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Kittenlisk
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia34 Posts
January 03 2011 10:08 GMT
#281
Apology accept at end of Code A Matches.
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l00l
Profile Joined August 2010
179 Posts
January 03 2011 10:08 GMT
#282
I THINK HE APOLOGIZED ON AIR... DID HE?
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:11:18
January 03 2011 10:09 GMT
#283
Thought that was very nice of him to acknowledge the guys post and say everything is okay. I think that really takes care of both parties and that they are both good people put into a bad situation.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
January 03 2011 10:10 GMT
#284
On January 03 2011 19:08 l00l wrote:
I THINK HE APOLOGIZED ON AIR... DID HE?



Yeah he basically said I heard "that guy" posted on the TL and that there are no bad feelings from him or John.

Very classy because he really didn't need to do that especially through a forum that is so public as a GomTV broadcast.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 10:10 GMT
#285
Didn't really feel he had to do that.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:14:26
January 03 2011 10:14 GMT
#286
this kid is fucking emo wow
he needs to not make a huge deal of every failure
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botlite
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1 Post
January 03 2011 10:14 GMT
#287
I think it's the right thing to do. Well played Tasteless and the other poster.
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jayt88
Profile Joined July 2010
Singapore97 Posts
January 03 2011 10:18 GMT
#288
On January 03 2011 18:53 SuperNothing wrote:
You guys need to stop being so hyper sensitive.

First of all, Tasteless did nothing wrong. He told a story about some guy openly offending a friend and a person that people are fans of in the community. Note, the most important thing here is, he DID NOT give this guys name or screen name. The guy was completely anonymous. If he did call the guy out directly, then I would think that was pretty low, but he didn't.

The only reason we know who this guy is, is because he, HIMSELF, said it was. Don't publicly apologize. No one knew it was you. You don't need to apologize to us. You just come off as a drama queen. Apologize to Tasteless and John in private. That is a real apology.

Also, no offense, but to all the people who are giving this guy props for saying he was sorry, I don't understand you. You don't get points for doing something you are supposed to do. Especially if you decide to give an attention seeking, long winded one over two forums.

You say that you were really nervous and what you said wasn't exactly what you meant. You sound socially awkward and not comfortable in front of people in high stress situations. You would probably be pretty bad at John's job.

Next time, I would recommend you go through the proper channels to apply for a job, or at least be a bit more polite and tactful.

Don't take any of this as an attack on you, just my opinion.


Well said, definitely agree with you. It was a totally anonymous rant by tasteless, no one would have known who it was other than the guy himself, but since he decided to make a post about it, now everyone knows his online identity.
What tasteless did was just to defend his friend and hope no insensitive people just randomly walks in and says he can do a better job. That randomguy might be able to but it's not for him to decide whether or not he can.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
January 03 2011 10:20 GMT
#289
On January 03 2011 19:10 SuperNothing wrote:
Didn't really feel he had to do that.



Agreed he didn't have to do that but I think that's what makes it so awesome that he did. Obviously that individual was very sincere in his apology and that's why it was so awesome that Tasteless responded in a public forum back to him.

Plus I really like that these two forums exist in the Starcraft community specifically for this to take place. It's a very special environment.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 10:21 GMT
#290
He kinda forced Tasteless to publicly accept the OP apology too, making a mountain out of a mole hill.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:23:30
January 03 2011 10:23 GMT
#291
everyone makes mistakes. rough....
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 03 2011 10:25 GMT
#292
On January 03 2011 19:21 SuperNothing wrote:
He kinda forced Tasteless to publicly accept the OP apology too, making a mountain out of a mole hill.

agreedddd 100%
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BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:29:10
January 03 2011 10:26 GMT
#293
On January 03 2011 19:18 jayt88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 18:53 SuperNothing wrote:
You guys need to stop being so hyper sensitive.

First of all, Tasteless did nothing wrong. He told a story about some guy openly offending a friend and a person that people are fans of in the community. Note, the most important thing here is, he DID NOT give this guys name or screen name. The guy was completely anonymous. If he did call the guy out directly, then I would think that was pretty low, but he didn't.

