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On January 03 2011 04:20 billyX333 wrote:
the guy tasteless called out is clearly socially awkward, very sensitive, and a little self loathing
i feel bad for him to be called out by somebody hes apparently a fan of
Yeah... I hope that he can collect himself enough to go clear things up with tasteless and john.
His self esteem really needs that weight taken off now.
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On January 03 2011 04:07 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand everyone makes mistakes but im kind of surprised how many people are saying tasteless crossed the line. Where else in this world do people walk up to professionals and say they could do a better job? Even if the guy meant no harm it was really disrespectful to John and a really dumb way to go about trying to get a job. I mean have you ever heard of email or an application or something. No other place of business would allow you to do something so arrogant or brash. I would never hire someone who even thought that was a good idea. Tasteless and John we overly nice in my opinion just to meet with the guy and then he tells them he could do a better job then John. The real kicker is that he didn't even know what Johns job was. Nice of him to apologize but it was a really dumb thing to do and I don't see how anyone can say Tasteless was out of line. Obviously people think walking up to people and asking for jobs while disrespecting them is completely fine so Tasteless made sure to address the issue so no one else would be that ignorant.
Lets not forget that Tasteless did the exact same thing as this person to get his first casting job. He went up to the producers and told them he could do a better job than the current caster (which, in fairness wasn't doing a good job but that's besides the point). How is that any different? At least he tried.
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Hey op, you seem like an awesome guy. It sounds like their was a big misunderstanding, don't feel so bad, live and learn 
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I don't understand why Tasteless would even say this on air.
Why would you randomly start talking about someone who came in with a comment?
It would be the same thing if someone told Tasteless he was a moron then he starts talking about them on air.
On January 03 2011 04:29 DuFFmAn69 wrote:Hey op, you seem like an awesome guy. It sounds like their was a big misunderstanding, don't feel so bad, live and learn
Btw, it's not the op who wrote that.
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On January 03 2011 04:28 timwac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:07 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand everyone makes mistakes but im kind of surprised how many people are saying tasteless crossed the line. Where else in this world do people walk up to professionals and say they could do a better job? Even if the guy meant no harm it was really disrespectful to John and a really dumb way to go about trying to get a job. I mean have you ever heard of email or an application or something. No other place of business would allow you to do something so arrogant or brash. I would never hire someone who even thought that was a good idea. Tasteless and John we overly nice in my opinion just to meet with the guy and then he tells them he could do a better job then John. The real kicker is that he didn't even know what Johns job was. Nice of him to apologize but it was a really dumb thing to do and I don't see how anyone can say Tasteless was out of line. Obviously people think walking up to people and asking for jobs while disrespecting them is completely fine so Tasteless made sure to address the issue so no one else would be that ignorant. Lets not forget that Tasteless did the exact same thing as this person to get his first casting job. He went up to the producers and told them he could do a better job than the current caster (which, in fairness wasn't doing a good job but that's besides the point). How is that any different? At least he tried.
to be fair he offered to assit the caster, for free, only for that tournement,
he did not go up and ask for the casters job, for pay, and for mutiple tournements/broadcasts
(thats how i remember the story being told anyway)/
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Tasteless probably mentioned it on air so that others wouldn't try the same thing, this probably isnt the first time that someone tried this anyways.
I dont blame him at all for bringing it up.
The guy made an ass out of himself to someone who talks for a living
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I feel like this was a bit unprofessional or even immature of Tasteless to state. While this is something definitely to discuss while not on the air, I don't feel like this anecdote was anything more than a way for Tasteless to get something off his chest.
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On January 03 2011 04:34 Corvette wrote:
Tasteless probably mentioned it on air so that others wouldn't try the same thing, this probably isnt the first time that someone tried this anyways.
I dont blame him at all for bringing it up.
The guy made an ass out of himself to someone who talks for a living
So if you went up to a news caster and told them they don't do a good job and you could do it better, you would okay if they told your entire city on air, that you went in and told the news caster they did a bad job? Just so no one else would try it?
