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[GSL] Who is worthy of competing in Code A - Page 26

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Mike941
Profile Joined December 2008
United States98 Posts
January 06 2011 16:20 GMT
#501
Tyler, huk or mana.
cocaineduck
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden17 Posts
January 06 2011 16:22 GMT
#502
Sjow, Morrow, Naniwa and Madfrog.

Sweden represent!
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
January 06 2011 16:27 GMT
#503
Huk, Kiwikaki, PainUser, Sen (not sure if he's already code A, if not, incontrol)
SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
January 06 2011 16:31 GMT
#504
My votes are for HuK, Kiwikaki, InControl becuase all 3 of them have tried and came extremely close to qualifying. And can't forget Naama, since he won Dreamhack.
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
wizard944
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
194 Posts
January 06 2011 16:36 GMT
#505
haha when I first saw this, I thought you meant the world health organization because 'who' was in all caps. Needless to say, I was really confused for a second.
Kassar DeTemplari
Oos
Profile Joined October 2010
Great Britain16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 16:37:40
January 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#506
HuK, White-Ra/DuckloadRa, Sjow, Select and qxc.
samaNo4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Spain245 Posts
January 06 2011 16:46 GMT
#507
Seriously, stop discussing about player's will to go to Korea. Junkka has asked who is WORTH going. Just say the players you think are good enough and GOM will ask eventually and they'll manage it privately.

IMO Sjow is not a good choice. His late macro and BO's are awesome, but his lack of early scouting makes him extremely vulnerable to cheese. And Korean players cheese a lot. And it's not the same a random Top 100 cheese than an MC one. MC will cheese you, and in case you defend it, he will be MILES ahead so it will be game. (Not saying MC is a cheeser, just an example).

Really believe qxc deserves going. An awesome and spectacular Terran with a very aggressive play. Dimaga, White-Ra, Huk, Naama and Mana would be good ones too.

P.S. Sorry for the bad grammar+syntax, I have no corrector here.
And then do you know what happens all of a sudden? Trumpets!!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 06 2011 16:47 GMT
#508
On January 07 2011 00:12 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 23:21 Talin wrote:
On January 06 2011 23:16 confusedcrib wrote:
And clearly because iNcontroL didn't win 4 (or however many) MLGs he is garbage... and LZgamer is also a good choice, it's not like either one is better than the other based on the very few MLGs this far


So what do you base it on, other than liking them and/or them being EG? Of course it should be based on major live events.

Incontrol ended 13, 17 and 15th in all 3 MLGs. Lzgamer was even worse.

I wish people would take this more seriously. =/

Incontrol was a game away from qualifying for GSL3...


So was just about every foreigner who tried to make it (and very few people did). Mostly everyone made it to the qualifier finals and lost there.

You don't get an invitation to Korea if you can't even make top 15 of a mostly North American tournament in 3 attempts. There were plenty of live events for him to prove he's that level, and he's nowhere near for the time being.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
January 06 2011 16:47 GMT
#509
As all players named are on a pretty similar level, Foreigners programmers should be chosen for entertainment value. GSL is getting boring because we always see the same openings and transitions (3gate robo into colossus into storms; 2rax into one millions raxes, 14 hatch into muta/lings). You should invite players that's will try something new from time to time to entertain the viewers (just like Boxer did with his mules, he certainly understands how to please the audience). I would propose: Socke, Brat_OK, TLO (as random) and HuK
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
January 06 2011 16:48 GMT
#510
HuK, qxc, Fenix, white-ra, socke, demuslim are people I would like to see have a chance.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 16:51:29
January 06 2011 16:50 GMT
#511
You should try to get someone from each region to increase worldwide viewership. Also you should focus on people with the most fans or most prize money won.

North America - Huk - Won the first MLG, good placement in others, has giant balls (mothership rush in top 4), already in korea

South America - Fenix - he already travels worldwide for events, has good placements including wins.

Europe - White Ra - Old School with tons of exp, use to traveling and playing in front of crowds - good placements such as blizzcon - OR - Namma because he just won dreamhack, but i think Ra would be a better choice - OR - TLO - but I dont think hes going back to korea or he would already be in the GSL I think

Asia - sen? luffy? loner? - i dont know much about asia

B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 06 2011 16:51 GMT
#512
firstly: i dont know enough about the players from canada, north and south america so i wont mention them although there are some solid players there as well.

white ra is old, married, and already has been to korea. i srsly doubt he will go back to give it another shot. apparently there are a lot of other players who wouldnt even consider it due to circomstances, so lets just forget about them

As for the liquid guys, as much as i hope they will go far in GSL, i think they already have a very good opportunity to prove themselves out there (having a house in korea, training with oGs etc.) So i think its more fair to consider players who may not have had a chance yet.

