at the level they should be. I also feel Blizzard implemented Master's League before the Ladder Reset in order to work out any kinks/discrepancies, such as any errors that might occur in point rewards. They did this now so that when the ladder resets and people are placed in leagues it would be more accurate and there would be no major errors. Wise move in my opinion, but as expected BNet is having a hard time placing people against equal match. Watching lots of pro streams where they are in the top of Master's League, BNet pairs them against "Favored" opponents which they steamroll and still manage to get 23 points from. Then again that might be because they are boosting their points to appropriately reflect their MMR. Don't Panic. | ||
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Shadowed
United States679 Posts
On January 14 2011 07:27 Pharaun wrote: when the ladder is reset, there should be a lot less ppl in the master league... MMR is not being reset, people who were in Masters league will (likely) be placed back into it quite quickly. | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
+11 pts for a win - even match. Maybe masters is in sight? But can you be demoted from masters without playing? Some ROOT folks are still diamond... http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/us/diamond/1/all/pointratio Hazard a guess that Huk would be masters if he so much as played a game. So will new Master divisions be created to accomodate these players? edit: looks like it. a new guy is at the bottom with a sub 50% win ratio: 28-29. | ||
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MOOG
United States188 Posts
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
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ktimekiller
United States690 Posts
On January 14 2011 14:41 shadymmj wrote: Would it be a good idea to merge this topic with the division analysis so that we can see who can potentially get into masters? Anyway, more funny news...600 pt diamond (me) goes up against rank 1 diamond toss with 2.6k pts, this guy obviously no noob with about 500 games played. +11 pts for a win - even match. Maybe masters is in sight? But can you be demoted from masters without playing? Some ROOT folks are still diamond... http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/us/diamond/1/all/pointratio Hazard a guess that Huk would be masters if he so much as played a game. So will new Master divisions be created to accomodate these players? edit: looks like it. a new guy is at the bottom with a sub 50% win ratio: 28-29. Don't fool yourself, those players haven't won a 1v1 since patch came out, and thus unpromoteable | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
Ah, anyway, I've resigned myself to staying in diamond after hitting 56 games and going 7-5 against the 2.5k range. Many people are spamming games now to get into masters, so the required MMR is going to increase. I think it's more or less shooting yourself in the foot if you're not on the verge of being promoted when you go 50-50 and spam games. Worse when those eligible, but still diamond players just decide to win one game. Can you beat them out before they occupy your slot and raise the MMR ceiling? | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:32 GenesisX wrote: Quick question: I won't be able to play SC2 until maybe next weekend, but I am already pretty high on the ladder. I did the math, and I was within the cutoff for masters league. If too many people get in, will I miss my chance? (Link to my SC2Ranks Profile if you need) how do u figure out where the cutoff for masters is? | ||
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Pharaun
Germany150 Posts
On January 14 2011 08:33 Shadowed wrote: MMR is not being reset, people who were in Masters league will (likely) be placed back into it quite quickly. u mad? before: 10 000 Diamonds ->10% ->1000 masters after: 5000 diamonds (cause many inactive) -> 500 masters | ||
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cchuntem
51 Posts
On January 14 2011 15:05 clayn wrote: as far is i know strelok is still in diamond, lulz All his recent matches are Custom. He has >3400 points and 65% wrl - of course he belongs to Masters. | ||
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cchuntem
51 Posts
On January 14 2011 18:51 Pharaun wrote: u mad? before: 10 000 Diamonds ->10% ->1000 masters after: 5000 diamonds (cause many inactive) -> 500 masters I think most of inactive players most likely will play just enough games to get back to the Diamond. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On January 14 2011 07:08 Excalibur_Z wrote: I don't see why not. I think there could certainly be a top 2% of competitive 2v2 play, at the very least. I can understand why there wouldn't be a Top 200 for team brackets, but there should be a Master league. Think so too - not that would it make me super-proud being 2v2 master, but I mean, technically master is "just" another league, not like grandmaster where only "the" top200 would get into. Just because the name is "master" doesn't mean there shouldn't be a league for the top 2% of 2v2 players. I don't understand why Blizz wouldn't do this, I mean, it can't be "that" much work to adapt the algorythm? | ||
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cchuntem
51 Posts
On January 14 2011 19:10 sleepingdog wrote: Think so too - not that would it make me super-proud being 2v2 master, but I mean, technically master is "just" another league, not like grandmaster where only "the" top200 would get into. Just because the name is "master" doesn't mean there shouldn't be a league for the top 2% of 2v2 players. I don't understand why Blizz wouldn't do this, I mean, it can't be "that" much work to adapt the algorythm? Probably, technically there are no any problems to make it, but well, it doesn't make much sense, I think: 1. There is much more of a random element in team games. 2. Team games are not balanced as good as 1v1 (and never will probably). 3. Serious competition is going only in 1v1 games. But meh, I wouldn't hate it either if Blizz have implemented Masters for team games. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On January 14 2011 19:04 cchuntem wrote: I think most of inactive players most likely will play just enough games to get back to the Diamond. There are actually so many inactive players who played 1 game just to get their Masters icon and went back to inactivity. So yea, i agree. Reset most likely will have minimal effect. | ||
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Zog
57 Posts
On January 14 2011 18:51 Pharaun wrote: u mad? before: 10 000 Diamonds ->10% ->1000 masters after: 5000 diamonds (cause many inactive) -> 500 masters If you looked at Excalibur's posts, you would have seen that promotion is only calculated relatively to active players. So a reset won't change anything in the long run. I'm amazed at the number of people who make so many mistakes on ladder mechanics. | ||
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