The only reason we know who this guy is, is because he, HIMSELF, said it was. Don't publicly apologize. No one knew it was you. You don't need to apologize to us. You just come off as a drama queen. Apologize to Tasteless and John in private. That is a real apology.

Also, no offense, but to all the people who are giving this guy props for saying he was sorry, I don't understand you. You don't get points for doing something you are supposed to do. Especially if you decide to give an attention seeking, long winded one over two forums.

You say that you were really nervous and what you said wasn't exactly what you meant. You sound socially awkward and not comfortable in front of people in high stress situations. You would probably be pretty bad at John's job.

Next time, I would recommend you go through the proper channels to apply for a job, or at least be a bit more polite and tactful.

Don't take any of this as an attack on you, just my opinion.


Well said, definitely agree with you. It was a totally anonymous rant by tasteless, no one would have known who it was other than the guy himself, but since he decided to make a post about it, now everyone knows his online identity.
What tasteless did was just to defend his friend and hope no insensitive people just randomly walks in and says he can do a better job. That randomguy might be able to but it's not for him to decide whether or not he can.



By the way both of you are wrong. Should I type now "just my opinion" to excuse attacking someone?

The person through out his post explained how wrong he was for doing what he did and just wanted to explain it and then apologize for it.



Wow that was really hard to read what you guys had posted.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 10:28 GMT
#294
I believe my points are very valid. It's all good if you disagree.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:37:18
January 03 2011 10:33 GMT
#295
On January 03 2011 19:28 SuperNothing wrote:
I believe my points are very valid. It's all good if you disagree.


But I don't disagree with the fact that he didn't have to apologize. Especially to a specific thread on teamliquid.net/gomtv.net

I also don't think that this will get bigger because he apologized. In fact I think this will quickly go away now that it's no longer a controversy.

So I would give credit to Tasteless for apologizing and maybe even for a good PR decision.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 10:36 GMT
#296
The point is, if the OP didn't make a public apology, it would be nothing. There was no reason for it, and in doing so, he added a new variable to the issue between him and Tasteless, which is community opinion. If he would have kept the issue to himself, and approached Tasteless in private to apologize, it would have been much more honest and sincere.
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
January 03 2011 10:36 GMT
#297
Wait, tasteless wasn't insulting the guy when he said "what it means to be human" at all. That clearly wasn't the intention when he said that. He obviously meant, and anyone who isn't specifically trying to scrutinize this will infer, that John makes mistakes because he's human, and everyone makes mistakes. He felt it wrong for someone to insult his friend when John does his absolute best to translate and has improved exponentially in that aspect. Hell I was one of the people who criticized him early on because I thought he was a professorial translator.

Anyone thinking Tasteless meant that this random guy was below human is obviously way off base.
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TSoM1959
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
January 03 2011 10:42 GMT
#298
On January 03 2011 19:28 SuperNothing wrote:
I believe my points are very valid. It's all good if you disagree.


I don't agree that publically apologizing would've been a better idea. I highly doubt Tasteless or John would have wanted to see him again and waste their time as they're preparing for the stream. He should've just made a shorter apology without all the self pity.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
January 03 2011 10:42 GMT
#299
On January 03 2011 19:36 SuperNothing wrote:
The point is, if the OP didn't make a public apology, it would be nothing. There was no reason for it, and in doing so, he added a new variable to the issue between him and Tasteless, which is community opinion. If he would have kept the issue to himself, and approached Tasteless in private to apologize, it would have been much more honest and sincere.


Your premise is wrong so far that it's nothing and there is no reason for the apology.

It is something or there is a reason for it once it was clear that what this individual had done insulted Tasteless and or John so far that Tasteless made a comment about it during a broadcast.

Secondly if you think it's easy for a random person to go up to Nick Plott and start a conversation go ahead and try it. If you find that hard maybe your next option would be to publicly apologize to the community that had seen what Tasteless had said about the incident.

I applaud both the person that SAW the reason for the apology and also for Tasteless who decided to respond in kind with his acknowledgement of the situation.
SuperNothing
Profile Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
January 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#300
Nah, a public apology is not a real apology. It turns the issue in a public relations thing, which is unfair to Tasteless, who did nothing wrong.

I think the OP could have gotten a hold of Tasteless in much the same way he did the first time, if he really needed to.

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