I think that mouzMana and mouzNaama both are very skilled, + they are pretty young 19/20 and i honestly think they are far from reaching their potential. They could become great if they have proper training partners and some tournament training (e.g learning to control their nerves, if it is an issue)

Bratok (although he isnt THAT young) seems to perform very well, but being unable to join several tournaments due to visa issues. He seems to be a very good player though... and finally i guess demuslim is a good choice...

so in short: mouzMana, mouzNaama, BratOk and deMuslim
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
January 06 2011 16:54 GMT
#513
incontrol, tyler, huk, haypro.
@nowSimon
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
January 06 2011 16:56 GMT
#514
HuK of course, he definitly should be invited to code A, it is so sad for him that he didn't qualify.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
January 06 2011 16:59 GMT
#515
Obviously HuK !
He deserves his chance sooooooooooo much !
xberges
Profile Joined August 2010
Dominican Republic56 Posts
January 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#516
HuK, INcontrol and qxc
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
January 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#517
HuK obviously deserves an invite for all his success in tournaments, but he's also in a position where he can qualify for A-code just as easily as a native Korean. Since he has been living in Korea now for a while, it's not as though he needs the invite to justify the decision to move to Korea.
MuseX
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
January 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#518
On January 07 2011 01:47 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 00:12 Juliette wrote:
On January 06 2011 23:21 Talin wrote:
On January 06 2011 23:16 confusedcrib wrote:
And clearly because iNcontroL didn't win 4 (or however many) MLGs he is garbage... and LZgamer is also a good choice, it's not like either one is better than the other based on the very few MLGs this far


So what do you base it on, other than liking them and/or them being EG? Of course it should be based on major live events.

Incontrol ended 13, 17 and 15th in all 3 MLGs. Lzgamer was even worse.

I wish people would take this more seriously. =/

Incontrol was a game away from qualifying for GSL3...


So was just about every foreigner who tried to make it (and very few people did). Mostly everyone made it to the qualifier finals and lost there.

You don't get an invitation to Korea if you can't even make top 15 of a mostly North American tournament in 3 attempts. There were plenty of live events for him to prove he's that level, and he's nowhere near for the time being.


he was top 15 in every mlg lol
Jaedong | Stork | Fantasy Idra | Nony | Painuser | Nada
cocaineduck
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden17 Posts
January 06 2011 17:02 GMT
#519
On January 07 2011 01:46 samaNo4 wrote:
...
IMO Sjow is not a good choice. His late macro and BO's are awesome, but his lack of early scouting makes him extremely vulnerable to cheese. And Korean players cheese a lot. And it's not the same a random Top 100 cheese than an MC one. MC will cheese you, and in case you defend it, he will be MILES ahead so it will be game. (Not saying MC is a cheeser, just an example).
...


So.. Because he doesnt send out an SCV in the first 2 minutes of the game he is unfit for Korea?
Its not like his entire game hinges upon him NOT sending out that scout. If it didnt work he wouldnt do it. And say that it doesnt work in Korea, i would think that he would start to send that SCV out to be able to stay there and compete.

Really not a great argument against him being eligable.

Besides, if anything were to make him a bad candidate its his macro imo so i really dont know what your talking about.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 17:26:46
January 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#520
I haven't read every suggestion in this thread obviously, but from what I've seen, most people are arguing for the players they like best/think are the best right now. While this is understandable, I feel like this would be a very bad way for GOM to pick the Code A foreigners.

There's no objective ranking system in place for SC2, so there's always going to be some measure of subjectivity in your picks, but I believe you should try to aim for as much objectivity as you can. Players can't be invited just because they're a fan favourite or the responsibles at GOM think they have potential, that would open the door to enormous bias and lessen the GSL's credibility.

In my opinion, only 2 things should go into consideration for who to invite:

1. The availability and motivation of the player to go to Korea. Someone like Tyler would rank low in this category because he's married and he's said he doesn't want to give everything up to go to Korea again. Huk and Haypro would rank very high because they're already in Korea and have proven that they have the motivation to try to make it in Korea.

2. The tournament success. This is really the only semi-objective indicator of skill we have. Semi-objective because there's always the subjective element of how to rate the tournaments and how to rate consistency vs. one big result. Still, I think if GomTV put enough thought into it (ie. make a ranking list of major tournaments (Dreamhack, MLG, TSL, etc.) and lesser tournaments that still factor into the ranking somewhat, they could get a decent indicator of each player's success in the foreign scene.

Following from those 2 categories, I think Huk is the most obvious pick by far, as he ranks high in both (already in Korea, MLG winner, 3rd in another and good results in several other tournaments). Behind Huk it's much closer. There's Haypro who's already in Korea as well and at least has a GSL qualification to his name, Naama, who won Dreamhack but doesn't have that many other results to his name (again, one big result vs. consistency) and several other players (Kiwikaki, Select, Fenix for instance) who have consistently placed high in major tournaments.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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