I don't think so.
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On January 03 2011 04:32 cristo1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:28 timwac wrote:On January 03 2011 04:07 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand everyone makes mistakes but im kind of surprised how many people are saying tasteless crossed the line. Where else in this world do people walk up to professionals and say they could do a better job? Even if the guy meant no harm it was really disrespectful to John and a really dumb way to go about trying to get a job. I mean have you ever heard of email or an application or something. No other place of business would allow you to do something so arrogant or brash. I would never hire someone who even thought that was a good idea. Tasteless and John we overly nice in my opinion just to meet with the guy and then he tells them he could do a better job then John. The real kicker is that he didn't even know what Johns job was. Nice of him to apologize but it was a really dumb thing to do and I don't see how anyone can say Tasteless was out of line. Obviously people think walking up to people and asking for jobs while disrespecting them is completely fine so Tasteless made sure to address the issue so no one else would be that ignorant. Lets not forget that Tasteless did the exact same thing as this person to get his first casting job. He went up to the producers and told them he could do a better job than the current caster (which, in fairness wasn't doing a good job but that's besides the point). How is that any different? At least he tried. to be fair he offered to assit the caster, for free, only for that tournement, he did not go up and ask for the casters job, for pay, and for mutiple tournements/broadcasts (thats how i remember the story being told anyway)/
Well regardless of what happened, Tasteless did the wrong thing. Its clear he doesn't know how much of an effect he has on those around him, and how much influence he has within the community. If he really wanted to tell Artosis about it, it should have been done off air.
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On January 03 2011 04:38 SilverPotato wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:32 cristo1122 wrote:On January 03 2011 04:28 timwac wrote:On January 03 2011 04:07 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand everyone makes mistakes but im kind of surprised how many people are saying tasteless crossed the line. Where else in this world do people walk up to professionals and say they could do a better job? Even if the guy meant no harm it was really disrespectful to John and a really dumb way to go about trying to get a job. I mean have you ever heard of email or an application or something. No other place of business would allow you to do something so arrogant or brash. I would never hire someone who even thought that was a good idea. Tasteless and John we overly nice in my opinion just to meet with the guy and then he tells them he could do a better job then John. The real kicker is that he didn't even know what Johns job was. Nice of him to apologize but it was a really dumb thing to do and I don't see how anyone can say Tasteless was out of line. Obviously people think walking up to people and asking for jobs while disrespecting them is completely fine so Tasteless made sure to address the issue so no one else would be that ignorant. Lets not forget that Tasteless did the exact same thing as this person to get his first casting job. He went up to the producers and told them he could do a better job than the current caster (which, in fairness wasn't doing a good job but that's besides the point). How is that any different? At least he tried. to be fair he offered to assit the caster, for free, only for that tournement, he did not go up and ask for the casters job, for pay, and for mutiple tournements/broadcasts (thats how i remember the story being told anyway)/ Well regardless of what happened, Tasteless did the wrong thing. Its clear he doesn't know how much of an effect he has on those around him, and how much influence he has within the community. If he really wanted to tell Artosis about it, it should have been done off air.
i suspect that he had already told artosis tbh sort of conjecture either way though
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Cant see that testeless did anything wrong, he did not in any way mention the guy by name or anything... He is allowed to talk about things outside the show.
And he was obviously really upset about the wole thing, and had a random guy walked up to me, told me a do a shit job and asked for my job i would have done far worse than a mild rant on air.
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On January 03 2011 04:38 Kolvacs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:34 Corvette wrote:
Tasteless probably mentioned it on air so that others wouldn't try the same thing, this probably isnt the first time that someone tried this anyways.
I dont blame him at all for bringing it up.
The guy made an ass out of himself to someone who talks for a living So if you went up to a news caster and told them they don't do a good job and you could do it better, you would okay if they told your entire city on air, that you went in and told the news caster they did a bad job? Just so no one else would try it? I don't think so.
