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Dyllyn
Singapore670 Posts
On January 03 2011 23:43 Essentia wrote: my thoughts exactly, if he was so embarrassed why wouldnt he stay anonymous. lol it makes no sense to post a big public apology attracting more attention to yourself. He needed to get if off his chest, and you people need to give the guy a break. | ||
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TrANCE,
301 Posts
Tastless should make an apology this guys just trying to make a living he didn't mean anything malicious Tastless is where he is now because he dropped out of a tournament, went to the organisers and told them the guy that was hosting it was doing a rubbish job and he could do better. Nicks just a complete hypocrite in my eyes now | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
I kind of feel the guy made too big a deal out of it for himself, but fuck it, people deal with things in different ways, just because I would have laughed it off doesn't mean everyone could I guess. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
Maybe a mod can do that instead of him if hes not online right now so we can let this discussion die out. | ||
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DDKz
Australia188 Posts
On January 04 2011 00:07 TrANCE, wrote: Tastless is where he is now because he dropped out of a tournament, went to the organisers and told them the guy that was hosting it was doing a rubbish job and he could do better. This is exactly what came to mind when I first read the OP lol.. According to Day9 in Daily #100 Nick's casting career started when he went up to the organizers of a Starcraft event he was knocked out of and told them he could a better job than the guy casting so they gave him a mic and he was great. I guess it's easy to forget your roots.. sometimes you just need someone to give you a chance, and when they don't you need to go after it yourself which is what this guy did and in this particular case the result was being humiliated by an idol of his, I love Tasteless as much as the next guy but dick-move man.. dick-move. | ||
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
He thinks John is bad and that he can do better. Why not go for it and ask if they are looking for someone to replace him? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 04 2011 00:39 SkytoM wrote: I don't know what he did wrong? He thinks John is bad and that he can do better. Why not go for it and ask if they are looking for someone to replace him? you wouldnt go up to a couple and tell the woman she can do better than her boyfriend now, would you? Either way this discussion is settled + Show Spoiler + I probably shouldnt have bumped this, thought the post was only like 3 minutes ago ^^ | ||
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
On January 03 2011 10:55 Sqq wrote: Its a bit douche to do what Tasteless did, but what I cant figure out, even tho I've read it 3 times now, is what it actually added to the quality of the cast ? Did he just randomly blert that out ? It even said "what I didn't get to say in the TvT". So... he basically sat the whole cast to try and find a breathing room for him to humiliate this guy on air ? It added nothing of value to the cast whatsoever. It is a sick story, cause people should NOT be doing what this dude did. Screwing up is okay, but from what I understood it didn't seem like this fella apologized right away, which he should have done. Also, I'm surprised by all the people who think this dude did nothing wrong, reminds me of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. | ||
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Lotar
132 Posts
On January 04 2011 00:28 DDKz wrote:According to Day9 in Daily #100 Nick's casting career started when he went up to the organizers of a Starcraft event he was knocked out of and told them he could a better job than the guy casting so they gave him a mic and he was great. Probably a bit of exaggeration in that characterization but hmm, here's the vid for reference. On January 04 2011 01:25 Nivoh wrote:from what I understood it didn't seem like this fella apologized right away The fact is nobody except Tasteless and the random guy knows how it really happened, but it doesn't matter anyway because everybody apologized to everybody else and they are totally best bros now, case closed. | ||
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eu.xen
Germany352 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Tasteless: Yeah, uh... some people just don't know . . . what it's like to be a human. The way I interpreted that was 'everyone makes mistakes. the very idea of asking to take someone's entire job because he made a few mistakes is ridiculous'. I could very well be mistaken, that might not be what he meant at all, but at the end of the day it wouldn't surprise me. There is a very prevalent attitude within the SC2 community and gamers in general that mistakes are not to be tolerated under any circumstances and that even the most minor of errors is grounds for leering mockery and harsh, disproportionate criticism. I see it all the time, spectators taking dumps on people far more talented than themselves, which is very rarely justified, because they expect people to be perfect robots, not flawed humans. Again though, I could be entirely mistaken, that comment is vague and open to interpretation. I also think some people don't really understand what hypocrisy actually is. 'Oh, Nick got his job the same way, how dare he condemn this dude!'