Yeah. As long as they dont mention me by name. Stand-up comedians tell stories from real life all the time, same as writers fom sit-coms.
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i dont think they actually mentioned his name or his bnet ID or anything, why would the rest of his life be affected?
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On January 03 2011 04:45 DND_Enkil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:38 Kolvacs wrote:On January 03 2011 04:34 Corvette wrote:
Tasteless probably mentioned it on air so that others wouldn't try the same thing, this probably isnt the first time that someone tried this anyways.
I dont blame him at all for bringing it up.
The guy made an ass out of himself to someone who talks for a living So if you went up to a news caster and told them they don't do a good job and you could do it better, you would okay if they told your entire city on air, that you went in and told the news caster they did a bad job? Just so no one else would try it? I don't think so. Yeah. As long as they dont mention me by name. Stand-up comedians tell stories from real life all the time, same as writers fom sit-coms.
Most of those stories are fabricated or changed to make them funny, further more even if a comedian talked about something you did, there'd be know way to know if it was specifically you because hundreds of people talk to comedians and say stupid stuff.
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Dear Tasteless,
I'm your biggest fan.
-Stan
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I don't really mind calling someone out on this publicly. The world needs more of it. Hindsight it sucks that this guy actually seems a lot nicer than what his actions would make it seem like. Coming into someones studio and telling them they suck when they have no idea who you are is a very offensive thing to do. If you did that here on TL you would not last very long either.
Even though I don't mind Tasteless doing this from a social aspect I also don't see what it would add to your broadcast.
No big deal either way.
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On January 03 2011 04:45 Angelbelow wrote:
i dont think they actually mentioned his name or his bnet ID or anything, why would the rest of his life be affected?
At the end of the day u (that is the guy) would know and i have seen less push people who are in hard circumstances over the edge.
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Nobody would have cared or said that Tasteless crossed the line if that guy didn't publicly apologized. You're all making such a big deal out of this, its ridiculous,
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On January 03 2011 04:48 SilverPotato wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 04:45 DND_Enkil wrote:On January 03 2011 04:38 Kolvacs wrote:On January 03 2011 04:34 Corvette wrote:
Tasteless probably mentioned it on air so that others wouldn't try the same thing, this probably isnt the first time that someone tried this anyways.
I dont blame him at all for bringing it up.
The guy made an ass out of himself to someone who talks for a living So if you went up to a news caster and told them they don't do a good job and you could do it better, you would okay if they told your entire city on air, that you went in and told the news caster they did a bad job? Just so no one else would try it? I don't think so. Yeah. As long as they dont mention me by name. Stand-up comedians tell stories from real life all the time, same as writers fom sit-coms. Most of those stories are fabricated or changed to make them funny, further more even if a comedian talked about something you did, there'd be know way to know if it was specifically you because hundreds of people talk to comedians and say stupid stuff.
How do you know for sure that this was the same guy?
isnt it just as likely that Tateless has more than 1 fan, that is shy, and has delusions of grandeur?
and cmon, this guy is shy (based off his composure when he talked to tasteless) , and wants to do interviews with the stars. i would hate to see an interview of this guy stumbling over every word as he interviews boxer
and to answer your question, yes, if i have the audacity to straight up ask for someones job as a newscaster with absolutely no experience/credentials other than "i watch the news". then i
deserve to be called out. Plus, hey i made the news
EDIT: he didnt publicly apologize, he hid behind anonymity of the internet. This might not even be him who wrote this up
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On January 03 2011 04:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I don't really mind calling someone out on this publicly. The world needs more of it. Hindsight it sucks that this guy actually seems a lot nicer than what his actions would make it seem like. Coming into someones studio and telling them they suck when they have no idea who you are is a very offensive thing to do. If you did that here on TL you would not last very long either.
Even though I don't mind Tasteless doing this from a social aspect I also don't see what it would add to your broadcast.
No big deal either way.
So can we openly call out idiots in the strategy section then? Since you know, the world needs more of it.
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