. Well no, by the sounds of it, Nick confidently presented a strong case, from a position of being at least known within the Starcraft community at the time, if not a superstar and won over the organisers. This guy failed to do that, by the sounds of it in a fairly major way and while I do feel sorry for the guy because he choked and made a fool of himself, that does not make Nick a hypocrite. That's not what it means at all. I've always thought that something which supposedly lands you in the 8th circle of hell, forced to wear heavy lead robes as you walk around the circumference of a large circle and to march across the crucified writhing body of Caiphas, probably isn't a word you should throw around lightly  | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On January 03 2011 05:19 CanucksJC wrote: While it's true that John's English isn't perfect, I think that he tries really hard to improve himself and do whatever he can to keep his job. It was WAY out of the line for this guy to march in there and ask for a job like that. Look, I'm not saying it's the way I would do things, but to say It's "WAY out of the line" -?? Oh c'mon, this same thing happens every single day all over the world and everyone seems fine with it. Have you ever applied for a position that was already held? Congratulations, you're no different. He was simply applying in an aggressive manner. Like I said, I'm not saying I agree with it, but people around here see apples to oranges when in reality, they're doing the same thing with no qualms. | ||
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SolidusR
United States217 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
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Twaxter
Canada190 Posts
 Like after reading that post and the reply, hopefully tasteless will address this, and help him. He never meant any harm and at the end he's left with nothing rite ? | ||
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Gudeldar
United States1200 Posts
On January 03 2011 23:42 KnightOfNi wrote: Tasteless proving once again that he has no taste in what is socially and professionally acceptable. Hell even artosis realized that it was FUCKING STUPID to say that on the air >.>... You should relax. Tasteless misinterpreted this guys offer as a slam against John and was being a loyal friend by defending him. Its not like he said the guys name or anything on air, maybe talking about it on the stream wasn't the greatest idea but its hard to fault him for sticking up for his friend. | ||
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couches
618 Posts
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On January 04 2011 00:28 DDKz wrote: This is exactly what came to mind when I first read the OP lol.. According to Day9 in Daily #100 Nick's casting career started when he went up to the organizers of a Starcraft event he was knocked out of and told them he could a better job than the guy casting so they gave him a mic and he was great. I guess it's easy to forget your roots.. sometimes you just need someone to give you a chance, and when they don't you need to go after it yourself which is what this guy did and in this particular case the result was being humiliated by an idol of his, I love Tasteless as much as the next guy but dick-move man.. dick-move. I'm not defending anyone here, but I would like to at least put some clarification on how Tasteless "began his career". I actually side with both parties because I do believe you should always GO FOR IT, but at the same time, there is always a right way and a wrong way. When Tasteless made that "request" it was back in 2004. Back then, most of the casters were from Quake, CS, UT2k4, etc. - and admittedly we didn't have much of a SC casting crew (but who did). In fact, I remember during that time that I really wanted to pick up some SC casters, as the only one I knew by name was Manifesto7 (who I spoke to on the phone a few times - but we never got much going due to timing). The point is, Tasteless took a huge risk when there wasn't anyone else helming the ship. Back then he had no experience (only his credibility), but he was up against a bunch of other people WHO ALSO HAD NO EXPERIENCE. Now a days things are a bit different. You do look at a guy like Nick who has several years of broadcasting under his belt, and his philosophy of "just go ask" doesn't work anymore. In this day and age you have to make a name for yourself and show the community the work you're willing to put into it. I think we've seen several people emerge as shining beacons of light because they busted their ass to make it happen. So while there may be some similarities between what Tasteless did and what this anonymous person did... timing is still a critical piece of the puzzle, and you cannot necessarily blame either person for how things transpired. | ||
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TURKISHRAMBO
Canada148 Posts
On January 04 2011 01:25 Nivoh wrote: It is a sick story, cause people should NOT be doing what this dude did. Screwing up is okay, but from what I understood it didn't seem like this fella apologized right away, which he should have done. Also, I'm surprised by all the people who think this dude did nothing wrong, reminds me of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. Don't be such a prick, the guys intention was to get a translating gig. He didnt want to completely replace John. He had good intention, but his nerves made him sound like he was being an asshole. When Tasteless replyed with anger(sort of), the guy felt really bad that tasteless took this so personally, and even made it public when it shouldve just stayed behind the scenes. It was a big misunderstanding, and the gentleman apologized hoping tasteless wouldn't think so bad of him anymore. He wanted to get it off his chest, clearly, because he sounds like a big fan of tasteless, like you and I. Again, its a big misunderstanding, and John has recognized this. This thread can be closed now. User was warned for this post | ||
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